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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:10 PM
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http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7037768/site/newsweek/

Terror: A Tangled Web


He's accused of plotting to assassinate Bush. But even some Feds think the government won't win.

March 7 issue - The confession came quickly, and it sounded damning. After a few days of allegedly rough interrogation, Ahmed Omar Abu Ali—a soft-spoken high-school valedictorian from the Washington, D.C., suburbs—either cracked or simply told his questioners what they wanted to hear. While studying in the holy city of Medina, Saudi Arabia, Abu Ali said, he had met with a Qaeda operative and offered to set up a sleeper cell in the United States to organize terror attacks. He wanted to be like September 11 ringleader Muhammad Atta, Abu Ali added in his confession. The young Muslim American even talked about an assassination plot. The purported target: President George W. Bush. Abu Ali allegedly suggested that Bush could either be shot on the street or blown up in a car-bomb attack.

An open-and-shut case, you might think. The problem with this Perry Mason moment, however, is that it occurred in a Saudi Arabian prison, where no U.S. officials were present and where, according to human-rights groups, suspects are often physically abused. One of Abu Ali's lawyers, Edward MacMahon, said after the suspect's first court hearing last week that he personally saw "multiple scars" all over Abu Ali's back, looking "exactly like somebody who has been whipped." Prosecutors deny this, but even U.S. law-enforcement officials admit there is a good chance Abu Ali could eventually walk out of prison a free man. The indictment of Abu Ali shows how the administration's aggressive pursuit of the global war on terror is increasingly getting tangled up in legal constraints at home.

Government officials are acutely aware of these problems—which is one reason Abu Ali's nearly two-year-old criminal case remained unaddressed in U.S. courts until last week. NEWSWEEK has learned that his confession, which occurred shortly after his arrest in June 2003, was videotaped by the Saudis and immediately turned over to the FBI. The tape became the chief piece of evidence against him. But back in Washington, the case presented an agonizing dilemma for top Justice Department officials, sources said.

After searching his home in Falls Church, Va., and finding seemingly incriminating documents (including a screed by Osama bin Laden's deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri), federal agents became convinced that Abu Ali was indeed "a really bad guy," as one put it. Yet even the top aides to the then Attorney General John Ashcroft didn't think they had anything resembling a solid criminal case. There was no indication the alleged Bush assassination plot ever advanced beyond the talking phase. No FBI agents were there when Abu Ali made his self-incriminating confession. If the Saudis sent Abu Ali home—as they kept offering to do—Justice officials fretted the videotape would likely get tossed out of court, and Abu Ali would walk. "We didn't know what to do with this guy," one former Justice official confided to NEWSWEEK.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:14 PM
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:17 PM
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2. Thats what Ahmed Omar Abu Ali thought too n/t
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 09:10 PM
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9. Maybe not yet
so far they are only abducting people with foreign sounding names. That hasn't always been the case, we used to round up Japanese people and in the 60-70, our own gummit spied and used subterfuge to try and destroy the civil rights movement. Don't EVER take your liberty for granted!
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:21 PM
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3. Oh no, it could NEVER be me,
I'm WHITE, and I have a WHITE-sounding name. I never read anything strange. I am safe and secure. No problem.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:47 PM
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:52 PM
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5. How can you be so sure about that?
Who's to say we won't have a war with the Saudis?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:54 PM
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:57 PM
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7. Must be nice to know the future. .....n/t
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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 09:04 PM
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8. What if, say, you were sent there for "interrogation"?
You would probably have little say in the matter, and you would probably be caught dead in Saudi Arabia.
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