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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:20 PM
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If Romeo & Juliet was just written & up for an Oscar, it would be attacked
by the Right as being out of touch with our values and Godless. I am so sick of hearing how Hollywood is out of touch with American Values when the greatest works of all time are more racy and filled with content that is no different than what you see at the movies these days.

Can anyone name a few more great works that are filled with Adultery, suicide, murder etc. etc.? There are plenty!
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:21 PM
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1. a good chunk of Shakespere n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:23 PM
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2. Very true
And I wouldn't doubt it. All the kissing and violence. Can't have any of that. Plus Leo poisions himself and stuff. And Leo is known as a democrat so that wouldn't fly with them. :eyes:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:51 PM
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18. Most of the English Canon. Which is why Cromwell was beheaded.
He was boring. lol
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:24 PM
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3. A lot of Shakespeare's works...
The sa fact is, that if a director did a movie on the Bible (that was Biblically accurate), and showed some of the more graphic scenes, conservatives would have a fit. They're hypocrites, so there's no pleasing them.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 05:25 PM
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27. I had to turn off a "Biblical" movie one time a few years ago.
I was channel surfing and I think it was about Sodom and Gomorrah and made in the early sixties. They were torturing people by tying them to these large rotating wheels over a huge hot flame like a rotisserie, and someone was basting them with oil. It was so offensive I had to turn it off.

My dad said he thought he was going to get sick during the Passion.
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 05:34 PM
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28. In its proper context, graphic scenes can serve a purpose.
I liked the Passion, and I thought those graphic scenes helped toillustrate the suffering of Christ.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:24 PM
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4. The bible has lots of adultery, murder, beheading, genocide,
all kinds of neat stuff. Hell,it even has guys with complete harems.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:26 PM
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5. pay them no mind
they just jealous!

they can flog the godless (read: jewish) hollywood whipping boy all they want; you cannot stop the spectacle.

and i mean that in a situationist sense. if they can't take it, they should ignore it.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:27 PM
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6. As originally written Romeo and Juliet are about 13 years old.
Although it's never played by actors that young.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:32 PM
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9. 13 years was a big chunk of life expectancy
in the 17th Century. One might opine that they were approaching middle age.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:46 PM
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17. Actually, I believe the age was in one of the source stories.
Most people had to wait to get married because they couldn't afford it.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:36 PM
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11. Zeffirelli got close
His actors were 15 or 16. If you haven't seen it, it's beautiful production.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:28 PM
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7. If you want adultery and murder and stoning
and stories about man on man sex would you not turn to the old testament? Isn't that the document the christian conservatives say they don't rely on but turn to when they need to hate at least ten percent of the population? Yes, old Leviticus comes in handy when tossing around the abomination line, but how about stoning to death people who work on the sabbath? Seen any right wingers stoning sunday workers lately? Here's an easier question, seen any right wingers acting hypocritically lately?
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:31 PM
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8. Also, if Hollywood is "out of touch" with America then why do they...
like Hollywood films and culture so much?

It's all B.S from the right wing bigots!
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:36 PM
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10. The Right wingers are hypocrites! Their version of a good movie is
Passion of the Christ. That was one of the most violent, disgusting films I've ever seen. Yet, because it was about Jesus it was shown all around the country in churches.

I feel sorry for all the right winged children that were forced to watch it. Regardless of who is getting tortured and murdered, children should not have to be exposed to that crap!
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:38 PM
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13. I didn't see "The Passion", but...
It sounds horrendous!
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:02 PM
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20. It was. It was literally two hours of graphic violence of Jesus being
tortured and then hung on the cross. That's the complete bloody plot. No inspirational talks from Jesus, no detail into what he had accomplished before being murdered. Just one extremely long torturous account of Jesus being mutilatied and murdered.

I thought there was really no point to it. I would have been less queasy watching Amityville Horror or Halloween 3 or some other Rated R scary movie.
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:37 PM
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12. 17th century Puritans are back. They had theaters closed then...
Now they have the FCC fines, FAUX news, RW hate radio and slanted rags to 'convince' the people of the immorality of theater.

Oh ya, and don't forget about SpongeBob raids. :crazy:
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:38 PM
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14. Aeschylus, Sophocles & Euripides....
The surviving Greek tragedies are some of the world's greatest literature. But the tales recounted are pretty dark.

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:40 PM
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15. Henry Miller was one of our great writers and many of his books
were censored for years, now one can find them at most any book store or library. Perhaps the right wing nuts have just forgotten what a good dirty book indeed is? Such as the "Tropic of Cancer"
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:44 PM
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16. "The Pearl" which was abandoned for years can be bought at
Barns & Noble. Truly classic porn at its best.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:55 PM
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19. Those Victorians wrote some of the kinkiest porn imaginable...
The Pearl is wonderful...also My Secret Life and Frank Harris' My Life and Loves.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:25 PM
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21. I've been reading on it for 45 + years, and now that I getting
up there in age, I'm wondering what to do with the copy. I mean when I croak, no one will find a bible, but on the other hand I don't think I want folks to find "The Pearl" LOL!! Indeed what difference does it make?

Think I'll put the local Midland Texas library seal on it! Perhaps it could find a shelve life there, eh?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:46 PM
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23. LOL! I wouldn't mind if I were you.
Of course, I live in Manhattan, and my office is just a few blocks from the respected Museum of Sex (yep, we really have one), so I guess I don't understand what Midland TX can be like.

http://www.museumofsex.com/
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 05:10 PM
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24. I lived in NYC on 34th & 6th Ave for many years and I do wish
I never left. I'll take Manhattan any day over Midland Texas.

BTW, thanks for the link. How long has this museum been up? I certainly don't recall it being there in my days.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 05:15 PM
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25. Just opened a couple of years ago. Pretty cool, eh? NT
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 05:19 PM
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26. It rocks! Guess I have to make a trip back to the city I love.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:39 PM
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22. Canterbury Tales
Not much murder and suicide, but adultery and fornications a-plenty!
some thievery, crooked clergy, scatalogical references...

Unfortunately, it's written in Old English, so 99% of the Congress-critters and 100% of the RW fundies wouldn't understand it.
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