Anti-war protestors, get a load of this....

[Postman]

from the Free Republic website...

Join Operation Infinite FReep / Rally for America! Free Republic has been rallying in support of our President and the war effort since shortly after the terrorist attack on America on September 11, 2001. Last year, as the inevitable war against Iraq drew closer, more and more of the "useful idiots" of the left began crawling out of the woodwork, organizing so-called "anti-war" protests. FReepers are working to ensure that these communist organized (A.N.S.W.E.R.) demonstrations do not go unanswered. Patriotic Americans are countering these misguided terrorist supporting leftists wherever and whenever they show up. Form a group, grab your signs, unfurl the flag, and prepare to support your country!


.....I just wonder if these numbskulls understand that if it weren't for "communist" Russia Hitler would have controlled Europe.

......It's interesting how they have to use propaganda to keep ignorant people allied to their cause whereas the liberal progressives just use common sense and rightousness

[ixion]

1. the US has by and large become anti-common sense, illogical

and just plain ignorant (or maybe it's always been that way).

When confronted with the truth, most of these people will offer a knee jerk reaction and stick to the 'official' story, as though the Bush maladministration were a paragon of truth.

Here is a great example of logic, science and common sense:

http://www.serendipity.li/wot/holmgren01.htm

[Brucey]

2. It's astonishing how deep in the forest without a compass

these idiots are. Brainwashed? Genetic mutants? Whatever. Blind patriotism is pathetic.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

5. It's not patriotism, it's Nationalism

which is very, very scary to this patriotic American!

Nationalism is the exclusive, my-country-right-or-wrong bullshit. The freeps demonstrate the worst strain of this psychosis.

[rucky]

3. Bring Em On!

the more the merrier. I'm sure that whatever they may lack in numbers, they'll make up for in entertainment value.

:yourock:

[Zuni]

26. FReeper rallies are fun to watch on C-Span

They are a riot! I make a snack, pull up a chair and enjoy myself. It is too ridiculous. I love when they bring out the Second Amendment Sisters, have women dress up as Monica, and they still have anti-Clinton posters!
I do not take them seriously, and i always have a good time watching.

[Cheswick2.0]

4. wooo hooooo, a handful of weirdos and a MORAN sign

bring em on

[Plaid Adder]

6. I've been on two ANSWER national marches and seen the counterprotests.

I'm not scared.

Incidentally, it is not totally insane to refer to ANSWER as communist-influenced, although "organized" is overblowing it. There has been plenty of dissection of ANSWER's makeup, pedigree, leadership and genealogy in the papers lately, and certainly their own rhetoric is heavily Marxist-flavored. This is probably one of the reasons the marches haven't been yet even bigger than they were. An ANSWER rally is generally an exercise in patience and perspective; the cool thing is standing around in the crowd looking at all the people who came out.

The next rally is being co-organized by United for Peace and Justice, a more mainstream and NY-based organization that, from what I can tell, puts on a much better party. So hopefully it'll get more people. I'm goin', one way or another, and I guaran-damn-tee the presence will dwarf and crush any counterdemonstration FR can mount.

Why? Because if you weren't a lazy, entitled-feeling, world-owes-me-a-Porsche, why-should-I-experience-discomfort-just-to-help-others sonofabitch, why would you be part of Free Republic?

C ya,

The Plaid Adder

[Postman]

14. I understand that they are "communist influenced", what is more ....

Its okay with me that they are. That doesn't mean that I'm a communist. We just have a similar objective. To overthrow fascism.

[AntiCoup2K4]

22. Freepers don't drive Porsches!

Why in the goddamn hell would you drive a furriner car like that when God created perfectly good 'Murkan gas guzzlin SUV's??

[Zuni]

27. The less extreme groups

are better for me. I feel a little weird listening to hard core stalinists at rallies organized by Ramsey Clark (the war criminal's best friend).
These rallies are essentially preaching to the choir of the hard left. What are needed are mainstream groups that can influence the average people.

[jonnyblitz]

31. I have hung out in ANSWER"s NYC office, helped with their

"Queers for Peace and Justice" float for NYC Pride, and attended a planning session for a weekend with them in NYC last May. They aren't as horrifying as you DEMS make them out to be!! Lots of them have become good friends of mine and I doubt they are gonna take over the country anytime soon so you can all relax!! Capitalism is still safe for you!! I am glad SOMEBODY is out there organizing buses and events!! After all,you can always sneak off when they start making those pesky speechs about Palestine and Mumia and grab yourselves a latte somewhere until they are finished!!
Peace! :hi:

Oh yeah UFPJ has "marxist" (GASP) ties too!!

[T Roosevelt]

7. Here, this might help...

from tolerance.org (symbols are various hate groups)

[Mari333]

11. CRIPES!! Michigan is loaded with weirdos!!

WELL this creeps me out to know these people are 35 minutes away from where I live

http://www.natallmi.com/news-events.html

and this is even creepier
http://www.natallmi.com/who-is.html

YIKES!!!!

[bif]

29. Just head north of Bay City

Plenty of nutsos up there. And wasn't McVeigh from Michigan?

[CrownPrinceBandar]

33. Did you notice

that three of the four people pictured don't even live in Michigan. That's quite a resume for that group.

[bif]

34. As I was just saying

about nuts up north in MI:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=118&topic_id=9332

Check out this thread.

[Iris]

24. This deserves its own thread

[CrownPrinceBandar]

32. Looks like Hawaii is the place. See you there?

[helleborient]

8. Just a question relating to this...

Since going to Dean Meetups and talking about his candidacy...I have encountered multiple people who have said they put away their American flags after 9/11 or after the invasion of Iraq.

Why do we give up symbols like this so easily?

At my house, we seriously considered putting an American flag and an anti-war sign both in our yard. Unfortunately, we didn't, but we didn't put anything away either or try to disavow connection with our country.

Regardless of Iraq and 9/11, I am still proud of a great deal of our history and our people...the right-wing insanity has not erased the presidency of Franklin Roosevelt or the legacy of Abraham Lincoln, etc.

Howard Dean's statements that he will work to take back the American flag as a symbol for the entire country is quite powerful to me...

[BiggJawn]

12. I put my Stars and Stripes away...

And broke out the Gadsden Flag instead.
It will fly until these usurpers have been driven from office.

[helleborient]

16. But why did you give it up to them?

We're only truly Americans or truly people to be identified with the U.S. when Democrats are in office? Do those who oppose Tony Blair disavow being British? Do conservative Canadians disavow being Canadian because they have a liberal government?

Am I way off base here?

[BiggJawn]

19. I didn't give up NOTHING.

By not displaying it, I didn't "give it up", I've "taken it from them".

In my mind, the Stars and Stripes have been co-opted by a gang of thugs who are using it as their banner of World Domination. In the World's eyes, the Stars and Stripes have come to stand for Death and Tyranny,and the American Imperial Empire, and I do-not stand for that.

The Gadsden Flag stands for Patriotism and the fight AGAINST Tyrrany, and that's what I stand with. I still own one, I didn't burn it. It's stored away against the day when it becomes again the flag of Hope and Freedom. I will display it again when, as I said, this bunch who have co-opted MY flag for THEIR evil purposes have been deposed.

Does Blair wrap himself in the Union Jack? Do ne-con Cannucks wrap themselves in the Maple Leaf? Does Bush wrap himself in the Stars and Stripes? Like a fucking Burrito he does.
There's the reason why.

[GiovanniC]

28. Rather Than Not Fly the Flag

Fly it upside-down.

Some idiots think it's an insult to the flag (a la the upside-down cross), but it's a distress signal. For those who understand the meaning of the upside-down flag, I think it sends a powerful message.

[Kamika]

9. This will be fun

I remember a book signing by Hillary where this lonesome freeper and his daughter stood for hours in a devil suit ALONE protesting.. not a soul cared

[ComerPerro]

10. Don't you get it?

These people see us as the enemy. We are just as bad as the terrorists, as far as they are concerned.

[BiggJawn]

13. Yeah, i get it. Do I care?

Not really.
As long as they can only muster 10-15 people to counter our 5,000, does it really matter what they think of us?

I hope they haven't forgotten that they're not the only ones who own firearms.

[DrFunkenstein]

15. They've Seen Through My Facade of Liberal Humanism

And cut to the core of my love for the totalitarian way of life! Its true - autocracy is just more fun. And it would be easier if we could just appoint a panel of people to decide who are President is.

But although I love a tyranny as much as the next pinko, there's just something so appealling about stateless terrorism. Is it the great clothes or the air of mystery? Who knows? Who cares!?!

Now if I could just find a way of putting Bill Clinton at the head of a fundamentalist regime in the White House - well, that would just make my whole weekend.

[Zuni]

30. That is honestly what FReepers

think is the Democratic agenda. They think the goal is to weasel a Clinton in the White House and then turn the US into a stalinist People's Republic. They really believe that.

[Q]

17. I usually don't give a shit about FReeper posts...

...but this time I'm compelled to remind the FReeper in question that if WE don't have the right to protest unimpeded then neither should they. That's how free speech works. Yet...you're trying to shout these people down so they can't be heard.

- You would whine like a baby if these tactics werew used against your small group of anti-Constitution thugs and wannabe fascists. Where did you ever get the idea that you have more of a right to speak out than your opposition?

- The FReeper author refers to the rallies being sponsored by 'commies' and implies that this gives them less credibility. But seldom if ever do you mention that hundreds of thousands of 'non-commie' citizens around the world showed up to protest against the BUSH* ADMINISTRATION...not the flag or the Constitution or the military. They were marching against Bush* government policies. Perfectly legal, Constutional and all American.

- For decades we've heard your sillyass 'commie under every bed' argument as a rationale for your obsessive hatreds and bigotry. I can only assume this tactic is used in absense of any kind of rational argument. All you can do is attack the messenger and try to keep your fellow citizens distracted from the truth. But that won't be enough. GWB* is not only insane...he thinks war makes him a dictator and gives him a right to cancel the Bill of Rights or break any law. Bush* is the embodiment of the fascist state.

- No one can be free unless everyone is free. Same goes for 'Freedom of Speech'.

[Isome]

18. Oh' Joy!

When they put out the call to "counterprotest" a whole handful of them might show up. At the D.C. protest in Feb., there had to be at least four of them standing on a balcony with a banner that read "hippies go home". They're real hardcore those freepers!

[tokenlib]

20. How many will they gather on Oct 25th???

After such a dry spell for large mobilizations--next month should be real interesting.

[LynneSin]

21. Yeah, here was the big crowd from last year Freeper Rally in DC

It was hilarious when the Iraqi's invaded it!




BTW, I had a post rally party in my hotel room that had more attendees than at that Freeper rally

of course, this is the "small" turnout on the same day in DC

[rman]

23. so, have a Neocon organiszed (Clearchannel) pro war demonstration,

and see how many participants show up.

[Zuni]

25. If it weren't for the Nazi-Soviet pact in 1939

Hitler never would have invaded Poland. The USSR also invaded Poland, 2 weeks later. In the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact of 1939, they divided up Eastern Europe, and Stalin agreed to send the Nazis trainloads of raw materials and oil. In fact, before June 22, 1941 The USSR was Hitler's main foreign supplier of raw materials.

The USSR helped Hitler, and then after Stalin was warned repeatedly by both the British and US that Hitler was preparing to invade, Stalin refused to believe it.