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blairs Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 07:23 AM
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"We've forgotten 9/11 too early"
Has anyone noticed that Fox yakking heads (including the hideous Dick Morris just now) can't repeat enough how Americans have gotten over 9/11 just TOO DAMNED SOON?

God forbid Americans actually have a look at what the Bushites are doing right now, in the U.S.. "Focus your anger and attention abroad, focus abroad..."

Dirtbags they were, dirtbags they remain.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 07:26 AM
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1. Yeah, they want the shrub's poll numbers back up...
I'm sure. Disgusting! I can't stand much more of these ugly white men.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 07:30 AM
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2. It's basic human nature..............
to push unpleasant, traumatic experiences to the farther recesses of our minds. I'm sure the Bush administration, and of course their loyal propaganda machine FOX, will try their utmost not to let this occur. We will all remember what happened on 9/11/02, but to let it consume us is a one way ticket to depression and psychosis.
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Spoon Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 07:57 AM
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7. Your being sarcastic, right?
The date would be 9/11/01.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 04:37 AM
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28. It's just a typo
DumpGump is sincere.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 07:40 AM
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3. I agree with them on this
The American public should not be forgetting and should be asking the hard questions about 9/11 and holding our government responsible for its lack of action before, during and after that day.
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 08:45 PM
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16. You know the stages of grief....
1) Denial
2) Anger
3) Bargaining
4) Depression
5) Acceptance

Looks like we are now in the "anger" stage and out of the "denial" stage. Too bad for Dubya.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 07:41 AM
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4. 9/11 lost its meaning
It is ludicrous to grief over the 2,792 innocent lives lost at the WTC when the United States has slaughtered anywhere between five to seven innocent men, women, and children for each WTC victim.

And the Iraq bodycount goes on!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 08:46 AM
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9. Actually I think 9/11 has lost it's meaning because of the shameful
politicization of it by Bush. He uses it repeatedly to sell everything from tax cuts to oil drilling. Of course it's going to lose it's meaning when you cheapen it like that and repeat it over and over and over...
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MotorCityMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 09:09 PM
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19. Also, the complete LACK of answers
I cannot believe that there are not more, regardless of party, SCREAMING for answers on how this happened to the most powerful country on the planet. No real investigation, no answers, and above all NO BLAME.

Of course it has been discussed alot on this board and most here are aware of the unanswered questions. I think most realize that there are no answers because * and his Dick would be drawn and quartered if the public new their complete failure that day.

I really think the majority of people are incapable of believing that our leaders are capable of such evil acts against their own citizens, even with all evidence to the contrary.

We need more people asking questions like the two widows on Hardball last night. That they were allowed a forum to bash our Sainted Leader on His Own Holy Day amazed me. They were articulate, well prepared, and VERY angry (which really came across). At the end, when she said that they were NOT going away, I applauded her, while thinking that she better watch her back and stay out of small planes.
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FubarFly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 07:47 AM
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5. How dare you not support our fuhr- er empero- er president.
How dare you! 9/11 was supposed to turn you into scared, blindly loyal sheep forever- or at least until 2004. Do you really want another 9/11?
The first one was hard enough to pull off- er - it was Clinton's fault.


:puke:
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 07:50 AM
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6. Code for "I want some NEW 9-11 stuff to buy!"
"I've bought all the plates and the teddy bears dressed like firefighters, and the fiber-optic angel with the wings that light up "FDNY" and the resin "sculpture" of Bush holding a teddy bear dressd like a running stockbroker praying with the angel standing behind him, and there's no NEW stuff to buy. I think it's disgusting that people, especially the capitamondi makers, have forgotten so soon...Hell, how can I follw the Presidental Mandatse to 'go shopping' if there's nothing to buy?"

Don't people start looking at you funny if you're still acrtively grieving a SPOUSE after a year or so?
How many out there still beat their breasts and tear their sleeves over Pearl Harbour? Or maybe we should "re-package it" and call it "12-7 Day"?

Life goes on. that's one of the beauties of the Human Experience. Never forget, but don't let it consume your life, either.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 08:45 AM
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8. Apparently this is the disgraceful new spin
It's unbeleivably disgusting if you ask me. It's like they're purposely trying to rip open a healed wound for their political benefit. Once again, like with Wellstone, they're telling people the proper way to grieve...Absolutely disgusting...
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 11:47 AM
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10. Hi blairs!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:



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blairs Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 08:30 PM
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14. Re: "Hi blairs!"
Thanks, newyawker99. It's nice to be here with Americans who share a lot of the same attitudes as this Canadian.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 11:49 AM
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11. on local talk radio NEal Boortz show
A man called to complain that people were not keeping enough hate and anger in their hearts. He was "sick of all this counseling stuff." Then he went on to say that you can never really get over something like this - bet he has a GREAT life.

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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 11:56 AM
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12. A little difference between Pearl Harbor and 9/11
At Pearl Harbor, the world's 3rd largest navy attacked us, smashed our battle line, and left our entire west coast wide open...they then proceeded to capture Wake, Guam, Phillipines, Hong Kong, Malaya, Indonesia, Singapore, Thailand, and most of Burma, while we and our allies could do nothing because we had nothing to do it with.

At 9/11, a group of men launched a desperation attack, killing 3000. Our infrastructure and military were intact. There was no threat of invasion. No continues stream of bad news from our frontiers. And no further threat until they can set up another desperation attack.

The only thing similar between 9/11 and December 7 is the number of dead.

(from a later thread that got locked)

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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:04 PM
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13. That's What They Told Us To Do, Right?
I thought their hero was the one who told Americans to just go on with their lives. The implication was that they would take care of the hard work, and we shouldn't dwell on it.

Well, now that we're not dwelling on it, we're supposed to have dwelled on it???
The Professor
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 08:44 PM
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15. This is just my opinion
I find the whole 911 memorial on every channel, for hours on end..embarrassing for our country. Look at Ireland and the UK. For YEARS they have had to deal with terrorists. They don't make a spectacular event out of the tragedies every year. 911 will forever be etched on our minds we don't need endless reminders. I think the families of the victims should do their memorials and the rest left to individual citizens to deal with in their own way. I found the entire day distasteful and embarrassing. Why do kids have to have a 911 program in school? It's unneccessary. JMO
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Valerie5555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 01:40 AM
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24. And don't you pity those with Sept 11 b - days
that must REALLY suck by the way.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 08:48 PM
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17. * sure did get over it
forgot itt happened 2 years ago. "2 and a half years ago....er....2 years ago......" (speech today).
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 08:57 PM
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18. Funny, the Bush administration got over it within a week.
Nice how they didn't bother to try in Afghanistan, since the "real war" was the next one.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 09:13 PM
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20. Don't think clearly.
Don't ever think clearly.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 09:41 PM
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Resistance Is Futile Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 10:10 PM
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22. Great idea
When does the bombing of Riyad start?
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 10:25 PM
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23. Unfortunately, we are reminded once a week
with a lame arse justification for tax cuts, drilling oil in national parks, and declaring war on countries that had nothing to do with 9/11...
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 04:05 AM
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25. I got some laughs around the office
...doing a 911 zombie routine where I walk around the office stiffly like a Frankenstein monster with my arms extended and my eyes closed chanting "911, 911, war on terror, war on Iraq, 911, 911, eighty seven billion dollars, 911,..."
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 04:35 AM
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26. Did anyone remember the world?
I mean besides SZJ and that wonderful post reminding us all of how much the world rallied around us that day. I don't remember any reports about it at all. I also didn't see any reference to the fact that people from all over the world died. We are so self-involved. I can't imagine how other countries must have felt and still had the good grace to allow it to pass by.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 04:37 AM
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27. Too soon = Before the 2004 election
Maybe Americans didn't forget, they just got sick of it being exploited by Fox, Bush, and their friends on the far right.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 04:56 AM
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29. Hate Week was really fun this year.
Rumsfeld's "never forget" statement summed it all up for me.

Bush's approval ratings are slipping fast, and the public isn't "responding" to the "How Fucking Scared Should I Be Today?" color-coded chart anymore, or the countless mentions of the word "terrorism" or "9-11".

They need to keep the public scared to have support, but they've pressed their free Public Support button too many times, and now it's worn out.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 05:08 AM
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30. Fox is selling the American people short
Edited on Sat Sep-13-03 05:10 AM by dmr
People mourn in their own way while they go on with their daily lives.

Is Fox (and the Bush* cabal) worried about the American people slowly falling out of lock-step with their nationalism?

Would they voice this concern if Bush* wasn't in a fight for a second term?

Would they be concerned if the polls weren't unfavorable to Bush*?

Would they be concerned if Bush* wasn't looking for nearly 90 billion dollars, and more?

Would they be so concerned if Americans weren't slowly waking up in a nightmare?

I'll never forget 911. It is a personal and painful memory. It is in the same painful category as the 60's assassinations, Viet Nam and Coup 2000. When SCOTUS gave Bush* the presidency in 2000, I became a basket case, and it brought back the past pain, especially that of Nam. Americans don't want to live their lives wringing their hands and walking in fear, so we move on with daily living.

But for Fox to suggest we have gotten over 911 too soon and to focus our anger abroad has nothing to do with the lost lives or destruction of 911, it has everything to do with politics. It's about bulling Americans into guilt. So I say, they can all go to hell, stay there and rot.

Edit: wrong verb
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