"The Paranoia Show" - unsettling stills from upcoming/upsetting film

[thebigidea]

figure 356345. curious king puppetboy george scampers playfully before throwing own excrement at american people.



figure 33453454. yours truly as rumsferatu.



figure 2395723957. accomplice attempts cheney.



figure 439539375. I remain frightened after 12 hours watching/directing people in limbo room wearing strange getup. david lynchian noise in background does little to soothe.

coming to a disreputable film festival near YOU! Or just occasionallllly appearing in your nightmares:

[thebigidea]

1. why not start your morning right?

by being revolted by Paul Wolfowitz?

[thebigidea]

2. you know...

that's really far too upbeat for Cheney.

There's a new mold in the works that should replace that assembly-line smile with a truly hideous SNARL to befit The Dick.

[thebigidea]

3. scarier still...

[venmax]

4. What is this crap?

Why do opponents of Bush try to increasingly rely on "Shock" tactics. It reminds me of one of the current trends at anti-war protests nowadays - induced vomiting.

WTF???

Back in the 60's people had a GOOD TIME. They smoked weed, played guitar, and partied while giving the far right the finger at the same time. Nowadays its all about how disgusting you can be - bullshit.

"But if you go carryin' pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow".

Remember when it used to feel GOOD to be a Liberal - pictures like this make me hate the far left as much as I hate the far right.

[thebigidea]

5. hee hee

responses like the above makes it a rather good time for me. Thanks!

ironically: "They smoked weed, played guitar, and partied while giving the far right the finger at the same time." was the fuel for:

http://www.terminalproduct.com/noisespew.html

you're welcome to feel good about Rumsfeld in the meantime.

I'll be trying to put him in a sitcom complete with laugh track to pass the time.

NEW FROM GALOOB: shock-less middle finger... give the right a jolting finger without offending tender, Devo-hair sensibilities... comes with free e-z acoustic strum and mournful harmony!

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[thebigidea]

7. heh heh

"Just so you know I'm independent. So carrying that forward..."

likewise, dearie.

"You patently admit you get off on peoples displeasure. Heh!!"

of course! Noise music isn't very listener-friendly unless you get a respectful German crowd sitting ramrod straight in their seats. If you're not being paid, a fun audience makes it worth doing. Shrug.

"Your gonna help the Dems win a lot of votes that way Jerk Whiz."

I don't work for campaigns, I try and capture this goofy world through a cracked mirror for my own amusement. Thanks for significantly adding to my snickering.

[venmax]

9. Maybe I'm too new to these boards..

Ok so you're NOT a democrat. You're just some one who likes posting posting retarded pictures on the internet. Still it proves my point.

It used to feel GOOD to be a liberal. Nowadays the classification has been taken over by people who love to HATE. They don't give a crap about the party, they don't give a crap about the country. All they care about is proving to the rest of the world just how much they HATE the right wing.

Sad.

And it DIVIDES voters. It does not UNITE them. :(

[thebigidea]

11. hee hee

as opposed to your stirring call for unification, comrade?

Gotta love self-designated Overseers of Everything(tm)

"Still it proves my point."

and mine: button pushed, laugh extracted. Please drive through.

(wistful voice) - but yes, I remember those feelgood liberal days, when there used to be concerts in the park... oh yes, and flowers were crammed into each ear, why - every orifice was rank with the fume of some foliage - it was peaceful and everyone smiled, even though the Vietnam stuff kinda interfered with comfortable TV watching...

and we all got along, and we all refrained from getting upset, and heavens - we never put on Nixon masks and did terrible impersonations....

ahhh, I remember it all so clearly...

[Occulus]

8. Actually,

art has long been a medium for 'shocking' political dissent. Look at Guernica, for example- the more you look at it, the more disturbed you become.

I'm also thinking of the new Holocaust museum in Germany. By all accounts, it's a very disturbing place, without the documents and photos.

We're not having a "good time" with dissent today because we can't. We're forbidden from it. Think about the "first amendment zones". We're angry, the anger is raw, and there's no room in it for anything but dark humor. It is, sadly, a sign of the times.

I'm only 28; I can't speak for what happened in the 1960s. One difference, however, I *do* see clearly.... the media aren't covering us this time around. There's too much money being given to the media by the entities we're dissenting against. That puts it in their financial best interest to not report on us, or under-report the numbers if the protest is too big to ignore.

It will only get uglier. The more we are ignored, the more visceral our protests will become. That is only a matter of time. Eventually, after being ignored long enough... it'll all boil over, and I guarantee you if things continue as they are, it will be a bloody time indeed.

Just my $.02.

[venmax]

10. kgfnally wrote:

"I *do* see clearly.... the media aren't covering us this time around. "

Bullshit. There is more access to independent media nowadays than there was back then - this website is a prime example.

People have MOVED to the right because of the repulsive sorts of wackos that I'm talking about. They keep divisive issues at the forefront, at the expense of the issues that unite the country as a whole. That's what's been killing the Democratic Party over our lifetimes.

[thebigidea]

12. Howard Johnson is right!

Those Dadaists really killed the Democratic Party, didn't they?

And man, that Andy Warhol... geez, if only he stepped away from the silkscreen, Nixon never would've gotten elected.

[not systems]

22. People have MOVED to the right

Like you instance?

The way you take it personal one would guess you
had never seen any art made in the last century.

I guess you only like things that "feel good" like
smoking a J or sing a little song well struming a
guitar.

This image that it felt good to be a "liberal" in the
vietnam era is revisionist crap. Sure people tried to
excape the brutal truth but not many people people who
really cared had that much fun. And the fun that people
did have didn't win any points with the "normal" people
who roboted through life with their happy TV lifes.

Get a clue.

[thebigidea]

13. let the viscous visceral cultural goo flow!

a cultural implosion would be nice right about now.

can anyone point me to the vortex? would it involve painting clowns on velvet or admiring portraits of William Bennett?

[venmax]

14. Keep Ducking.

Sad and Sorry dude. Keep Ducking.

[thebigidea]

15. ducking and covering since 2000...

after this argument, we gotta form a band and start arguing on stage about what rhymes with "Cheney"

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[thebigidea]

18. oh, one thing...

what exactly was shocking or upsetting, anyway?

a mask of Rumsfeld? the idea of Rumsfeld as a mask? is Halloween somehow working against the Democrats?

curious to see what triggered the huffin' and puffin'.

as an example:



the shock element is what? placing Bush next to the result of his policies? Pointing out collateral damage? Hasty photoshoping and tacky color scheme? is the art more shocking than the dead children? If so, please describe. Use a number 2 pencil. Make your marks heavy and dark.

[not systems]

25. It is an eraserhead quote.

It is from a movie about your life.

[uhhuh]

33. HMMM

Thinks shock value in a message is ridiculous, but idolizes Iron Maiden? I remeber the furor over the album covers from what you consider their best years.

Also writes songs of thanks to the British for their involvement in an illegal war, and machines that kill are "really cool".

Your affinity for the peace movement of the Sixties moves me...truly.

[venmax]

37. DUDE!!! YOU MISSED KING DIAMOND!!!

Shock is irrelavent....If you are a good musician.

Cases in point...

KING DIAMOND - brilliant, even if shocking.

MADONNA AND BRITANNY SPEARS - crap, and shocking to boot!!

[Melinda]

17. I always feelthinkfeelthinkfeel when you create.

Thank you. :)

[binaryline]

19. These are beautiful/amazing...

are they yours (did you create them, I mean ;-))?

[thebigidea]

20. entirely without the use of taste, decorum, or common sense

which is why I occupy the deepest circle of obscurity and sell more blood than art.

I guess the laid back guy is right. Where the heck did I put my banjo and collection of non-threatening folk lyrics?

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[disgruntella]

24. oh gee

You mean you're not a liberal? Let ME alert the media!

The art isn't particularly my taste, yet somehow I managed to restrain myself from insulting the artist.

[venmax]

26. Excuse me but I WILL....

I want the Democratic Party to Re-Emerge. And if dumbass "Art" like that rears its ugly head I will speak up - it's my right just as much as it is his to make it.

Sorry, but guys like that want to prove to the world just how much they HATE the right wing MORE than they want acheive progress. They are selfish and shortsighted to say the least. And they are EXACTLY what's preventing the Democratic party from moving forward.

[thebigidea]

28. a purge! a purge!

I need to be exiled! Silenced! Locked up in a first ammendment zone... though please make sure I get enough coffee to survive, please.

progress, huh? I know this guy that talks a lot about that.

[Melinda]

34. venmax, chill out - aren't you an artist too?

thebigidea shares his art here, his music here; he expresses himself, here.

You write music venmax - your art.

And thebigidea is also a musician.

Allow him the courtesy of the canvas, look more closely and HEAR what he is writing up there... look again. LISTEN. Try. try.

[disgruntella]

35. no, not "try, try"

it's "troll, troll" ;)

[venmax]

39. No it's not art...

it's POLITICAL SATIRE. What I do is Art. All these stupid pictures are the equivalent of a political cartoon. If you want to debate the ARTISTIC MERITS of my music fine -

- I'm debating the finer points of the message put forth in these pictures...

I mean seriously.. Whats he dicking around for?? Lol!! If he wants to shock just go to rotten.com and copy some of those images...

Look - if you can't see that this sort of Political Satire only HURTS the democratic party I'm sorry. That's my take on it. :)

[disgruntella]

41. political satire only hurts the democratic party

I guess that's why Al Franken's book is a #1 bestseller?

[venmax]

48. No one said Political Staire doesn't sell.

But that which sells doesn't always win elections. He sold a buch of copies of "RUSH LIMBAUGH IS A BIG FAT IDIOT". You guys have been "Holding Your Breath" since 2000. 2002 came along and the Democrats LOST GROUND. Yer' turnin' a little blue there...

[thebigidea]

47. I love your take on it...

and yeah, its awfully presumptious to call yourself an artist. I'd never do that, reeks of high grade pretension. Other people can, but I'll stick with "That Guy" or "Hey You" as a title.

"If you want to debate the ARTISTIC MERITS of my music fine - "

could you debate the artistic merits of my music? I'd love to hear your reaction to my atrocious voice and guitar work...

click on noise at the link below, put on headphones, make the remarks quotable. You're doin' great so far.

[venmax]

50. LOL!!! You dope!!

You didn't even listen to my songs. There are NO VOCALS on them...

ROFL.... go back to your nasty little pictures.... Hehe...

[thebigidea]

58. oh, I did!

its playing in the background, adds a weird counterpoint to the thread.

You should try mine, it'll really getcha spittin'.

[Melinda]

53. He has been sharing with us at DU for quite some time -- if THIS

upsets you, you are gonna love symbolman. :evilgrin:

venmax, you are new here, ignorant, and unable to appreciate the forest of thebigidea's mind for these few trees. Just wait till you get to experience some of his musical expressions. ;)

[venmax]

56. AH!!! A Dean Man!!!!

Honestly I think a DEAN/CLARK ticket is the future of the Democratic Party.

[thebigidea]

61. uh oh...

man, would you meltdown if I told you I thought that ticket looks good too?

Or would you instead go into a tirade about how I'm not helping Dean by getting friends to put on masks and mime to tapes of press conferences in front of hot lights and bored interns?

[thebigidea]

27. you know...

I'm still confused about this whole "liberal/voting" thing you're going on about... I'm not a spokesman for anything but insomnia... if you want a positive message, turn on Pat Robertson. Or try Tony Roberts, apparently he's really upbeat.

"Enjoy your downward spiral dipshit."

Has been a fun though slightly nauseating ride, yeah. Who would've thought that a gallery of Dick Tracy villains would've seized control of the government?

And for someone concerned with shocking people, why - you seem downright RUDE... "my heavens, how unhelpful!" to quote Rumsfeld.

How will that play to the swing voters? They'll think the Democratic Party is in the midst of some Mods vs. Rockers kind of showdown between tender-eyed folkies and slightly cranky sample-synth-schizoids!

Those without electric guitars are weak on national security! Vote for me, I've got a bigger amplifier and far more effects pedals!

[venmax]

31. thebigidea wrote:

"They'll think the Democratic Party is in the midst of some Mods vs. Rockers kind of showdown "

ROFL!! They ARE you Moron!! A house divided will not stand, and currently the Left in this country IS NOT. Does election 2000 ring a bell???? Does the Name NADER ring a Bell????

Lol!! Oh man are you lost. Go on. Vote for Nader again. Yer' not satisfied unless your pissing on someone.

[not systems]

29. violent reactions to art

Are frequently the sign of deep psychological
problems rooted in authoritarian toilet training.

Seek help.

[binaryline]

23. Indeed

Don't ever forget that bland and non-threatening art/protest is the key to change! /sarcasm off

[thebigidea]

30. someone dig up Andre Breton

he can write a manifesto about Fuzzy Wuzzy Widdle Bunny Wabbits.

and now if you'll excuse me, I have to dust off my Precious Moments figurines.

[venmax]

32. Hehe....

Your too afraid to stand up for anyone but yourself. Oboy!! More I hate Bush Art!! Heh! The public's REALLY gonna eat that up.... Don't quit your day job!

[thebigidea]

36. I gotta admit, you make a good point

I'll switch to I love Bush art... the grant money will keep rollin' on in...



one nation, one people, one nitwit.

All Homeland Art must glorify the Commander in Chief. Barbarian art has no place in a prosperous Homeland. Please report to the Ministry of Misunderestimation for further indoctrination.

[not systems]

40. best one yet

I think it might be better with only the large face.

The small one does capture the inner soul rot of the
character but the overall composition might be better
without.

[thebigidea]

44. here's a related one that'll get him hoppin' up and down

yeah, a bit cheesy to go so blatantly, but I was in a bad mood that night.



Step right up for your bad art(tm) retrospective! Slow load times for the adults, free balloons for the kids!

[not systems]

38. The type of guy who kicks sand castles.

You might just be one.

If you think the guys art is a threat to getting
a dem elected in 2004 I have news for you no one
cares except you.

So you want to win the election donate money time
or whatever but ripping into these paintings like
they are going to bring down the voter turnout is
looped.

[venmax]

42. Suuuuuurrree Pal.

Right. No one cares but me. And that's why Dem's keep losing elections.... wow.... I sure am POWERFUL.

[Kool Kitty]

46. Actually, the Democrat won the popular vote in 2000.

But I guess that isn't that important, as far as you're concerned, right? Oh, and if it isn't too much trouble, do you have some sort of a reference to the self-induced vomiting that you said takes place at protests? I've been to many, and I can't remember seeing anything like that.

[venmax]

52. Right...

And they lost the popular vote in 2002... whatever...

[Kool Kitty]

59. You didn't answer my other question,

oh wise one. How can we reach out to you when you won't pay attention? Or, whatever......

[not systems]

51. Not you

but what ever system of education excreted you.

So why do you want the Democrats to win in 2004?

Why are you so concerned about winning?

Tell me what you hold to be important.

Me I think self expression though art in all its
forms is at the core of liberal though.

Did you skip that chapter?

[venmax]

55. I want the Democratic Party to CHANGE

I want them to get the Ultra-Negative Self Serving dopes back in line. Right now their running amock.

[not systems]

62. Perhaps form a gang of thugs

and go around smashing up signs you don't
agree with at candidate rallies.

By the way who are you supporting this year?

I have a guess but am not sure.

[Kool Kitty]

64. Okay, what do you want to change?

You say that you want the ultra-negative self-serving dopes back in line? How do you think this would be accomplished? Seriously. I'm interested.

[SilasSoule]

43. bigidea.....these are awesome

venmax......you don't belong here.

[venmax]

45. Right....

I love the way you guys REACH OUT for voters. Obviously I don't HATE the right wing as much as you do.... I'm such an outsider!!!

LOL!!

[disgruntella]

49. lol - PLEASE!

You post multiple insults on this thread and then whine that we're not REACHING OUT to you?

If you don't like art -- don't look at it! It's really a pretty simple concept!

[thebigidea]

54. but please, a disclaimer...

if you don't like it, please tell me why at length. It keeps the thread kicked and it keeps me giggling during tedious editing work.

Boy, I hope the finished product generates this kind of anger.

[disgruntella]

57. i was just noticing that

The more he posts, the more we tease... the more kicks the thread gets. Reminds me of O'Reilly v. Franken

:kick:

[thebigidea]

63. I'm ready for my closeup, Mister O'Reilly

blast of static - color-saturated splinters of light on bad TV set...

ANNOUNCER: "Coming up at 11 - Terrorists: are they hiding in your baking soda? And should you be storing it in the fridge after all… special tips on how not to die by some guy we found by the dumpster, looking for croutons and crumpled 8x10s of Greta Van Sustern…"

irritating bumper music and CG "Factor" nonsense. Pumping crapmusic.



O'REILLY: "And our next segment on the Factor, we look at what some call the TREASONOUS almost UNAMERICAN images of a so-called artist who looks more like a congealing young Jerry Lewis with a bad haircut to me."

cut to eternally smirking, eyebrow-rolling PERKOWSKI in black kung fu outfit with HOMELAND SECURITY FOREVER pin. CG TITLE underneath: "SUPPOSED ARTISTE OF THE ABSURD"

O'REILLY: "So let me get this straight - you made an image, and I dignify it perhaps… TOO MUCH calling it that… I mean… this is just… beyond the pale. When my staff showed me this, I almost didn't want to put it on national television - but Dick Morris couldn't be here due to some unpaid Motel Six bills…"



OFFENSIVE IMAGE is shown in the upper left hand corner. "ART??!" in comic green font underneath.

PERKOWSKI: "Oh, it's just really fabulous to be here, Bill. I'm a big fan."

Phony smile creeps up on O'Reilly's bloated puss.

O'REILLY: "You don't say - well, if you were a real FOX FAN - at www.foxnews.com slash O'Reilly, you wouldn't be making disgusting pictures of the Bush family gloating over collateral damage. Now let me show you a clip from the Minority Leader earlier today - he had some harsh words… and I want you to respond."

TRENT LOTT: "It was utterly obscene, more outrageous than everything I've ever seen and I had to send some flowers and opium to Former President Bush to smooth things over, because he really got into a towering fury… and I believe that the American People will be behind the bill that's currently passed in the house, the 2002 ANTIAMERICAN ART CONTAINMENT BILL that's gotten strong bipartisan support, uhh… Senator Zell Miller praised it's delicate phrasing and even Joe Leiberman puckered his lips and inserted a death penalty clause."

PERKOWSKI: "Uhhh… well, how can you take anything that man says seriously? He looks like a goddamn Autobot from the Transformers series - I keep excepting him to Transform or form Blazing Sword on the floor of the Senate…"

O'REILLY: "This is the No-Spin Zone, so don't try any of that fancy east AND west coast gibberish talk here, Mister Denied Modernist… it says here on this yellow piece of paper that you once killed a man just for snoring too loud."

PERKOWSKI: " Down with King George! One Two Three Four, Pretzel Monkey Hit the Floor! Bin Laden , Baker y la Casa de Bush - they all profit when the blood goes gush! One two-"

microphone goes dead, Perkowski continues screaming and making complicated Masonic gestures for no apparent reason.

O'REILLY: "Coming up next - Transvestite Lemonade Salesman with Wooden Legs - are they really safe for our children?"

fade out.

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[SilasSoule]

60. From the website on venmax's messages:

Spitfire
This song always makes me think of combat aircraft for some reason. I once saw a documentary on the RAF's WWII "Spitfire" and am convinced this has to be one of the most amazing fighter planes ever built. This song is dedicated to the people of Great Britain who were Brave enough (or crazy enough) to help us Yanks fight the War in Iraq.


Do you really believe this?

[thebigidea]

66. USA! USA! HOoooooooooooooo

if only more patriotic folkies would help us Yanks fight the War in Iraq.

[agincourt]

65. good work

don't let anyone bs you.

[Bannedd]

67. ROFL!!!!

So much for free speech!!

You chickenshits are such hypocrites.

formerly known as venmax.

[thebigidea]

68. oh, mods... why?

this was such fun. His speech will be sorely missed.

And if I've made one Iron Maiden fan unhappy with my work, well (tears welling up)... cough... well, then it would've all been worth it. I'd like to thank you all for not buying my new book, and I'd like to blame myself for not writing one. Members of the Academy of Appetizing Art, Good night...

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[Kool Kitty]

72. Back so soon-

still can't spell.

[disgruntella]

70. "so much for free speech"

This from a person telling the artist to "shut up"

You make it soooooo easy...

Edit: "Shut up" meant metaphorically, not literally.

[Bannedd]

71. I never told anyone to shut up

apparantly you guys can't handle critisizm. If you can't take the heat get the hell out of the kitchen.

[disgruntella]

we can handle intelligent criticism

You provide none.

[Kool Kitty]

73. Oh, I think you've lasted longer here

than any of us would have lasted at freerepublic.

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[disgruntella]

78. oh, say it isn't so

You're leaving? We might call you a COWARD! The ULTIMATE insult. :eyes:

[Kool Kitty]

79. How was I rude to you?

I actually asked you a question in one of my previous posts. You didn't answer. How does that make me a coward? I didn't ban you.

[thebigidea]

75. who are "you guys"?

Hell, even you'd have to admit that I'm quite graciously accepting your well thought-out critique. Its really changing the whole course of my life, I feel this need rising in me.... a need to stand up, face the world, and admit to all of them: Yes, I too am capable of covering a Sting song.

And you've made this miracle possible.

You've given me the courage to stop thinking "those kinds" of thoughts.

I'm feeling an overpowering urge to sit down in front of the tv, forget all this Dick Cheney business, and just... just... watch some "Full House."

Shout Hosanna and can I have a Hallelujah? We done RE-formed that uppity ar-teeste!

[prolesunited]

77. You guys always

give yourselves away with your atrocious spelling. Banned does NOT have two d's at the end.

[Booberdawg]

80. He's toast

:evilgrin:

[thebigidea]

81. Aftermath: Footnote to an Entertaining Thread

ah, that was lovely.

Anyway, the above stills are from these completely perverse segments I've been shooting with some friends to fill out "the paranoia show" DVD/documentary that's been in the works for quite some time...

that "DC 9/11: Time of Crisis" movie put me in such a bad mood, that a sitcom rendition (complete with laugh track, boos, audience gasps, etc) with creepy lighting and creepier masks was in order to even the score.

Somehow, I get the feeling this version will end up being the more accurate one when the dust settles from Dubya's Crusade.