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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 01:35 PM
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Howard Zinn NEW COLUMN ** Excellent **
Howard Zinn has a new column on Iraq and it's a beauty:

http://www.progressive.org/oct03/zinn1003.html

Also, The Progressive has brought their "HIDDEN HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES" calendar back for 2004! I had missed it when they stopped. A GREAT calendar to remind us of days that never should have been forgotten in the first place.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 01:37 PM
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1. Why are the old ones smart?
I have been recommended Zinn's book many times but whenever I find it in a bookstore I dont have the money. Zinn makes a lot of sense I can see why so many people recommend this book.
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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 01:44 PM
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2. John - His book
John - Zinn's book is a classic - a MUST-READ. This is one you HAVE to read before you start college. Hell, I'll SEND you the money! You simply have to read this and then --- pass it on to your friends!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 01:45 PM
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3. I plan to order it perhaps tonight
Thanks the problem has just been, you see I have the money, but its never on me. Dont worry about it. I will read it, it sounds excellent.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 01:58 PM
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5. John -
Go to the library! Zinn's A People's History of the United States is an absolute must read for you now.

If you want to purchase it, then buy it used. (Go to Amazon.com used books.)

Either way, read it soon. I wish a book like Zinn's had been around when I was in HS. It would have answered so many questions I had back then.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 02:10 PM
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8. I have this thing with new books lol
Thanks though.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 02:39 PM
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11. i just bought the revised copy...
I have the prior edition also which i would mail to you but i think you should read the revised copy and be up-to- date!! :hi: you HAVE to read it John!!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 02:40 PM
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12. thanks jon
Is the revised one they are selling in stores and at amazon? I wanna be up to date.
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 05:08 PM
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17. Yes, it is.
The one I saw in B&N had chapters on the Clinton Presidency and the 2000 Election. They should be selling the same one on Amazon.
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 05:07 PM
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15. I'm reading it now, John
It certainly is a must. I'm about halfway through- it's dense and definitely a History book (hope you like History) but it is very informative essential to forming a REAL picture of American History, not just what "they" want ya to learn.

I borrowed a friend's and it's paperback. I think I've seen it at B&N for around $25-30.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 05:08 PM
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16. oh ok thanks
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 01:49 PM
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4. Zinn
is always insightful.
For more Zinn go to Zmag.org.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 02:00 PM
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6. Here is a good snippet:
<snip>
. Those millions of people in this country who are not citizens and therefore, by the Patriot Act, are subject to being pulled out of their homes and held indefinitely by the FBI, with no constitutional rights--those people are not alien to me. But this small group of men who have taken power in Washington, they are alien to me.

I wake up thinking this country is in the grip of a President who was not elected, who has surrounded himself with thugs in suits who care nothing about human life abroad or here, who care nothing about freedom abroad or here, who care nothing about what happens to the earth, the water, the air. And I wonder what kind of world our children and grandchildren will inherit. More Americans are beginning to feel, like the soldiers in Iraq, that something is terribly wrong, that this is not what we want our country to be.

....more
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 02:08 PM
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7. Impeach Bush! Impeach the system!
Iraq in full control of its own oil!!!
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PBinOregon Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 02:19 PM
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9. Thank You
Zinn is a great mind, a great voice, more people need to hear him. Thanks for posting it, keep spreading it around!
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 02:36 PM
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10. Make your children read Zinn's book when they are studying American histor
Regular school textbooks are not enough.
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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 02:50 PM
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13. There's another GREAT Zinn Book
Edited on Sat Sep-13-03 03:08 PM by JasonBerry
As good as Zinn's A People's History of the United States is there is another Zinn book that I think made as big an impression on me. It's called You Can't Be Neutral on a Moving Train : A Personal History of Our Times. It is Zinn's own story - very moving and extremely powerful.

People's History Info:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060528370

Neutral on a Moving Train info:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0807071277/
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JasonBerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 05:00 PM
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14. * kick * for a great column from Howard Zinn
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 09:05 PM
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18. not a lot of progressives here at DU
:shrug:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 09:07 PM
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19. Thanks, JasonBerry....
Zinn and Robert Parry are two important figures to me.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 01:44 PM
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20. there should be some DU neocons responding to this
and run-of-the-mill Dems too
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