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azndndude Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:39 PM
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Did Bush showing up at the Pope's viewing disgust you??
Also Condi Rice was there as well, but no Jimmy Carter, these assholes are responsible for thousands of deaths, the Pope was opposed to the illegal Iraq war. He looked like a little kid that got caught with his hands in the cookie jar.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:45 PM
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1. Yes. He can't show the appropriate emotion. He sees it as a
political opportunity and a chance to have attention. The dimwit.
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hippiepunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:46 PM
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2. yep
He looked like hes bored.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:48 PM
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3. It no more disgust me than the fact that
this Silverspoon Sociopath is the Pres. of the U.S.A.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:03 AM
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22. You got that right!
Couldn't agree more! :puke: :puke:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:49 PM
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:07 AM
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25. There was still much
anti-Catholic feelings against 'Popism', U$ policy not toget close to the Vatican. Many Fundies say the Catholics aren't Christian and probably think they are'worse' than Jews or Muslims.
I know, have felt the brunt of these fanactics.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:24 AM
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:29 AM
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28. I should mention
that Carter is the most Christian among them.
It wasn't Carter, it was U$ tradition and policy.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:33 AM
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:36 AM
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31. Seeing a report on a Catholic channel
Visit to Cuba and Castro freed over 300 political prisoners after visit. Bu$h, well the death penality still lives on and pleas for clemency? HA! says U$.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 03:19 AM
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36. carter didnt meet those popes..he has worked diligently with
this pope, and those popes were popes for a very shirt time..this pope was made pope during carters presidency..and this was the first pope to come to our white house, at the invitation of president Jimmy Carter..a real diplomat and a man with integrity and perfect protocol and decency, and decorum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fly a catholic who resents * the chimp being at my popes funeral..espe3cially since my pope call * the anti christ !
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:50 PM
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5. Bush* waking up in the morning disgusts me.
eom
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:50 PM
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6. Shrub showing up anywhere disgusts me...
but I agree he had no business showing up at that funeral
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:51 PM
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7. Take heart: Being among all those real Christians disgusts him, too.
n/t
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:53 PM
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8. I was especially embarassed...
...when Bush flagged down one of the cardinals and said, "I'll have a bag of peanuts, 2 beers and some elbow room because I'm about to pick my nose like I'm digging for gold!"




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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:58 PM
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9. Yes.
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:02 AM
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10. yes
and Someone forgot the lightening bolt.



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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:06 AM
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11. Yes - more than any event Chimp has ever attended...n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:06 AM
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12. Carter should have gone instead of Pickles
And wtf was the deal with her and Condi wearing those veils? Were they trying to look like nuns? I was insulted by that and I am not even a practicing Catholic anymore.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 03:22 AM
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37. It is tradition for women to wear the veils,
Hillary Clinton wore one too when she met the Pope.

A kind of "when in Rome" type of thing.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 09:22 PM
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40. Women stopped covering their heads in the Catholic church
almost 40 years ago.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 09:26 PM
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43. Check out this picture
Edited on Fri Apr-08-05 09:27 PM by proud2Blib
These women are not wearing veils



Only Sister Mary Condi and Sister Mary Pickles are wearing veils.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:08 AM
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13. I did like this picture of him by the bier with a RED CONEHEAD
There was apparently a cardinal behind him who was a bit taller. So appropriate! And it goes with his vacant expression. If it was true that the pope feared he might be the AntiChrist, so much worse the travesty.



(This is the 3rd photo in the OP of this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3436947&mesg_id=3436947&page=)

And the Bush admin people apparently lied to Jimmy Carter to keep him out of the group:



http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002233661_carter07.html
Carter's absence from U.S. group is causing a stir

(snip)

But one Carter aide who asked not to be named so as not to "make a fuss" over the episode called the White House version of events "the truth, but not the whole truth."

The aide said the White House indeed called Carter asking if he'd like to join the U.S. delegation, and Carter replied that he would. But, according to the aide, the White House soon called back saying the small group did not include former presidents. So Carter backed out, figuring the seat was needed for someone else, the aide said.

The White House called once more, saying the first President Bush would, in fact, attend, the aide said. But the aide said Carter declined once more, thinking it was understandable that the president's father would go and assuming the guest list was essentially closed. The aide said that when Carter learned Clinton was going too, it was too late, and thus the former president became visibly absent from the group.

(snip)

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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:17 AM
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14. Dubya didn't learn one thing about Italian etiquette
You go to Italy only to eat pasta, you do not bring with you rice on the side...
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:58 AM
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20. LOL n/t
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Les BOOGIE Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:19 AM
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15. everything about Shrub disgusts me, especially ..............
wearing the US flag on his lapel
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:20 AM
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16. DUers here who mention the vacant, stunned look on --
-- Poppy's and Dubya's faces... yes. That's what's striking about this PR turn at the Vatican.

If these are the photos running in the world's newspapers, those facial expressions on the 2 presidents Bush will reinforce the idea that they are vacuous, clueless droids completely unaware of the magnitude of events around them.

Like many Popes, JPII was controversial. But his range as a thinker eclipsed both Bush presidents put together. When either Poppy or Shrub dies, I very seriously doubt their passing will elicit the measure of grief and respect accorded to JPII.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:05 AM
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24. When chimp goes, there will be about as
much grief as was displayed by the munchkins upon the passing of the Wicked Witch of the East.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:15 AM
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26.  : )
(that was a bingo, LibDemAlways)
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:33 AM
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29. Agreed. No intellectual match.
I think the late Pope had both masters and not one but two doctoral degrees. Label that picture:

Three degrees above zeroes!
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burn the bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:26 AM
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17. Bush becomes very little boyish whenever he is around the pope
I've noticed in all of the bush and pope pics that shrub is politely folding his hands or kicking his feet. He just looks childish whenever i've seen him with the pope.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:59 AM
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32. Bush is the most undeserving head of state on the planet. He's dumber
than a plank.
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:47 AM
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18. It disgusts me that...
... our "moral values" leadership doesn't "value morals" -- other than those that are practically expedient in fomenting support for this innately warped and compromised cabal of corrupted and sadly myopic/messianic ideologues. The blind are clearly leading the blind here.

I too saw the footage of The Pope scolding Bush about Iraq. It was manifestly a picture of the true saint lecturing the false prophet; and Bush was visibly stunned by John Paul's presence.

The rife hypocrisy of this administration makes me physically bilious.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:52 AM
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19. Bush showing up anywhere
disgusts me. I imagine he will embarrass us badly again. And Condescending Rice is disgusting to me too. Although, I'm not normally one to say one word about anyone's appearance, looking at either one of those two makes my stomach turn. I miss the days when people just evolved because they believed it was possibly the truth. Apparently, now you can simply refuse to evolve just because you think liberals are bad. Hence, we have to look at those two and just wait for them to totally embarrass us again, like when they interpretted phony information as "intelligence" and started a whole damn war over it. I'd think Condescending would be a little smarter than Bush, but she does follow him. Ugh.

Yes. It disgusts me.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:02 AM
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21. They HUMILIATED & DEGRADED themselves.
Took note of Cardinals, Priests behind them and they're eyes told it all. They do not represent this kid. Ashamed of them... the world knows what they're all worth... zilch!
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:03 AM
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23. YES!
Condi was making evil faces and to boot andrew Card was there. It looked like Laura was telling Bu$h to stop fidgeting.
Among them all, Carter is a real Christian!
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 02:30 AM
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33. could someone please tell laura about catholic ettiquette??
I am Catholic and havent covered my head since I was 10 years old. Women do not cover their heads when they visit the pope or catholic churches.
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 02:36 AM
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34. Carter wanted to go to the funeral but...
...as the story goes, he declined after being informed that the Vatican was only allowing five dignitaries from each country.

This means that Rice is there instead of a senior U.S. president.

Bush avoids appearing in the same frame as Carter as much as he avoided being in the same frame as John Paul after their first meeting -- where Bush looked like a kid caught with his hand stuck in the cookie jar.

Philanthropists like Carter cannot be acknowledged on the stage of the new world disorder -- it weakens the power of greed.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 03:16 AM
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35. yes it disgusted me and disgusts me..
and papa the pedophile with him..they make me sick!!

fly
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:48 AM
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38. ummm......
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 05:37 AM
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39. Hitler showing up at the Pope's funeral.. Very disgusting
and the whole world is watching..
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 09:23 PM
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41. To be honest, it did.
As a Catholic, I felt violated by his presence.

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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 09:25 PM
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42. Bush's very existence disgusts me.
Beyond words.

Really.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 09:26 PM
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44. Yes
Bush defames the dead by speaking of them.
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Princess Turandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 09:42 PM
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45. On the one hand, I think that the 'President of the US' should have
attended, given all of the other world leaders that attended. Before you even get to the hypocrisy involved, the other problem is that none of the Bushs look like they've ever were at a religious service before. Poppy looked irritated during the private viewing as if he was too good to be there, while W & wife looked confused; meanwhile their presence prevented people who had honest emotions abt wanting to pay their respects to the Pope from getting into the church. Clinton at least looked like he was saying a prayer.

The Jews & Muslims looked more solemn than Bush did. Thank goodness they didn't show too much of * during the service. I wonder if he was miffed that he wasn't in a better seat! And then to have him say how moved he was by all of it..probably rehearsed it all night.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 01:29 AM
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46. It made me angry seeing him there with Clinton and not Carter. eom
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