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No Passaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:45 PM
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General Clark...i wonder!
...how can Republicans find a way to call him un-patriotic. It's gonna be really interesting.

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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:46 PM
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they did for Max Cleland
just wait, you'll see
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:46 PM
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2. Thats true, thats another
They have ways. All it takes is enough lies.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:46 PM
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1. They found a way to call John McCain an anti-American Traitor
If they did it to him, they can do it to Clark.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:50 PM
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3. Just one sentence against Bush foreign policy and Clark's a traitor
in Rumsfeld's eyes, and in the eyes of those backing Bush.

They have trashed other Democratic war heroes, they will do it again.

We ought not fall into the mistaken notion that Clark's career in the military somehow coopts Bush and the neocons push for Global Hegemony.

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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:58 PM
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8. The next time you hear "Criticize Bush - you are helping the terrorists"
...Then tell them criticising Clinton must the direct cause of 9/11.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:50 PM
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4. Count on it
Now Clark enters the crucible. Dean has been there for a couple of weeks.

This is the test of character we've been waiting for.
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leftwingnut Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:53 PM
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6. exactly! eom
dean/clark '04
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cjbuchanan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:51 PM
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5. He didn't support Bush in Iraq
Isn't that enough. Obviously he not only loves terrorists and hates America, he wants another 9-11. I'm sure he only served all those years in the military in order to sneak into the White House and turn the country over to Osama, oh wait don't mention him, Saddam, wait not him, um, let's just say bad people.

If you support Clark, Ashcroft will talk you out of it.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 01:58 PM
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7. It's already started
I just read this post on an Ebay Wes Clark announcement thread. A woman who idolizes the shrub posted it. This is just a taste of things to come, I think. I can only post a portion of it because she didn't give a link. I hope I don't break any posting rules here. If I do, just remove it, I'll understand. By none other than Rich Lowry. Isn't that the guy Al Franken wanted to fight in his book? :-)


The hollow Clark boomlet
Rich Lowry



Call him "General Chutzpah." Former Gen. Wesley Clark, perhaps soon-to-be a Democratic presidential candidate, is riding high on his prescience about the difficulties of the current Iraq war. But he utterly lacked prescience about his own war, in Kosovo in 1999. It is just one reason why -- as a political commodity -- there is probably less than meets the eye to the telegenic general.

Back then, Clark was the NATO supreme commander and confident that the threat of bombing would make Serb leader Slobodan Milosevic buckle and relinquish plans to cleanse the Serb province of Kosovo of its Albanians. If Clark had been a TV pundit during the Kosovo war -- which he became afterward -- he would no doubt have subjected his own handiwork to his earnest, know-it-all tsk-tsking.

President Clinton believed, like Clark, that Milosevic would back down immediately. So, he began a limp NATO bombing campaign, and when that didn't work, he had nothing to fall back on except more of a limp NATO bombing campaign. Ivo H. Daalder and Michael E. O'Hanlon write in their account of the war, "Winning Ugly": "NATO did not expect a long war. Worse, it did not even prepare for the possibility."

To Clark's credit, he pushed for ground troops, but that was a nonstarter, because no one in Washington thought it worth the risk in a war that had little connection to the American national interest. Clark has criticized Iraq as a "war of choice." But Kosovo was even more so, conceived as a splendid little humanitarian war that would infuse NATO with new life. No one even bothered to try to argue that Milosevic constituted an "imminent threat" to the United States -- Clark's standard for the Iraq war.ouncement thread. A woman who idolizes the shrub posted it. This is just a taste of things to come, I think. I can only post a portion of it because she didn't give a link. I hope I don't break any posting rules here. If I do, just remove it, I'll understand. :-)

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mkregel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:01 PM
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9. Figgers...
also figures it's not mentioned how he didn't lose A SINGLE SOLDIER!!!!
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-16-03 02:15 PM
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10. He WANTS TO GET ALONG WITH YOUR FRIENDS!!!!
That's one of the main reasons I started listening to him....He was warning against Bush's alienating of world leaders. As a Canadian I LOVED to hear that...Plus he's a bright man who was a Rhodes Scholar (like Clinton) and he doesn't seem to hem and haw when asked his opinions....He seems straightforward....I like him!!!!
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