I Think HIGH HOLY HELL is About to Break Loose

[Beetwasher]

Democrats Question Cheney's Halliburton Payments

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=615&e=9&u=/nm/energy_halliburton_cheney_dc

Rumsfeld Sees No Link Between Iraq, 9/11

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&e=1&u=/ap/rumsfeld_iraq

Clark the general could be Democrat trump card against Bush the war leader

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1506&e=19&u=/afp/us_politics_clark

Check out the rest of the top stories on Yahoo:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=index&cid=1760

Something is happening and you don't know what it is....

It's all spiralling out of control, what do you do?

[dorktv]

1. Celebrate comes to mind. Anything to get rid of that twit.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

43. If Clark is leading a coup against Bush

I won't vote for him

[tom_paine]

53. What does THAT mean?

n/t

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

64. mm, perhaps I meant I won't *get* to vote for him?

What does this mean?

"Something is happening and you don't know what it is...."

[DancingBear]

2. Break away, then!

"Something is happening and you don't know what it is...."

Do you, Mr. Jones?

I'm still giddy from the Clark announcement, and I have this (faint, but getting ever so louder by the day) belief that the pendulum is moving.

[ET Awful]

9. William Butler Yeats came to mind . . .

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;

[Beetwasher]

12. Yes!

I was thinking of that quote as well!

[ET Awful]

17. From 'The Second Coming'

Very dark poem, but very cool :)


Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood- dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its' slow thighs, While all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches toward Bethlehem to be born?

-- William Butler Yeats

[Beetwasher]

19. Chills Man

I always get the deepest chills when I read that poem, especially now...

[ET Awful]

23. Same here . . .

I think the first time I had ever heard of the poem was in Stephen King's 'The Stand', and he only used the line I quote first, and the last 2 lines of the poem.

It was eerie then, nad even more so when I tracked down the whole thing and read it.

[piece sine]

49. as sung by Joni Mitchell

I might add...

[InkAddict]

62. Are you referring to "Big Yellow Taxi"?

[Democat]

3. Cheney needs to be taken down

The financial disclosure forms also said that Cheney continued to hold 433,333 unexercised Halliburton stock options, with exercise prices below the company's current stock market price.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=615&e=9&u=/nm/energy_halliburton_cheney_dc

[Jacobin]

5. WHAAAAA????

For real?

That should be mandatory minimum sentencing time......

[janekat]

16. He always says that he has no "STOCK" - very misleading

There is not a big difference between having stock and having "stock options" - in my book. Glad he's finally getting called on that.

[Hippo_Tron]

22. Not really...

The only official powers the vice president has are to preside over the senate and to help the cabinet decide if the president is disabled. Therefore officially it was Bush's decission and Chenney had nothing to do with the decission to use Halliburton for Iraq, although we know that's bullshit.

[Jacobin]

24. Everyone knows that Unca Dickless the Animotronic VP

tells the boy pResident what to do. Hell, that's why they picked him....to give the boy king "gravitas"....in other words a fucking brain.


This is a high fucking crime. Bidless billions in contracts to company in which a VP who stalks around, harassing the CIA to cook intelligence to start a fucking war so he can cash in his options (in a charity my ass).

[quaker bill]

4. Watching CNN

The other night, they ran a bit contrasting current Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice, and Bush quotes and previous quotes on Iraq from +/- March - April.

Not news to be as I was listening at the time.

It was interesting because it put their BS in high relief.

It was even more interesting because CNN thought to do it and air it.

I agree, something is suddenly (last week or two) up here.

A hypothesis, Franken, Clinton, Conason, Moore....5 of top 15 NYT best sellers with a well left of center point of view. (Trying not to be too cynical) But, maybe they are beginning to think that there is a market in a bit of liberal thinking....

Sweeps are comming soon....

[Beetwasher]

6. Is it Becoming Hip to Bash Bush?

It's making money in the publishing industry, you're right, so it definitely sells!

[janekat]

20. Yep!!! It's now "Open Season" on them and they're letting loose.

The media's been "bottled up" since 9/11 and now that can get away with criticizing Bush. So they are letting loose with a VENGEANCE!!!

[jumptheshadow]

11. You hit the nail right on the head

It's not cynicism at all. You're being realistic. Some exec at CNN is probably thinking that their market is moving leftward.

Who knows? They might even be monitoring their mail and e-mail, too.

[quaker bill]

38. Thanks

[NewYorkerfromMass]

47. more likely their stocks and profits are going south

nothing more critical than the bottom line and so W has got to go!

[kayleybeth]

7. What do you do?

Something is happening and you don't know what it is....
It's all spiralling out of control, what do you do?

If you're GWB, you start another war.

[Andy_Stephenson]

8. Or LIHOP

again.

[quaker bill]

39. Disarming Saddam, $ 87 b. Disarming Bush, priceless.

Just an observation.

[liberalnurse]

10. Cheney is headed for a padded cell

with 5-point leather restraints.....And I want the key!

[moof]

13. On the need for a deversion,

it seemed odd that Nova would rerun the dirty bomb show tonight. This is the 3rd or fouth time it has been on since the orginal broadcast.

[Beetwasher]

18. We're at a CRITICAL and DANGEROUS Junction

If I read them correctly, they can't allow this sort of detoriation to continue...If they do, then I'll be relieved because they're not as calculatingly evil as I currently think they are (among other reasons for relief!)...

[hippiechick]

50. oh, they're evil all right ...

their downfall is going to be their arrogance, IMO. too much is going to slip thru the cracks and see the light of day ... little things will all add up to sink their boat of corruption and pillage.

and then Hippie will be one PARTYIN GAL !!!


:hippie:

[Beam Me Up]

14. I agree...something IS happening

and we don't know what it is YET. The ninth circuit court of appeals ruling re the California recall is part of this, too.

And I believe the Clark announcement is significant in this respect. I'm a Kucinich supporter but I see how easily he, and many of the other Democratic candidates, can be pigeon holed and ignored by the corporate media. This won't be so easy with Clark. Clark entering the ring brings a NEEDED media attention to Democratic prospects.

[librechik]

15. First Cheney walks the plank, just like Agnew. Then Shrub apponts a Pug

VP, possibly someone like Frist. Then Shrub resigns for the good of the country to avoid prosecution. Colin Powell moves up to VP.

Who do we have to run against that ticket? A doctor and a General?

I'm hallucinating, right?

[Beam Me Up]

35. Hallucinating, maybe...

Our society wet down the rabbit hole and through the looking glass some 30 years ago -- so, indeed, almost anything is possible. However, what this really means is that novelty is increasing; it is becoming increasingly difficult--even for the Neo-cons--to predict with any certainty precisely what is going to happen. Where you and I are, we barely even know the real players (almost always invisible, and behind the scenes).

The Bush Cabal is a criminal enterprise. They are traitors and murderers acting at the behest of their own and other vastly powerful and wealthy interests. The Congress is largely corrupted compromised. The Judiciary probably even more so. The 'Fifth Estate' is bought and paid for. Meanwhile, the infrastructures that define mechanized and technological 'civilization' remain dependent on declining reserves of non-renewable energy.

It is not an exaggeration to say that the whole of humanity is rapidly approaching a crisis point--being DRIVEN toward it is more accurate. The events of 9/11 were a psychic driver, meant to put our society precisely where it is (docile, stunned, shocked and awed, fearful, angry, mailable). HOWEVER, those who made the decision to drive us to this point are NOT the only players in the Big Game.

If we are going to get beyond this mess we are in (and by 'we', here, I'm not only referring to the industrialized nations) we are going to have to find something in ourselves that is finer and more true than 'our own best interests'. The time when humanity can be divided into factions based on religious, political, economic, racial or even CLASS differences is rapidly coming to an end.

To put it bluntly THE WHOLE OF CIVILIZATION IS ABOUT TO BE RESTRUCTURED. Of course, this is what the Neo-cons want, too--only what they envision is the furtherance of class tyranny: the subjugation of the human spirit (the 'masses') to a fascist World Order. What they fail to understand is that the time of this hierarchical 'self' vs 'other' way of thinking is precisely what is coming to an end. It is an epistemological error highlighted and underscored via every branch of science--especially cybernetics, ecology and quantum physics. Future History will show the Neo-cons as the narrow-minded Inquisitors of our age--hell bent on preventing us from seeing the Big Picture: WE ARE ALL ONE LIVING FORCE ON THIS PLANET. What we are witnessing are the death-throws of post-Renessance Western Civilization and the emergence of a completely new possibility: Global Consciousness.

Indeed, we live in interesting times: a unique historical moment. What you and I think and do plays its small part in the whole of what is now taking place.

As strange as it is, YOU ARE HERE NOW. Are you paying attention?

[frank frankly]

41. damn straight

excellent insight
all very true

[librechik]

42. Wow, great rant!

hear hear!

Is that "Also Sprach Zarathustra" I hear in the background?

[Beam Me Up]

56. "Fanfare for the Common Man", more like. EOM

[Beetwasher]

45. Chaos Theory

Well said and I agree.

The one's who are trying to "pull the strings" as it were, are playing with forces they are neither really in control of (though they think they are or at least can be) or even close to understanding. And this is true on several different levels...

[populistmom]

59. Great post

Sometimes I hate being one of those people who know the truth rather then another sheep drone, but this is the reality we live in and we have to keep fighting it.

[calimary]

37. This could be true because Frist isn't doing too well for them in the

Senate. They could decide he's of better use somewhere else.

[aquart]

48. That would be good for the Republican party.

But Bush doesn't give a shit for the Republican party.

He isn't a Republican. He is a fascist. They need to figure that out. And decide who they are now.

[MissMillie]

67. * will not resign "for the good of the country"

What, if anything, has he done "for the good of the country"?

He's power-hungry. He's going to hold on to it with all his might.


Fortunately, enough of us have seen that the emperor has no clothes.... we're going to ditch him.

[Hippo_Tron]

21. This is all recycled old news

The Bush administration has been aware for a very long time that Saadam wasn't involved with 9/11. I mean if they thought they could somehow found a way to prove it don't you think they would've included it in the state of the union with all that other bullshit?

[ET Awful]

26. BUT, it's now being publicized . . .

Which means it may actually smack the 70% of the brain dead people in this country upside the head with some truth.

[jumptheshadow]

25. Something that crossed my mind

Okay, so laugh at me. But I wondered why no Supreme Court justices resigned this past summer. Rumor had it that one or two of them were thinking of stepping down. Then nothing happened. Could it have been that some of the moderate conservatives who have been thinking about retirement are loathe to give Bush the power to radicalize the court. Or is this just wishful thinking on my part?

[tnlefty]

27. requesting to be forgiven in advance...

I have been hoping for quite a long time that O'Connor NEVER enjoys one day of a retirement or anything that resembles one after her comment about not being able to retire when it was accurately reported that Gore had won FL. It is my sincere wish that she is either a bankrupted pauper or that she goes straight from the SCOTUS to a coffin.

[opihimoimoi]

29. OMG, IT IS HAPPENING AFTER ALL

I got the wine on ice, the ribs in the smoker, the pig in the imu, the poi on order, and the caviar in the fridge.

Damn, this took 3 freakin years.

Damn, it took this long for the people to wake up.

Damn, we had to plant so many coffee trees.

Damn, it took so much Visine.

Dame, it took DU to be a part of the UNDUing.

Damn, I gonna get drunk, LOL ROTFLMAO

[Beetwasher]

32. LOL!

Well, I'm feeling a glimmer of hope myself...

[morningglory]

31. You could get Pat Robertson to work on that, if you give

a big donation to the offering plate, I am sure.

[Beetwasher]

28. I dunno

Not a bad theory. Some of them might be feeling pangs of guilt perhaps at seeing what they have wrought...

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

33. Pat Robertson happened to them...

with his prayer-a-thon, dedicated to removing them from the bench. I think God heard, and the answer was a big, resounding "NO".

That'll teach him to mess with the REAL boss!

[LoZoccolo]

30. What do you do? KEEP GOING.

Tear down as many lies as you can. And let people know.

[Beetwasher]

34. Giving up is never an option

I was actually asking that question from the perspective of Bushco...I think it's a dangerous time to be alive right now...Cornered beast and all that...

[Resistance Is Futile]

36. Irrational exhuberance

Something is happening and you don't know what it is....

The opposition party's support is peaking too soon.

It's all spiralling out of control, what do you do?

Reinvent the propaganda, just as Rumpsfeld is doing.

[Beetwasher]

40. Heh?

"The opposition party's support is peaking too soon".

Which one? The Dems? It's just getting started. They haven't even started digging...Wishful thinking on your part?

"Reinvent the propaganda, just as Rumpsfeld is doing."

A wise man once said, "you can fool some of the people some of the time, yadda yadda yadd.."

We may be witnessing why he was a truly wise man...Rummy is flopping around like a psychopath who just had a reality slap upside the head...

[opihimoimoi]

44. LOL, Rummy is frothing and his drool cup runneth over

Only thing missing these days are the crossed eyes(apologies to those afflicted with this condition)
and the Depends.

[Resistance Is Futile]

52. I told you so

The other members of the junta have now turned on a dime and are asserting that they never claimed there was any link between Iraq and Sept 11. It just so happened that Rump got the new script first.

This is exactly what I predicted: they are reinventing the propaganda in the face of changing opposition tactics. This is exactly how perpetual revolution works.

[Beetwasher]

55. That doesn't mean it's going to work

This is desperate flailing. It can ONLY backfire on them. Their base is gonna freak big time. I'm talking psychological breakdown here. Does not compute. It could lead to violence on the fringe right. Time will tell...

[Resistance Is Futile]

61. Does not compute

Their base is gonna freak big time. I'm talking psychological breakdown here. Does not compute. It could lead to violence on the fringe right.

You underestimate the mental flexability of the rabid right. The new information will be fully assimilated and will completely displace the old. Think of it as a firmware update: once the new propaganda has been downloaded, no trace of the old propaganda will remain. Once the administration's new party line has been fully propagated, every right wing bot will assert that there was never any suggestion that Iraq was in any way connected to Sept 11.

[JHB]

68. I'm not worrying about the rabid right...

...as you point out, they're a lost cause.

I'm after guys like these and the people they influence:
(From Monday's Newsday LTTE:

Paul Vitello talks of Americans as if we are gullible and can't form opinions <"Slice of Just Deserts for American Pious," News, Sept. 9>. A majority of the people in our nation believe in what President George W. Bush is doing, but Vitello calls us misguided. People aren't happy with the cost and consequences of war, and he further scoffs.

Well, I am not happy that men and women have died in combat, but I know it is necessary. Saddam Hussein hates the United States, and I believe he has ties to al-Qaida. Vitello wants proof, but Middle East countries are not the United States, so maybe evidence like bank statements and recordings of conversations does not exist.

I'm a New York City firefighter, and I saw Bush promising us that "those who are responsible for this will hear us soon." They did, and they still are!

[DrBB]

46. Interesting that the Clark picture is #2 on the Yahoo top pictures list

...and shows up about 5 times in the top 15 or so. Not sure what that indicates, but photos seem to earn their rankings separately from the stories themselves. Lotta people must like the way he looks?

[Capn Sunshine]

51. OrangeAlert! Orange Alert!

It's about time to whip out the bogiemen
:nuke:

[roguevalley]

54. Isn't it something that we now have ten guys running and they

have lucifer?

[opihimoimoi]

57. Yup, we got the best, they got the worst....... Bwahahahahaha

Just wait till that notion hits America.

[revree]

58. IS THIS WHY I'VE BEEN FEELING SO DIZZY LATELY?

Seriously, my head feels fuzzy and my instinct, which is always right on, being a woman and a witch, tells me something strange is a'brewing!!!

[undergroundpanther]

63. somethin's going on

Hmm I feel it too.

[pasadenaboy]

60. I think HIGH HOLY DAYS are coming

in a few weeks. ;)

[freepotter]

65. I don't mean to rain on the parade....

but it looks like the Dems. are going to give them another pass.

"September 16, 2003—Democrats in Congress have abandoned their efforts to investigate the White House's use of questionable intelligence information about Iraq's alleged stockpile of weapons of mass destruction, saying the issue has been "eclipsed" by President Bush's request for $87 billion from Congress to continue funding the war there.

David Helfert, a spokesman for Congressman David Obey, D-Wisconsin, who criticized the White House for relying too heavily on murky intelligence to get support for the war, said Friday that congressional Democrats would no longer pursue hearings on the intelligence matter.

"We're past that," Helfert said, referring to the intelligence issue. "Those questions were eclipsed by the supplemental request by President Bush for $87 billion" to fund the Iraq war. "Congress is focusing on asking questions about the $87 billion, what it will be used for and whether it's worth it. It would be a good characterization to say that the intelligence questions on Iraq and how the president came to believe that it had weapons of mass destruction are no longer an issue."

rest: http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/091603Leopold/091603leopold.html
WRITE YOUR REPRESENTATIVES! PROTEST!!

[Mari333]

66. Goddamned Pink TUTU Dems

and they wonder why people didnt vote in 2002. God, they piss me off.