I'm jealous of your government sites...

[Sephirstein]

They're so easy to navigate, elected representatives have a far stronger online presence, and it's far easier to find voting records based on party.

I'kl give you a recent rollcall list for a vote -- recognising marriage as an exclusive union between a man and a woman -- thankfully failing.

(Division No. 210 -- Vote no 210)

YEAS: 132, NAYS: 137

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YEAS -- POUR

Abbott
Ablonczy
Anders
Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands)
Assad
Assadourian
Asselin
Bailey
Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls)
Bellemare
Benoit
Bertrand
Bonin
Breitkreuz
Bryden
Burton
Cadman
Calder
Cannis
Casey
Casson
Chamberlain
Charbonneau
Chatters
Cummins
Day
Doyle
Duncan
Efford
Elley
Epp
Eyking
Fitzpatrick
Fontana
Forseth
Gallant
Gaudet
Goldring
Gouk
Grewal
Grey
Guarnieri
Hanger
Harper
Harris
Herron
Hill (Macleod)
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hilstrom
Hinton
Hubbard
Jackson
Jaffer
Johnston
Karygiannis
Keddy (South Shore)
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Kilger (Stormont--Dundas--Charlottenburgh)
Lanctôt
Lastewka
Lebel
Lee
Lincoln
Longfield
Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands)
Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni)
MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough)
Malhi
Maloney
Mark
Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca)
Mayfield
McCormick
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McNally
McTeague
Meredith
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Moore
Murphy
Normand
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Obhrai
Pallister
Pankiw
Penson
Peric
Peschisolido
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Pillitteri
Pratt
Provenzano
Rajotte
Reed (Halton)
Reid (Lanark—Carleton)
Reynolds
Ritz
Savoy
Schellenberger
Scherrer
Schmidt
Serré
Sgro
Skelton
Solberg
Sorenson
Speller
Spencer
St-Julien
Steckle
Stinson
Strahl
Szabo
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Thompson (Wild Rose)
Tirabassi
Toews
Tonks
Ur
Vellacott
Venne
Volpe
Wappel
Wayne
White (North Vancouver)
White (Langley--Abbotsford)
Wilfert
Williams
Yelich -- 132
NAYS -- CONTRE

Adams
Alcock
Allard
Anderson (Victoria)
Augustine
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska)
Bagnell
Barnes (London West)
Barrette
Beaumier
Bélanger
Bennett
Bevilacqua
Bigras
Binet
Blaikie
Blondin-Andrew
Bonwick
Borotsik
Boudria
Bourgeois
Bradshaw
Brison
Brown
Bulte
Byrne
Caccia
Caplan
Carignan
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Chrétien
Clark
Coderre
Collenette
Comartin
Copps
Crête
Cullen
Cuzner
Dalphond-Guiral
Davies
DeVillers
Dhaliwal
Dion
Discepola
Dromisky
Drouin
Duceppe
Duplain
Easter
Eggleton
Farrah
Finlay
Folco
Frulla
Fry
Gagnon (Québec)
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay)
Gauthier
Girard-Bujold
Godfrey
Godin
Goodale
Graham
Grose
Guay
Guimond
Harvard
Harvey
Ianno
Jennings
Jobin
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Keyes
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Lalonde
LeBlanc
Lill
Loubier
Macklin
Mahoney
Manley
Marceau
Marcil
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle--Émard)
Martin (Winnipeg Centre)
Masse
McCallum
McDonough
McLellan
Ménard
Minna
Mitchell
Nault
Neville
Nystrom
Pagtakhan
Paquette
Paradis
Parrish
Patry
Peterson
Pettigrew
Phinney
Picard (Drummond)
Plamondon
Price
Proctor
Proulx
Redman
Regan
Robillard
Robinson
Rock
Roy
Saada
Sauvageau
Scott
Shepherd
Simard
St-Hilaire
St-Jacques
St. Denis
Stewart
Telegdi
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Vanclief
Wasylycia-Leis
Whelan -- 137

PAIRED -- PAIRÉS

Bakopanos
Bergeron
Desrochers
Fournier
Gallaway
Torsney
Tremblay
Valeri

(And the link: http://www.parl.gc.ca/37/2/parlbus/chambus/house/journals/120_2003-09-16/120votes-E.html)

All text-based, no info about who these people are representing or what exactly is being voted on, a chore to find, and only one way to view the list.

I'm ashamed to be Canadian. :(


Oh...And local LINO (Liberal in Name Only) MP Bob Kilger :puke: continued his homophobic ways (Actually, by your standards he's gay friendly, as he's voted in favour of gay rights bills that even many Dems oppose...) and voted to exclude homosexuals from marriage.

[Robbien]

1. We are a bunch of detail freaks over here.

And we have a big government with big deficits.

Canada has a non corporate owned government liberals here wish they had.

So, you have something to be proud about not embarrassed. But you are right, we would go nuts if we didn't have all the details.

[TrogL]

2. I thought it was David Kilgore

from Edmonton North.

How can you say politicians don't have an online presence. Paul Martin fills my inbox with spam and won't return my phone calls.