Rep. Rangel (D-NY-15) to endorse Gen. Clark. plus some polling information

[w4rma]

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In the poll taken for the Globe and WBZ-TV on Sept. 2-3, Clark was not well known in New Hampshire. Two-thirds of those surveyed said they either had no opinion of him or did not know about him.

Without Clark listed as a candidate, Dean was favored by 38 percent and Kerry by 26 percent. With Clark listed, Dean was favored by 31 percent and Kerry by 20 percent. The survey had a margin of error of 5 percentage points.

Separately, a national Gallup Poll conducted Sept. 8-10 showed Clark in the top tier of candidates, in double digits. Representative Richard Gephardt led with 16 percent, followed by Dean with 14 percent, Kerry at 12 percent, and Clark at 10 percent. The poll found that Clark was in first place among men, with 16 percent, but tied for sixth place among women, with 5 percent.
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Representative Charles Rangel, a senior Democrat from New York, said he expects to endorse Clark Monday. Rangel is a decorated veteran of the Korean War.

"Here is a guy with a Purple Heart, Silver Star, fought the war in Vietnam, and he is articulate, intelligent, and passionate, and you will never point your finger at him and say, `You're not a patriot,' " Rangel said. "I have a personal problem with those who supported the war."

Several Democrats who served in the Clinton administration or Bill Clinton's campaigns have helped launch the Clark campaign, including former Clinton special counsel Mark Fabiani, former Al Gore chief of staff Ron Klain, and Peter Knight, who managed Clinton's reelection campaign in 1996.
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http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2003/09/17/clark_set_to_enter_democratic_race/

[Larkspur]

1. Clark is a new face and his popularity polls will be based on a bubble

but when the campaigning gets into the marathon candidate appearance schedule, organization structure, and issue phases it will be interesting to see how Clark comes across. Already the Gallop poll http://www.gallup.com/poll/releases/pr030915.asp shows Clark with a big gender gap deficit. Wonder how he'll close that one?

[DoveTurnedHawk]

3. Clark's Not the Only One With a Gender Gap Deficit

But we'll just have to see how he does down the stretch, your doom-and-gloom pronouncements notwithstanding (which should be no surprise to anyone, as you've already admitted to a prejudice against the military).

DTH

[CWebster]

4. While it seems to be the only measure for you

What else does Clark have?

In one day his star has peaked, he has caused bad blood with Edwards, according to updates of his announcement, could brush up on speaking skills and is straight DLC, is being trashed for being the Clinton's boy and is already bombarded with questions on his past military decisions, his inconsistant position on the war and has no political experience.

No amount of bullying by the jonny-come-lately Clark troops is gonna change that. And as another woman. quit badgering Larkspur.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

9. Does She Need Protection?

And as another woman. quit badgering Larkspur.

I treat her the same as I treat anyone else who bashes Clark. Are you suggesting I treat her any differently?

What else does Clark have?

Aside from his military background? He's got the intellect to finish first in his class and become a Rhodes Scholar, he's got one of the best economic resumes in the field (Masters in Economics at Oxford, taught economics at West Point, investment banker, successful businessman, etc. etc.), he has solidly liberal positions on the issues, he is telegenic and charismatic, he is incredibly electable.

Oh, but that's all.

In one day his star has peaked, he has caused bad blood with Edwards, according to updates of his announcement, could brush up on speaking skills and is straight DLC, is being trashed for being the Clinton's boy and is already bombarded with questions on his past military decisions, his inconsistant position on the war and has no political experience.

So you say. Like I have said, we'll just have to see. I have confidence in Clark, despite naysayers like you and Larkspur.

Sorry if that bugs you!

DTH

PS: Actually, come to think of it, I'm not sorry at all.

[cally]

14. Whoa...All of you are smart, articulate, and persuasive

And I think it diminishes the power of folks to say they need protecting. Larkspur doesn't, you don't, and DTH doesn't.

I agree that Clark needs to work on the women's vote. I like him but I do recognize that he needs to quickly get some women and minority advisers. I watched him onstage and he just has to losen up a bit with women. I think he will and can but he needs to focus on it more.

DTH does not need protecting but I have to be loyal to my friend. I know DTH well and he would never attack someone because of gender or ethnicity. For your ideas and opinions yes, but he is a passionate advocate for fairness and respect for all.

:hi:

[DoveTurnedHawk]

16. Thanks Cally

:loveya:

DTH

[LightTheMatch]

2. Is there a secret race connection here?

Could it be that some of the establishment D's are somewhat afraid that Dean will fail to make a connection with minorities, and they want to get Clark out on this very early? Very, very interesting maneuvers going on, most of which we won't hear about until after the fact.

[CWebster]

5. So it is established?

Clark is the establishment's boy?

[LightTheMatch]

6. Possibly.

It certainly appears to be that way, i.e. he is the choice of a group of establishment people that don't think Dean can win the general election.

[CWebster]

7. Or, they are desperately afraid that he

can.

Remember they have been anti-Dean from the getgo, which just hardens my support more. I am not only voting against Bush, I am voting against the present Democratic power staucture that led us here.

[knowledgeispower]

8. "I have a personal problem with those who supported the war."

Wow. If a guy like Rangel will endorse Clarke, what does that tell you about his views on the Iraq war?

[DoveTurnedHawk]

10. Rangel ROCKS

He is amazing. And it also gives Clark a strong in with the Congressional Black Caucus.

DTH

[davidinalameda]

11. endorsements from politics1.com site

Congressman Marion Berry (D-AR)
US Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR)
Ex-US Senator David Pryor (D-AR)
US Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR)
Congressman Vic Snyder (D-AR)
Congressman Mike Ross (D-AR)
State Rep. Denny Sumpter (D-AR)
Ex-State Dem. Chair Mike Beatty (D-CO)
Ex-State Dem. Chair Sheila Kowal (D-CO)
Ex-US Commerce Secretary Mickey Kantor (D-DC)
Ex-US Attorney Todd Jones (D-MN)
Congresswoman Betty McCollum (D-MN)
Ex-State Dem. Chair George Bruno (D-NH)
Congressman Charlie Rangel (D-NY)
Ex-Dem. National Chair Don Fowler (D-SC)
Ex-Congressman Bob Gammage (D-TX)
State Rep. Dave Travis (D-WI

He has the entire Arkansas delegation. I also believe that a California congressman is set to endorse. Can't remember who right off hand.

I would bet that more endorsements will be coming in the next few days

[DoveTurnedHawk]

12. NICE!

I'm sure some here will try to spin this into a negative for Clark, but I am thrilled so many people see Clark's potential!

DTH

[salin]

13. very impressive list

covers a number of spectrums, demonstrating some real appeal. Very good to see.

[goobergunch]

15. That's odd

Spokesmen for Arkansas’ two senators, Blanche Lincoln and Mark Pryor, both Democrats, would not say whether their bosses are backing Clark.

http://www.hillnews.com/news/091703/clark.aspx

Politics1.com is a reliable source, though...I'll count them as Clark superdelegates unless gainsaid.