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smallprint Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:28 PM
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Video Games Simulate Waco, Columbine, 9/11
from todays nytimes:

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"9-11 Survivor" provoked an immediate outcry on the Internet. Infuriated e-mail correspondents accused the game's makers of lacking taste and moral decency by exploiting a tragedy. The game depicts only one scene, and although an online description, at www.selectparks.net/911survivor, makes it seem as if a full product were still coming, "9-11 Survivor" was never planned for commercial release.

It was created as an art-class project by three students at the University of California, San Diego, John Brennan, Mike Caloud and Jeff Cole... Mr. Cole, who examined photographs to reconstruct the scene, said, "The more I delved into it, the more personal it became."

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"Waco Resurrection," for instance, is a new computer game in which four players assume the role of the cult leader David Koresh in a virtual re-creation of his Texas compound where more than three dozen people were killed in a confrontation with federal agents. From Oct. 15 to Oct. 25 the game can be played at the Kitchen, 512 West 19th Street in Chelsea, where players must read Koresh's messianic messages aloud and attract followers to advance. The game, to be put online early in 2004, was created by a Los Angeles artists' collective, C-level. Its members intend to produce a series of games about ideologues, including the Heaven's Gate leader Marshall Applewhite and the Unabomber, Theodore Kaczynski.

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In August the five-member Dteam 3D Design Team said it would create "Doom for Columbine" over the next 18 months.
The game, to be set in virtual re-creations of Columbine High School and other schools, will be based on "Doom," the game once blamed for inspiring the Columbine shooting deaths.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/17/arts/design/17GAME.html?8hpib

whoa. that is just too messed up if you ask me.

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ShimokitaJer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:32 PM
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1. Games or art projects?
The first two look like they're at least intended to be commentaries on tragedy and popular culture. Whether they're successful or not is something I'll leave to others.

But that third one just seems utterly reprehensible. An actual game based on Columbine to make a buck is truly disgusting
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smallprint Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:36 PM
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2. i agree
the third one is over the top. it's just like pouring fuel on the fire-- kids are already playing video games and pretending they are shooting up their school-- they don't need any more encouragement!
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:41 PM
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3. I don't think it's "for a buck"...
The article calls them 'hobbyists", so it sounds like a mod to me.

In computer game terms, a "mod" is a noncommercial, fan-produced modification. This sounds like a case of black (and yes, tasteless and reprehensible) humor: making a game out of something for which the game was scapegoated.
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smallprint Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:47 PM
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6. yeah, they are all mods
the 9/11 is a mod of unreal tournament, the columbine game is a doom mod; waco, i'm not sure-- they don't say

but it is still kinda nasty-- check out the screenshots on the nytimes site-- it's hard to see how a survivor of any of these tragedies could be too happy about this stuff being put on display

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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:44 PM
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4. Well, first two are more art projects, the Colombine one is DISGUSTING
Seriously, who the hell would use the Doom engine to simulate the Colombine massacre. For kids too!

The 9/11 thing was just an art project.

The Waco thing is just weird.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 01:45 PM
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5. personally
I'm no more offended by these games than I am those WWII games taht are packed on the shelves now.

Which is to say, I'm somewhat offended, but I'll get over it.

:)
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