unsubstatiated report that Cheney is off the ticket!

[KCDem]

According to my politico friend:

That's what the fundraising circles are buzzing. This morning in a tea
fundraiser it was intoned that Lynn had decided that for health concerns,
they decided they would spend time with their children rather then the
"grueling" campaign.

Whether or not this happens or not, who knows, but apparently quite a few
big named fundraisers openly gasped and now the three major fundraising
cliques on the internet are full of buzz.

Guess we'll be finding out soon enough (to be announced at 4 pm EST. Of course, those of ya'll who say it's just to get the news off of Clark could be right. We'll see.

[bryant69]

1. It would also add some excitement

to the Bush Camp--I doubt they will announce a new VIP, but watch whoever they select to head the finding committee. They might follow the Cheney model and select themselves.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

37. Who will write Bush's speeches?

Who will help Bush find other countries on a map?

[bryant69]

46. Well,

Maybe he'll get one of those Encarta programs that are so popular. And as for his speeches, he can always buy them online. Those Term Paper places are always looking for new avenues of exploitation.

[FauxNewsBlues]

47. 4:01 EDT and nothing

Nuts and rats. I think it might actually better though for Cheney to stay. He is going to be an albatross when all his Halliburton/Energy task force finally begins getting full disclosure.

[Bandit]

92. Solid rumor has it Hillary will be Bush*'s VP

All Hillary all the time. Go MSNBC

[CMT]

2. well I've been wondering about this

they need to prop Bush up some way and Cheney is becoming a liability. If he goes my guess is that the pressure will be on Rudy or Colin to replace him.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

8. Ha! CLUE for GOP: It's a 2-headed liability!!!

Dick was supposedly the "brains" behind the dynamic duo. And no matter- PEOPLE VOTE THE TOP OF THE TICKET!!!! GORE PROVED IT!

[TreasonousBastard]

60. Good guesses.

Either one brings a lot to the party. My bet's on Rudy, if he goes along with it. Can't imagine him playing second fiddle to anyone, though. I always thought his real reason for giving up the Senate run, where he was probably a shoo-in, was because he would only be one of a hundred Senators, and couldn't get his way. He's got to be the big fish in the little pond, because he just can't work with people. Even the NYC Council had to sue him to see his budget. It would kill him to sit in a Congressional bargaining session.

I never liked him-- he's been a megalomaniacal publicity hound ever since he was a prosecutor. He did get that aura of heroism hanging around the WTC for weeks, and acting like he was the cop, fireman, or ironworker actually doing the work, and everyone seems to have bought into it. He's got a reputation as a take-charge guy and national adoration after 9/11 but arrogant prick is more how I see him.

I'd be very afraid if he's on the ticket. Very afraid. He could push the Shrub into a win, and while Cheny is a smart crook, Rudy the Righteous is yet another one with God on his side.

[West Coast Democrat]

3. Is this that secret news story from newsguyatl?

I wonder if it is.

[gratuitous]

9. I'm guessing no

He said it would happen in October, and would be of direct benefit to Howard Dean. If Cheney drops off the ticket, this would be of direct benefit to every living, breathing American and citizen of the world. It would also be a colossal admission of guilt, from which a great deal of mileage should be gotten by the Democrats!

[disgruntella]

16. roflmao

"If Cheney drops off the ticket, this would be of direct benefit to every living, breathing American and citizen of the world." Thank you for saying this, I am going to giggle for the rest of the day. But of course, you are speaking the gospel truth!

:yourock:

[calimary]

74. Only thing, though - better the devil you know.

What if they yank dick (EEEEEEEEEEUUUUWWWWWWah! What a concept!) and replace him with Rudy or somebody more palpable. Having Giuliani on the ticket would be a body blow to us Dems. That would NOT be good at all. Plus it would bring good 9-11 cred to these schmucks. Everybody loves "America's Mayor" - remember?

That would NOT be a good thing. I wouldn't be popping the champagne corks yet by any means! Better for us if cheney stays. Let's hope the PNAC and Carlyle cabals think so, too. He's their main man, after all... and chimpy's marionette master.

[ignatius]

99. Would Rudy have had access to the EPA reports that

the WH scrubbed? If so, that could be an immediate liability,heartlessly allowing his constituents to be subjected to potentially LETHAL air quality for the purpose of opening businesses.

[salin]

48. I think he said it would directly benefit

all dems (and make DU happy), but that it might also help Dean. I think the clarification was that it was not something that was a direct connect to Dean.

You are right - whatever it is was to happen in October.

[liberalhistorian]

113. But he also said it had to do with

more than just Dean, and that he was absolutely giddy over it; this would seem to fit.

[hamsterhuey]

4. would be bad

cheney is a liability not an asset. imagine what would happen if Bush added someone like Powell or Condi ...

[NewYorkerfromMass]

12. If he adds Condi he's going down faster than a lead brick

Colin might add some badly needed credibility, but then again that will mean a lot MORE 'splaining to do on Iraq if Bowel movement is on the ticket.

[kclown]

78. Replacement will be Poppy; count on it

I've always thought that this is the Restoration.

[meti57b]

112. Jebby will replace Cheney. Poppy Bush will replace Powell.

[wuushew]

15. Powell is leaving beginning of 2005

if you believe unsubstantiated reports.

[TioDiego]

5. Nixon had Spiro, now Bush has Cheney

[NewYorkerfromMass]

Hmmm.... are they setting Bush up to resign?

What if Powell is named VP and Dick steps down immediately? Oh SHIT!
That would mean if Bush then resigns they want Powell to run against Kerry!- in 04!

[AWD]

82. Why

That would mean if Bush then resigns they want Powell to run against Kerry!- in 04!

Wouldn't they want Powell to run against the Democratic primary winner? Why run him against the 3rd-place candidate????

[NewYorkerfromMass]

97. how many primaries has Dean won?

my my counting the chickens ahead of schedule is quite a bad habit.

[AWD]

107. Pot, meet kettle

Telling me not to count my chickens...when YOU were the one who claimed they'd run Powell against Kerry in '04??

Wouldn't that be counting your chickens, when you claim Kerryt will be the candidate??

Methinks you need to point that finger elsewhere.

on edit - by the way...where did I say that Dean was the winner? All I said was that Kerry would finish third. Which he just might.

[searchingforlight]

6. Who cares!!!

Maybe he'll take Arnie on as a running mate. Hell, that's about as much thought as his supporters put into who their voting for.

A good choice would be Swartzkoff (sp).

If anything, this should scare people even more since I think most of them feel Cheney is the "brains" behind the operation anyway.

[VolcanoJen]

24. Schwartzkopf?? Yikes!

Now that's some interesting speculation... hey brigadoon, don't give KKKarl any ideas!!!

:-)

[janekat]

64. No way! Schwartzkopf spoke out against the war n/a

[BrotherBuzz]

80. This Schwarzkopf!

[VolcanoJen]

7. OMG!!!!

That's exactly what I was thinking the announcement would be... I'm surprised it's not on The Daily Kos or The Note yet, though.

This will definitely eclipse Clark's announcement today. Nice try, KKKarl!

[TioDiego]

10. Poor old Cheney

He just wants to forget all the pressure of campaigning, and get back to a leisurely job at Haliburton.

</sarcasm></corn starch>

[KCDem]

11. Bush/Satan 2004

The only question is... which one is the most Satan-esque? (well, next to Cheney, that is)

Maybe I'll have to go read FreeRepublic later on today if this is all true. See their "thoughts" on the matter (or, maybe they don't have any until Rush tells them what those are). :shrug:

[TXlib]

25. Here he is

Cheney IS Satan. End of discussion.

:spank:

[amish_enforcer]

28. hey now

Satan is a right ol' fellow, don't drag his name down by association with that shrub....let's be fair! :D

[JasonBerry]

32. ???????

[indepat]

13. Well Cheney could go back to Halliburton full-time and reap billions(?)

of dollars in bonuses/deferred compensation for the incredible profitability inuring to Halliburton from the conquering and destruction of infrastructure of Iraq.

[TioDiego]

23. Hey! It was only insurance. So Stop Saying That!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

98. Legally he can't for five years having served in the executive branch

but who is Cheney to worry about legalities?

[The Night Owl]

14. Cheney too dirty to keep?

If the rumours of Cheney's departure are true, I wonder if his departure has anything to do with the upcoming release of his Energy Task Force documents.

[KCDem]

20. yeah, I wonder the same thing.

But hell, we're both assuming that people pay attention to those sorts of things.

[denverbill]

17. Ken Lay is job-hunting I hear.

We could just as well put to criminally negligent CEO's in the top two govt positions.

[XNASA]

18. Bush/Guiliani?

No way. Rudy's Pro-Choice.

Bush/Powell? No way. I think that Powell is smarter than to hitch his future to a failure. Although it would be funny to see a Bush/Colin bumpersticker.

Bush/Ashcroft is more like it. That way they can keep their base intact. BWAH!!!!

[Emboldened Chimp]

26. Ashcroft?

Somebody already suggested Bush/Satan.

Rudy's personality would overshadow Chimpy's too much. Colin won't accept it, I don't think. Condi would, though she's a liar, too.

[BurtWorm]

27. Rudi is also very easy to rattle.

And he's got some family values problems.

[salin]

30. he foolishly flaunted his fv problems

the far right can't overlook or excuse him when he did the move the girlfriend in while still married and do it in front of the cameras and kids thing.

[BurtWorm]

45. He's also an incredibly thin-skinned piece of shit when you get right

down to it. He was a saint for two weeks in the fall of 2001. But a jerk like him must remain true to his inner jerk.

[MoonAndSun]

66. Not so sure that the far-right will complain if Rudy is on the ticket,

when Arnie first announced they were appalled, but now they are all on his side because he seems to be the one that might be able to win in CA. They only care about winning, not about what the candidate says or does. They will fall in line if need be.

[calimary]

79. Screw it! The far right will swallow any scum if they think it wins votes.

Besides, they have a very convenient blind spot when it comes to family values sins among their own.

[Resistance Is Futile]

90. Shrub/Cuthulu

Shrub/Cuthulu

One will eat your wallet. The other will eat your brain.

Shrub/Cuthulu in 2004. Why vote for the lesser evil?

[FauxNewsBlues]

19. 4PM EDT?

What is supposed to happen at 4? I mean what is already scheduled? Anybody have any links up on this yet? This is huge if true.

[Cush]

21. and the press

will/would go along with the "health concerns" bs

[karlschneider]

35. Hey, I'd believe the "health" thing. He clearly suffers from terminal

mendacity.
:eyes:

[Emboldened Chimp]

22. Bet Condi would take the veep spot

though she's a lying sack of shit, too.

[idaholeft]

31. Condi's my bet

Although her credibility is in the same toilet as is cheney's. Mushroom clouds, etc.

[salin]

54. but wouldn't that blow their whole Southern Strategy

with a one (woman) two (African American) punch? They are arrogant (ala - who else are folks going to vote for)... but his DAD lost in part due to a third party candidate, I don't think they would do something that would encourage some southern ultraconservative to play Ross Perot (but pandering to the religious right). I fear that the GOP has pandered to the basest part of some voters (re: prejudices), instead of pushing those voters to mature and begin to accept diversity. That pandering would bite them in the butt if they nominated Condi.

[calimary]

83. It wouldn't be a bad guess, because

they'd think they were playing to African Americans AND women - two groups where even the rethugs recognize and admit they have serious weaknesses. So on the SURFACE this might look good to them. Problem is, CONdi has as much liar baggage on Iraq as cheney does, PLUS having dropped the ball bigtime on 9-11, so I'm not sure it'd work out so well for them in the long run. At least I hope it wouldn't. I think minorities and many women would see through it for the pathetic, plastic ploy it would be.

[MidwestTransplant]

69. Yup, mine too

n/t

[janekat]

75. No way! She's just as dirty as Cheney n/t

[salin]

29. Guess the next round of halliburton $ no-bid contract schedules

AND being set up for ridicule of the ticket by having to request the Supreme Court to rule on your political secrecy case (maybe informal word got back to him ala - no can do dicky - one political play for you is all you get) - was just a litte to much for Rove to stomach.

Wonder who they will get to serve as chair of the selection committee for the new VP - and if he like sneakydick will find - after considering all possibilities - that none are worthy - the best person would be... me.

[mkregel]

33. For some reason

The BFEE has never been that smart at picking running mates (Quayle????)

I'm wondering if they'll dig up some minor league player to fill the void...

[wuushew]

53. But Quayle is a great Amerikan hero to some

Senators Trent Lott and Christopher J. Dodd, Chairman and Ranking Member of the Senate Committee on Rules and Administration, hosted a ceremony in the Capitol Rotunda on September 10, 2003 to unveil a marble bust of Vice President Dan Quayle. Vice President Dick Cheney and President George Herbert Walker Bush were the featured speakers. Vice President Quayle, his family, and more than 300 guests attended. The bust is the latest addition to the Senate’s Vice Presidential Bust Collection, which was created in 1886 to honor vice presidents of the United States, whose duties include serving as Presidents of the Senate.


http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/art/a_three_sections_with_teasers/art_hist_home.htm

[whirlygigspin]

62. Mr. Potatoe head

[wuushew]

70. You what is ironic about that picture?

Quayle "Mr. Family Values" Brown, is in the picture with three prominent women suffragettes in the background.

[Carmerian]

34. If this really happened

...it'd be very bad news for the constupidives. This is one of those things that would fly beyond the reach of the Lie Machine. Quitting during a term of office (during a war!) or even refusing to be on the next ticket would be big enough that even the resolutely non-political would be asking questions.

[goobergunch]

36. T-6 minutes...nothing on Google News yet

I'd be suprised if this was true, but I've got nothing better to do than keep refreshing the Google page.

[seemslikeadream]

38. With Murtha talking the way he was

I think somebody is getting replaced today. He was spittin' mad. So I believe they got the goods on somebody and he told "whoever" to resign now, at that Congressional press conference held yesterday.

[caledesi]

61. Who's Murtha?

Out of the loop here.

[goobergunch]

Senior House member from Southwestern Pennsylvania

first elected in February 1974.

Ranking member on Defense Appropriations subcommittee.

Although he rarely speaks on the House floor, he is one of the most important House powerbrokers. When the House is in session, he sits in the Democratic back corner and other members come back and talk to him.

So if Murtha wants Rummy gone, it's a big deal.

[seemslikeadream]

81. Yes he is the most conservative dems around

stood by bush's war all the way, till now! He was swearing last night saying God Damn somebody is going to be held responsible. There is a thread about the press conference back aways started by me when it was on C-SPAN last night.

[caledesi]

106. Thanks. Now I know what's going on.

[janekat]

109. It really shook everyone up - they were all talking about it....n/t

[tjdee]

39. Clark scares them something awful.

They just *had* to announce it today, didn't they.

I think turd blossom is turding his pants.

"Lookie us! We have big news too! And a game! Who wants to guess who the next VP will be??"

I still think it'll be Rudy Giuliani.

[spotbird]

40. If it’s true it explains why Condi and Rummy

changed their tunes on the 9/11-Iraq link. Trying to start over and distance themselves from Cheney.

Right before the hurricane is good timing, the media will be distracted.

[Carmerian]

44. That's EXACTLY what I was just thinking!

I said in another post yesterday that I was straining to understand why Rumsfeld did something as dramatic as change his tune on Iraq and 9/11. This would certainly explain it, if it happens.

[ElementaryPenguin]

41. If true - perhaps Herr Scumsfeld won't mind stepping down to V.P.!

Perhaps Herr Cheney desires to start cashing in on all those billions he's just made for his company!

[Chef]

42. Satan Out

Ridge?

[spotbird]

43. Condi would be perfect.

She sucks under pressure. A VP candidate who cries on MTP every week would hardly say strength to the country.

[goobergunch]

49. Nothing yet...3 minutes in (n/t)

[Richardo]

50. "I'm confident that he will serve another term," Bush said.

Gee...it seems like only 10 months ago....let me take you back....back....back....

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2002-11-07-bush-cheney_x.htm

[Davis_X_Machina]

51. It matters not...

where the Godfather sits, the rackets still get run.

[KoKo]

52. Jim Baker.........he always shows up to "bail" the family out.....

That's my bet for replacement. Unless he picks Lieberman. :D

[FauxNewsBlues]

55. Not Baker or Lieberman...

Zell Miller. Bipartisanship strategery in action.

I think this is a BS rumor. It is 4:07, Drudge doesn't have this, FOX news would have this if true, and the Chimp needs Cheney.

[salin]

56. Baker, though, would drive the neocons

nuts. Viewed as too closely aligned with Poppy and the neocons have never trusted Poppy. Baker would make Poppy more influencial on jr.

[Bridget Burke]

67. Leiberman had occurred to me.....

Bringing him in as VP would be a lovely example of bipartisanship. (Also, a way of removing a nominal Democrat from the Senate.)

Then, if things got worse for W & he stepped down*, President Leiberman would surely be most generous with the pardons.

* "with the hounds of impeachment baying at his heels"--HS Thompson, referring to Nixon

[KoKo]

76. Of course Lieberman would have to pick the correct time to "announce"party

change..... After the primaries...when he discovers that at "heart, I've always been a Repuglican, and realize how much I can bring to this pResident." :D

[salin]

57. Maybe they solve the war problem without admiting failure

by bumping Rummy up to VP (see we have great faith in him)... but getting him and his incalcitrant ways out - so someone with more planning prowess can take over defense.

[CoffeePlease1947]

58. Yes, I heard this too, I think they want

Rudy or Tom Ridge. It will be scandalous in the party. Nominating a pro-choice Republican. But they don't have a choice. They want to win above all else. Florida is off the radar for winning in 2004 and they need to pick up more votes someplace.

Mike

[spotbird]

65. I hope you're right about Florida

but why do you think it is off the radar? Jeb was just reelected, they have BBV, if all else fails there are road blocks and tow trucks.

[lanlady]

59. uh, spend time with their children????

The Cheney children are grown-ups with careers of their own. What, is mom going to devote herself full-time trying to steer her lesbian daughter away from "sin"?

[Snellius]

63. Dick and Lynne have been very glum lately

Saw them yesterday in a news clip coming out of a limo. They did not look like happy campers. Did Big Time Dick get the dreaded Rove memo? Is he ready to fall on the sword? WH denials of his al-Qaeda/Hussein bs on Russert suggest they are distancing themselves. Best guess for replacement: Pool Boy Powell or Homeland Insecurity Chief Ridge.

[FauxNewsBlues]

68. I saw Lynn on tv today

Complaining that the democratic attacks on George & Dickie are the worst political smears in US history. *chortle*

[Octafish]

103. Maybe Lynn's worried she's going to jail.

Once an honest Attorney General looks into 9-11... She won't have Dick to kick around anymore — he's goin' to Gitmo.

[marshmellow]

71. All in the family

In order to get Jeb the much needed exposure and to get him out of Florida before it implodes, Jeb will be on as second banana.

[trogdor]

72. Maybe somebody let it go on purpose.

To see what the DU post count would be.

[Skwmom]

73. Bush/Bush?

You would think a party would not have the nerve to run to siblings on the same ticket but look what they've done to date.

[theHandpuppet]

77. Actually....

... such a move wouldn't surprise me. I figured that once Clark declared, making real the possiblity he could be on a Dem ticket (probably as Veep), the GOP would make a counter move -- ie, Cheney, not the most charismatic guy in the world, would remove himself for supposed "health reasons" to conveniently make way for the GOP's military face -- Colin Powell.

[BigMcLargehuge]

84. Health Reasons??? I think he's an android.

But I can't imagine Powell accepting a VP slot, but then I never thought he'd openly lie to the UN Security Council either.

Ever see the Cheney sketches on SNL? Man, those are so on the ball it's scary.

[salin]

85. Remember ROVE runs everything political

so there is this dem they were dismissing - who is showing up everywhere... raising money... and suddenly getting tons of press... even repub pundits start murmuring about underestimating...

then there is this very popular general dem - also with great appeal - both with potential crossover appeal (moderate and indys)

and a full other race - that you thought would be lifeless - but instead numerous candidates keep building support and war chests.

What to do... Cheney is a growing liability.

But WINNING is everything...

WHO would nullify the maverik crossover vote.... who on the repub side has demonstrated mass appeal...

Yep - I bet Rove is pushing John McCain (and I bet it is driving Jr crazy - as he doesn't want to have to deal with McCain's magnetism as compared to his own).... so who wins the tug of war... Rove or George?

[Ilsa]

86. Repuke Dream Ticket:

Bush and Rumsferatu.

[Ouabache]

87. So would this make him a LAME DICK ??

instead of a Lame Duck VP,oh wait, we already know he is that...

[newsguyatl]

88. i'll tell you something karl rove

would do, is put guiliani on the tix... that would be tough for the democrats...

[newsguyatl]

89. i'll tell you something karl rove

would do, is put giuliani on the ticket... that would be tough for the democrats...

[davidinalameda]

91. yes, BUT

it's common knowledge that the Bushies want Jebbie boy to continue the dynasty if Baby Bush wins next year.

They wouldn't put anyone on the ticket that would challenge Jebbie in 2008

[salin]

94. but would give a wide opening

for a rightwing social conservative third party candidate (bet Buchanon woul pick up more than a few of the social conservative votes.)

[Snellius]

93. Any guesses on a replacement? Powell? Ridge? Arnold?

Can Rummy be far behind?

[VolcanoJen]

95. You know, the more I think about this, the more I don't buy it.

This is the kind of annoucement you make in April, not in September, over a year away from the election. This is the kind of announcement you make to knock the Democratic Primary winner off the front page, not "newbie" Wesley Clark.

An announcement like this, at this time, would only make Bush appear as a worse leader than he already does... wouldn't it be a huge question to folks that Dear Leader chose such an unhealthy guy as his Veep? Taking Cheney off the ticket is a negative, and it's not something that's going to help Bush's poll numbers.

I'm not buying it. I do think it'll happen, but not until it's clear who the Dem nominee is...

[Resistance Is Futile]

96. Watch the feet

It's interesting that Rumsfelt and Rice got the new propaganda script (that there was no connection between Iraq and Sept 11) but Cheney didn't. No one in the mass media would have noticed Cheney lying unless Rump and Rice had contradicted him.

This administration is usually extremely effective at ensuring that propaganda updates are fully propagated among members of the cabal so there's probably some bigger plan at work for why Cheney spoke out of step. If he is dropped from the ticket then it is very likely that blame for Iraq will be shifted onto his shoulders to protect the rest of the cabal.

[ramblin_dave]

100. White House distances from Cheney on Iraq-9/11 link

http://famulus.msnbc.com/FamulusIntl/reuters09-17-131252.asp?reg=MIDEAST

The White House appeared to distance itself on Wednesday from comments by Vice President Dick Cheney that left the impression he saw a possible link between Saddam Hussein and the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.
''We've said all along that there's no evidence to suggest that that we've seen,'' said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

[VolcanoJen]

101. Maybe this is it? WH DISTANCES FROM CHENEY...

...ON IRAQ-9/11 LINK.

This story came over the wire just after 4:00 pm. Maybe this is what your friend was referring to... or maybe it's just a prelude...?

Here's the story:

http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=782808

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:11 p.m. ET

By Steve Holland

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House appeared to distance itself on Wednesday from comments by Vice President Dick Cheney that left the impression he saw a possible link between Saddam Hussein and the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

"We've said all along that there's no evidence to suggest that that we've seen," said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

Cheney, interviewed on Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press," had left open the possibility of a Saddam link to the attacks.

Democrats have accused the administration of creating a "false impression" at the heart of a widespread U.S. public belief that Saddam had a personal role in the attacks.

Here's the link to the LBN Thread on this subject:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=119824

[Octafish]

102. Bring back Danforth Quayle!

Then we'll have some real thrones behind the braines.

[liberalhistorian]

104. Do you think maybe this is what

Newsguy1 was referring to and teasing us with yesterday?

[Buns_of_Fire]

105. It'll be God.

Who better to tell Numnutz which side of his pants should face out? And since Bunnypants depends on God for all his decisions, who better to have in the co-pilot seat? Since God doesn't often do the earthly gig, that means that MF would, in in all appearances, be both the pResident AND the vice- pResident. Problem solved.

Besides, in the confirmation vote, who'd DARE vote against God?

I rest my case.

[Parche]

108. dickhead cheney

What happens to his undisclosed location if Cheney leaves????

[FubarFly]

111. What makes you think he's leaving.

Once the mummification is complete, they'll just seal the tomb.

[davsand]

110. Whoever goes in as VP is who we'll face in 2004.

We won't face shrub. Look for a "moderate" Repub that the guys behind the curtain can control. THAT is who will go into Unca Dick's slot.

Shrub was never intended to go this far in the term, but 9/11 carried him a lot further than they expected. Unca Dick was a sick old man when they sent him to DC to keep shrub in line. He's been pretty patient with his charge all this time, and now it is time for him to get some well deserved rest...

Ridge was the guy, I thought for a long time. Now, I'm not so sure. Jeb is the annointed one, and it does have that nice Bobby Kennedy thing going on if (------- insert deity here) forbid, anything bad should happen to martyr the chimp.

Either way, they have GOT to do something awful quick or else they have to ride shrub all the way to the polls--and I don't think they can risk two obviously rigged elections back to back.

Yep, it is just about time for Unca Dick to either step down for health reasons or else go room temp. I'm kinda glad in a way that they are letting him exit in an upright position. I'd hate for that nasty old coot to die in office and be spared seeing the whole mess tumble down.

Laura

[Booberdawg]

114. I just don't believe it. He's too addicted to the power.

He'd have to be dragged out kicking and screaming and clawing. He's the one running the show.

Naw - I don't see it .. No way.

[creativelcro]

115. You said it

The SOB is basically on life support. Why doesn't he just spend some time with his family or meditating about his useless life before he goes ? Instead of traying the ammass more and more, that is... ?
-CV