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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:14 PM
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Truth? The Pentagon Can't Handle The Truth!
So why would the pentagon be allowed to investigate itself?
To bury the truth.

Just an example from the Gulf War, but anyone who knows some history from the Vietnam War knows the Pentagon was knee deep in cover-ups and lies then also. The only way to get any truth at all is through independent investigations.
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February 28, 1997

Military Lost Logs on Chemical Use in Gulf War, Pentagon Says

By PHILIP SHENON
WASHINGTON --
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In a new report on the missing logs, the Defense Department said its investigators had conducted an exhaustive search and had been able to track down only 36 pages of the estimated 200 pages of classified logs that were supposed to record any incident in which chemical or biological weapons were detected on the battlefield.

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The committee's ranking Democrat, Sen. John Rockefeller IV of West Virginia, said that "if the Pentagon had a shred of credibility left on the Persian Gulf war illness issue, the American people would be willing to stretch their imaginations enough to believe this latest tale -- sadly, the Pentagon has squandered the trust of the American people."

The gaps in the logs include the period from March 4 through March 10, 1991, when U.S. troops blew up an Iraqi ammunition depot that is now thought to have contained tons of nerve gas and other chemical weapons.

The 36 pages, which had previously been made public, demonstrate in meticulous detail how U.S. commanders received and disregarded several reports of chemical detections during the war.
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http://www.turnerhome.org/jct/Clips/0228-nyt.htm


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Washington - Persian Gulf war veterans told a House subcommittee yesterday that they had been exposed to Iraqi chemical agents during Operation Desert Storm and criticized the Pentagon for denying their complaints.

"The Pentagon knew from Day One that chemical weapons were used," said Marine Corps Maj. Randy Herbert. "They have a reason to cover the truth. They have done so in the past with World War II and also with Agent Orange in Vietnam. They don't want to be held responsible for all the people who are now sick and the ones who have already died."

Herbert's words, difficult to understand because he has Lou Gehrig's disease, were relayed by his wife, Kim, and father, Lloyd, to the House Subcommittee on Human Resources and Intergovernmental Relations. He blames the disease, a nerve disorder, on low-level chemical exposure. ...

Earlier yesterday, the head of U.S. operations in the 1991 war, Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf, repeated on NBC's "Today" that there is no evidence the Iraqis used chemical weapons and emphasized that "there was no cover-up on the part of the military." ...

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http://www.webcom.com/~lpease/collections/denied/gulfwar.htm
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:24 PM
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1. Rev Jim Wallis
has been talking about how this country is now run, and firmly believes it is being run by the Pentagon, for the Pentagon, giving the maximum benefit to the Pentagon.

I think he's got a point.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:52 PM
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2. Transcript: McKinney's Exchange with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld,
http://www.copvcia.com/free/ww3/031505_mckinney_transcript.shtml

Transcript of Representative Cynthia McKinney's Exchange with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Richard Myers, and Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) Tina Jonas, March 11th, 2005

Sec. of Defense Rumsfeld in House Hearing on FY06 Dept. of Defense Budget
Chairman Representative Duncan Hunter (R-CA) and witnesses Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and JCS Chairman General Richard Myers hold a House Hearing on the FY 2006 Budget for the Department of Defense and Military Services.
3/11/2005: WASHINGTON, DC: 2 hr. 5 min.

CMK: Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (D-GA)
DR: Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld
RM: Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Richard Myers
TJ: Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) Tina Jonas
DH: Chairman Representative Duncan Hunter (R-CA)

25:20
CMK: Thank you Mr. Chairman. Mr. Secretary, I watched President Bush deliver a moving speech at the United Nations in September 2003, in which he mentioned the crisis of the sex trade. The President called for the punishment of those involved in this horrible business. But at the very moment of that speech, DynCorp was exposed for having been involved in the buying and selling of young women and children. While all of this was going on, DynCorp kept the Pentagon contract to administer the smallpox and anthrax vaccines, and is now working on a plague vaccine through the Joint Vaccine Acquisition Program. Mr. Secretary, is it policy of the U.S. Government to reward companies that traffic in women and little girls?

That's my first question. My second question, Mr. Secretary: according to the Comptroller General of the United States, there are serious financial management problems at the Pentagon, to which Mr. Cooper alluded.

Fiscal Year 1999: $2.3 trillion missing.

Fiscal Year 2000, $1.1 trillion missing.

And DoD is the number one reason why the government can't balance its checkbook. The Pentagon has claimed year after year that the reason it can't account for the money is because its computers don't communicate with each other.

My second question, Mr. Secretary, is who has the contracts today, to make those systems communicate with each other? How long have they had those contracts, and how much have the taxpayers paid for them?

Finally Mr. Secretary, after the last Hearing, I thought that my office was promised a written response to my question regarding the four wargames on September 11th. I have not yet received that response, but would like for you to respond to the questions that I've put to you today. And then I do expect the written response to my previous question - hopefully by the end of the week.

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 05:28 PM
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5. Okay, I'll give this a kick, too. I know many have talked about .....
..... Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney as a nut. I won't. Her questions are as valid as any I've heard from anyone. While I'll reserve judgment on her (obvious) theory about things, I defend and commend her asking them.

Rumsfeld, on the other hand, is a fucking shitwad. He won't answer what he doesn't wanna answer and that's that. Sadly, the Rovians have painted McKinney as a nut and the folksy 'news' folk don't wanna touch her. And even her fellow Dems don't seem to want to support her, likely for the same reason ... nuttiness by association. Folk them all.

Well, its too fucking bad, people .... she's a duly elected Congressperson who has every right to ask these long unanswered questions. As much right to ask them as DeLay has to say what he wants and as Pelosi to say what she wants. This woman has been hung out to dry one time too many.

Flame away ..........
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 04:28 PM
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3. kick
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 05:08 PM
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4. I "hate" putting together
a post and wanting to kick it.
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