Nightmare scenario!

[SweetZombieJesus]

Cheney resigns, citing "health reasons", Powell accepts slot as new VP, allowing the Repubs to paint any Democratic contender as racist for criticizing his virtuous "black" Vice President, AND Republicans get added boost for having the first "black" Vice President in history. Rumsfeld disciple is appointed new Secretary Of State, completing the PNACers domination of foreign policy.

[hunter]

1. Powell pardons Bush...

Ford and Nixon all over again...

That's been my prediction for a long time.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

4. I've just been tossing "Cheney IS Agnew" around in my head.

[Ouabache]

5. They can't appoint Powell VP

Just won't happen. As soon as Cheney is gone, for whatever reason, the heat is on Bush and they will need a "caretaker" in the VP slot for Bush's fall.

Think Jerry Ford, someone the Dems can actually stomach.
Richard Lugar ?

[goobergunch]

17. Dems had a majority in 1973

giving them an effective veto. They don't now.

[Sinistrous]

28. My first guess for bush's VP was Condosleeza, but

your post made me think: The Dems put up four stars (Clark), so the retrogs counter with their four stars (Powell).

[SweetZombieJesus]

30. Then the Repubs slime Clark with the "war criminal" shit

And the Dems either:

a.) respond with My Lai massacre, get called racists/conspiracy kooks
b.) don't respond and it sticks, even though it's complete bullshit.

Lose/lose

[NoKingGeorge]

35. The 'money-creatures' behind the curtain

The money-creatures propping up this nightmare are only too happy to play 3-card monte with the positions.
Powell is not serving another term (he is unsupportive of cabals goals). Cheney can still 'guide' aWol from behind the curtain. They can and will put anyone they want up as VP, Baker, Lott, whoever.

[Skwmom]

2. Dems counter with a top notch black VP candidate.

At least that's what I would do.

[ComerPerro]

3. Mosley Braun

Would be a perfect choice for anyones campaign. Sadly, though, I don't think any of the candidates would be interested in a VP position.

The worst thing about the now ten Dems running? I want them all!

[soleft]

6. I don't know, I think they'd go for America's Mayor

Except the right wing religious types would have a cow. Maybe Arnold is actually a litmus test for Rudy.

[dusty64]

13. The American Taliban

will have a tantrum and it wouldn't take much to take the shine off st. rudy. He has left NYC in a horrendous mess and he is NOT a person of character.

[David Zephyr]

7. No So Far Fetched. Dick Morris Mentioned This Just Days Ago.

SweetZombieJesus you may not be far off the mark.

[Clete]

8. It still doesn't change the fact that all these

firsts in history have been appointed and not elected. This is a very fascist way of gaining power without the votes of the electorate determining who should be in office.

[SweetZombieJesus]

10. I'm not saying they'd be GOOD firsts

But to Moron Americans, the Republicans would forever be enshrined in history as the party to have the first black VP. It doesn't matter to most people that Bush isn't even the real President, the conventional wisdom would be "See? The Republicans really do care about minorities! What a historic and great thing this is!"

And people would swallow it hook, line, and sinker. And we'd be sunk.

[dusty64]

9. powell is as big

a liar as the rest of them. The blood of thousands is also on his hands, he is NO hero.

[SweetZombieJesus]

12. Too many of you are missing my point

WE know that, but do the 70% who believed the bullshit about Iraq being linked to 9-11? If they're dumb enough to believe that without even a forged document to support it, do you think they wouldn't be distracted by a hollow stunt like appointing Powell as VP?

[dusty64]

15. I won't argue

the stupidity of many citizens. Seems to me a lot of freeper types would actually have a problem with a President of color.

[SweetZombieJesus]

19. They'd still vote for him though. He's an Uncle Tom and they know it

They know he knows his "place", so I doubt they'd have too much of a problem with it.

By the way, I never said anything about Teflon George resigning and getting a pardon from Powell. If they carry out this scenario, they won't need to, they'll just pretend to clean house and use Powell as their new point man for disinformation. Moron-Americans seem to still seperate him from the rest of the pack, probably out of fear of being called racist for calling him on his lies.

[disgruntella]

18. well, i can understand how the stunt would be good pr

But would it really win them the 2004 election? Would a a Bush/Powell ticket in 2004 really acquire *more* votes than a Bush/Cheney ticket? (I don't have any answers, just questions, I guess?)

edit - clarification

[SweetZombieJesus]

20. Ask an average Joe what he thinks of Powell. Then ask what he thinks of

Cheney. In my experience, for whatever insane reason, people seem to afford Powell some sort of respect they don't always give to Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the rest of the Gang Who Couldn't Shoot Straight. Then there's the race card factor.

It's just the kind of non-story the media would jizz themselves over. It would be an unending parade of Repub hucksters decrying the Dems racism in impugning the credibility of a "war hero" like Powell, and fawning all over the Repubs as the "Party Of Lincoln".

It would be the political equivalent of a Madonna video. There's no real substance, but lots of shiny lights and knee jerk "issues" that don't require people to actually think things through.

This is the only scenario I can think of them employing that would actually be nearly foolproof. Anything else would fail miserably.

[disgruntella]

23. yeah, that is depressing, but certainly possible

Of course, Powell can be quoted on Iraq/AlQaeda too, from his February presentation to the U.N.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/02/05/sprj.irq.powell.transcript.09/index.html
"But what I want to bring to your attention today is the potentially much more sinister nexus between Iraq and the al Qaeda terrorist network, a nexus that combines classic terrorist organizations and modern methods of murder. Iraq today harbors a deadly terrorist network headed by Abu Musab Zarqawi, an associate and collaborator of Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda lieutenants."

I just wanted to throw that into the mix; not to discredit your theory, which unfortunately is a nightmare scenario. Thanks a lot! ;)

[SweetZombieJesus]

25. That doesn't really contradict the official story as of today

The official meme today was:

Iraq didn't have anything to do with 9-11, but they DO have ties to Al Qaeda.

So even when they're admitting the "truth", they stick a new lie in there to justify their bullshit war.

[disgruntella]

27. oh, quit bursting my bubble!

;) I know, it's all about word games with those bastards.

[goobergunch]

11. Scary, but possible

All you have to do is add Gingrich as Sec'y of State. :scared:

Note: A VP appointment must be approved by a majority of both houses of Congress.

[SweetZombieJesus]

14. What kind of majority?

Simple majority, or 3/4ths? If it's just a simple plurality majority, we'd be virtually powerless to stop it.

[goobergunch]

16. Simple majority

Amendment XXV

<snip>

Section 2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.amendmentxxv.html

And I really don't see many people brave enough to vote against Powell.

[Brucey]

21. It's a rosy scenario for the repugs, except

Powell would not be acceptable to the far right, Chimpys money supply, and Powell might not even agree to it (Maybe he's had as much as he can take from this crowd). Tons of people in the good ole USA won't vote for a black person anyway.

[PeakOil2008]

22. You underestimate Black Voters. They won't be THAT easily fooled.

They don't like Bush, PERIOD. The Bush Republicans running "Aunt Jemimah" (a.k.a. Condi Rice) or "Uncle Ben" (a.k.a. Colin Powell) as VP won't do anything but make Bush look even more hypocritical, when he has challenged affirmative action, cut funding for head start and crapped all over minorities who make up significant portions of the poor and working classes. Even at best, it could only be an insincere gesture on the part of an administration built up upon a foundation of insincerity and lies. It will do nothing to take voters minds off the economic issues, not to mention the quagmire in Iraq that spirals out of control more and more by the day.

[SweetZombieJesus]

24. I'm not talking about black voters

Black voters, in general, are much more questioning and suspicious of the government, as well they should be as long as elite white men are the majority leadership.

The people who would buy into this, however, are the white people who are anti-affirmative action, not because they're necessarily racist, but because they've bought into the crap notion that we've all been equals since 1965 and the minorities just whine too much. They'd go nuts for a VP Powell and see at as confirmation of all the garbage propaganda about the liberal media unfairly painting the Republicans as racists.

And even the most racist Republicans would still vote for Bush, and they'd become the most vocal "Support The President, Traitors!" people because they'd be scared shitless about something happening to him and Powell becoming President. I mean, honestly, where are they gonna go if not the Republican party?

[janekat]

26. Oh my God - you're right!!! Ever thought of being a consultant?

You are devilishly brilliant.

[SweetZombieJesus]

29. Fortunately, my propensity for evil plans is outstripped by my actual

compassion and progressive ideals. There's not enough money in the world for those bastards to get me to slip Lady Liberty a roofie.

[SweetZombieJesus]

31. And for what it's worth, I hope I'm wrong about this

I hope they're so arrogant that they don't toss Cheney overboard, even if it's just for show, and keep plowing on as if they're untouchable. Then the inevitable defeat will be that much sweeter.

But when this scenario occured to me, I was legitamitely scared, not only that they could do it, but that I actually thought of such a Machiavellian scheme.

[SweetZombieJesus]

32. kick

For anyone who didn't read this yesterday.

[Bandit]

33. You forget that we're talking Republicans here

They would not allow a Black man to be a heartbeat away from the presidency. Powell is okay as a show piece but he really has no authority otherwise why has Rummy been acting as Secretary of State as well as Sec of Def. It has been Rummy that's been doing most of the traveling and talking along with Pearle and Wolfowitz. Powell has been assigned to the waay back bench.

[SweetZombieJesus]

34. The Vice President is still a show position

Powell could just as easily still be their show pony, they'd just ratchet up the security about 110% in order to ensure that they wouldn't lose Bush and get a Negro President.

You really think their racism would trump their greed and desire to win?