Rove fears Wesley and is setting up Cheney resignation/dump

[homelandpunk]

If you think it was miscommunication that Cheney said what he said and Bush contradict him the next day, on such a SERIOUS issue, then you don't know Rove. Cheney (or maybe Rove himself) brought up the need to forcefully go into an "in your face" lie mode about the Iraq/9-11 (non)connection, and Rove said "you bet! Get on with our TV-boy Timmy on Sunday and do it!"
Cheney does it, and while watching Timmy with chimpy on Sunday morning, Rove leans over to Bush and says "Dick is really out of control on this. You need to say something...I'll set up something on Monday so you can publicly distance yourself from this. But don't bring this up to Dick until afterwards."
Next, he sends out signals to Powell that something might be going down.
Rove knows he HAS to have Powell now to defeat Clark. This WILL happen. Actually it BETTER happen, or Clark may face assassination (as in real bullets) from the Bush junta.
So I am kind of torn on this one. I want Wes Clark to reach old age, but a Bush/Powell ticket would win and Powell would be sidelined effectively after '05. Then the darkness would fall.

[madaboutharry]

1. Wow

Need to send hubby out for another roll of Reynolds Wrap!

[Andy_Stephenson]

3. Here no need to send him out

[PaDUer]

7. Guess Clark wouldn't

cooperate and go to their side when they "heard" he was going to run for president..

[homelandpunk]

11. wow spelled backwards...

spells NAIVE, just like Evian does.
Was it the assassination theory by the current right-wing LIHOP/MIHOP power grabbing fascist illegally installed coup liars that was too far over the edge for you? You're right, they would NEVER try something like THAAAAAAT. Silly me.
I suggest saran wrap for you.

[Eloriel]

15. Naaah. He's mostly right

except for the Bush/Powell predicted win.

Powell wouldn't pull enough of the African-American vote to make a difference and he'd lose some of his racist base. Besides, there's no way to know if Powell would even accept, tho given how "bought" he really is maybe he would.

Eloriel

[liberalmuse]

2. You've got something there...

AWOL Bush wouldn't stand against a General. With Powell, I see the 'pubs thinking they can get the black vote (even though, technically, Powell is a lily white yes-man), and the moderate vote as well. Nevermind Powell has totally blown any illusions he possesses leadership skills. Hopefully, Powell will save what little is left of his dignity and bow out, as he planned to do anyway in '04.

[Frances]

4. I think Powell would be put in to

get the moderate vote. Will it work? Not nearly as well today as it would have a year ago.

[graham67]

8. But why....

would he run on a ticket now? He wasn't interested in 2000, and now he's all but been castrated by the administration.

[kysrsoze]

5. I think the strategy is going to backfire bigtime

We've got them all talking now and contradicting each other. It's hilarious. If Cheney goes down, they all do. I believe this for two reasons.

1. This would be a HUGE blow to the administration's credibility. Other questions will undoubtedly come up, and they'll all be associated with the lies.

2. I can almost guarantee that Cheney will not go down alone. He will take people with him.

[The Night Owl]

6. Why would Bush damage Cheney?

If Bush or his handlers want Cheney out of the 2004 race, they could easily say that Cheney needs to step down for reasons related to his heart condition. There would be no need for them to stir up controversy by claiming that Cheney is out of control.

[PaDUer]

10. He's going to continue to raise

that hand..Heil!

[homelandpunk]

13. because Bush is not in the loop on this, and

Rove is manipulating it. While my scenario I conjured up is fiction, the point of it is not. Rove is playing them. Dicky might know he is being played after today, but chimpy is unaware.
Rove is terrified of Clark. Terrified. Do you think it was coincidence this stuff comes up at the same time Clark makes it official?
And they cannot just out of the blue say Cheney's heart is bad...it has not been in the news. The last heart news on Cheney had Bush re-affirm after that last episode that Cheney will absolutely remain on the ticket for '04...if they pulled what you suggest, it would damage Bush's faux "faithfulness, integrity" good ol' boy hype.

[frank frankly]

9. great theory

kick

[John_H]

12. Good call. Never thought about it that way.

Wouldn't put it past ol' KKKarl to bring in a "centrist." If Dick goes, you said it first.

[billbuckhead]

14. Colon Pile is overrated.The Dems could counter him.

But I am worried about Clark's health. It's probably more dangerous being a threat to the BFEE than being in the former Yugoslavia.

[Dob Bole]

16. Powell as VP would backfire....

It would turn off the racists that Bush needs to win, with the prospect of a black President and all that...

[Mz Pip]

17. Powell might not accept VVP but

maybe Condoleezza would. Condi is much more a Hawk than Powell and much more line line with the rest of the ushCo neocons.

MzPip
:dem:

[Eloriel]

18. THE OTHER HALF of the plan --

and I sure as hell wish I'd have bookmarked the thread -- is that as some DUer heard someone on TV say yesterday, their goal is to pull out of Iraq by mid-2004.

If they get all their oil deals done and can count on minimal security for the oil, they won't much care about what state they leave Iraq in. And besides, who cares about Iraq? Only Iraqis, and who listens to them? Nobody here even reports on "them," so leaving it in shambles will be a perfectly safe thing to do.

So, an attractive VP (I'm not convinced it would be Powell -- frankly Condi strikes me as a better likelihood but even that might not be the plan, if they HAVE a pick right now), and out of Iraq.

They'll find ways to eliminate or neutralize as much of all the other criticism as they can, mark my words.

Eloriel