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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:39 PM
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So is Clark a liberal, moderate?
It is difficult to see where he stands with no voting record! He did say he liked Justice Breyer on the High Court. I love Justice Breyer! Any clues on his political leanings?

Also, does anyone know what the link is to the web site that has you take a questionaire and then rates your political proximity to the candidates?
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IranianDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:40 PM
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1. He's as liberal as Dean is.
And definitely to the left of Kerry, Edwards and Lieberman.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:46 PM
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7. Kerry has a lifetime ADA rating of 93% just so you know
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 11:50 PM by wuushew
saying someone is to the left of a 90+ ADA canidate is a very strong statement.


Of course ADA ratings do not take the Iraq war into consideration as do we, so a person like Dean has become liberal via opposition to war.
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:03 AM
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10. ADA Ratings Mean Nothing
The ADA deliberately excludes important votes to make Democrats look better. The Democrats could all drift significantly to the right, and I'm certain the ADA would adjust its system to make them look good.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:30 AM
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12. Well there is always the American Conservative Union
ACU Ratings for Senator Kerry:
Year 2002 20
Year 2001 4
Lifetime 6


ACU Ratings for Senator Kennedy:
Year 2002 0
Year 2001 4
Lifetime 3

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:41 PM
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2. From the very little I have seen
and granted, this is all after he began to be considered as a candidate, he seems pretty liberal.

He is no Wellstone or Kucinich, but hardly anyone is.

Moderate liberal?
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IranianDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:42 PM
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3. Youre right.
He is a liberal guy but not extremely leftist.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:44 PM
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4. good
What does he think about church and state? I don't think I seen anything on that issue on draftweselyclark.
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TakebackAmerica Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:45 PM
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6. Two words.
A Visionary.
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:38 AM
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13. Clark on church and state
June 27, "Sound off with Sasha" radio show:

Caller: ... There are a couple of blanks that I need to have filled in by you, sir, if you could. And those are a couple of issues regarding the church-state issue, separation of church and state, and the women’s issues. We’ve been… Our present administration is taking us far right in the areas of church-state separation and we’ve been with the faith based initiatives and the voucher systems, etc. have… ....

Sasha: ...And a lot of people feel that on the other hand here we are swinging a little bit more to the other side with all the faith based institutions, and I think that that is what this gentleman was trying to bring up.


WKC: Well, I am concerned like many people are. I grew up believing that the whole… one of the basic principles in our country is that we would keep church and state separate. And this is because everyone is entitled to freedom of religion, and that is why people came to America in the first place.

Sasha: Yes.

WKC: And we learned that in order to have freedom of religion, you’ve got to protect the state from the church. You don’t want an established church that we’re all being taxed to support, or at least that’s the way it was put then. But it’s a little more complicated than that. I think that it is a wonderful thing for people to have values and religious, their religious faith, and I certainly have mine. But I think that it is better for our democracy and better for our religion if we keep the two separate.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:56 AM
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15. well
that doesn't go into very many specifics but it sounds good so far. Vouchers? Faith-Based? Pledge? Ten Commandments?
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:45 PM
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5. http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=2004Elections
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:48 PM
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8. Moderate Liberal
On CNN tonight he said that he is pro-guns, but also is pro-affirmative action, anti-Iraq war but thinks we have to follow through now that we are in there, pro-choice, and probably thinks seperation of chruch and state should be exactly as it is stated.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:49 PM
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9. I read somewhere here in DU
that he's fiscally conservative, socially moderate.......

Hawkeye-X
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friendofbenn Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:24 AM
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11. just the kind of guy we need
n/t
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rosalux Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:52 AM
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14. We don't need a fiscal conservative if it means cutting programs
We need job programs, health care, social security, etc.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:40 AM
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18. actually he is more liberal than Clinton on economy
on economics. He is pro-FAIR trade, critical od free trade and has endorsed it, as well as certain protectionist tax credits to keep buisness from going overseas.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:02 AM
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16. How about a Progressive Moderate
IS that so bad??
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:38 AM
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17. Not a wellstone
but definetly a liberal and a very, very smart one at that.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 02:47 AM
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19. In his own words
Edited on Thu Sep-18-03 02:54 AM by Donna Zen
Looking ahead 100 years, the United States will be defined by our environment, both our physical environment and our legal, Constitutional environment. America needs to remain the most desirable country in the world, attracting talent and investment with the best physical and institutional environment in the world. But achieving our goals in these areas means we need to begin now. Environmentally, it means that we must do more to protect our natural resources, enabling us to extend their economic value indefinitely through wise natural resource extraction policies that protect the beauty and diversity of our American ecosystems - our seacoasts, mountains, wetlands, rain forests, alpine meadows, original timberlands and open prairies. We must balance carefully the short term needs for commercial exploitation with longer term respect for the natural gifts our country has received. We may also have to assist market-driven adjustments in urban and rural populations, as we did in the 19th Century with the Homestead Act.

Institutionally, our Constitution remains the wellspring of American freedom and prosperity. We must retain a pluralistic democracy, with institutional checks and balances that reflect the will of the majority while safeguarding the rights of the minority. We will seek to maximize the opportunities for private gain, consistent with concern for the public good. And the Clark administration will institute a culture of transparency and accountability, in which we set the world standard for good government. As new areas of concern arise - in the areas of intellectual property, bioethics, and other civil areas - we will assure continued access to the courts, as well as to the other branches of government, and a vibrant competitive media that informs our people and enables their effective participation in civic life. And even more importantly, we will assure in meeting the near term challenges of the day - whether they be terrorism or something else - that , we don't compromise the freedoms and rights which are the very essence of the America we are protecting.

If we are to remain competitive we will have to do more to develop our "human potential." To put it in a more familiar way, we should help every American to "be all he or she can be." For some this means only providing a framework of opportunities - for others it means more direct assistance in areas such as education, health care, and retirement security. And these are thirty year challenges - educating young people from preschool until they are at their most productive, helping adults transition form job to job and profession to profession during their adult lives; promoting physical vigor and good health through public health measures, improved diagnostics, preventive health, and continuing health care to extend longevity and productivity to our natural limits; and strengthening retirement security, simply because it is right; first for our society to assure that all its members who have contributed throughout their lifetimes are assured a minimal standard of living, and secondly to free the American worker and family to concentrate on the challenges of today. Such long term challenges must be addressed right away, with a new urgency.

We have a solid foundation for meeting these challenges in many of the principles and programs already present today. They need not be enumerated here, except to argue for giving them the necessary priorities and resources. We can never ensure that every one has the same education, or health care, or retirement security, nor would we want to do so. But all Americans are better off when we ensure that each American will have fundamental educational skills and access to further educational development throughout their lives; that each American will have access to the diagnostic, preventive and acute health care and medicines needed for productive life, as well as some basic level of financial security in his or her retirement.

To do this we will have to get the resources and responsibilities right. In the first place, this means allocating responsibilities properly between public and private entities. Neither government nor "the market" are universal tools - each must be used appropriately, whether the issues be in security, education, health or retirement. Then we must reexamine private versus public revenues and expenditures. We need to return to the aims of the 1990's when we sought to balance our federal budget and reduce the long term public debt. Finally, it means properly allocating public responsibilities to regulate, outsource, or operate. This means retaining government regulation where necessary to meet public needs, and balancing the federal government's strengths of standardization and progressive financing with greater insights into the particular needs and challenges that State and local authorities bring.

As we work on education, health care, and retirement security we must also improve the business climate in the United States. This is not simply a matter of reducing interest rates and stimulating demand. Every year, this economy must create more than a million new jobs, just to maintain the same levels of employment, and to reduce unemployment to the levels achieved in the Clinton Administration, we must do much more immediately. This is in part a matter of smoothing the business cycle,with traditional monetary and fiscal tools, but as we improve communications and empower more international trade and finance, firms will naturally shift production and services to areas where the costs are lower. In the near term we should aim to create in America the best business environment in the world - using a variety of positive incentives to keep American jobs and businesses here, attract business from abroad, and to encourage the creation of new jobs, principally through the efforts of small business. These are not new concerns, but they must be addressed and resourced with a new urgency in facing the increasing challenges of technology and free trade. And labor must assist, promoting the attitudes, skills, education and labor mobility to enable long overdue hikes in the minimum wage in this country.

http://www.americansforclark.com/vision.php
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