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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:41 PM
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I'm actually scared at how scared Chimpy is of Clark
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 11:43 PM by John_H
Clark's been in the race for less than 24 hours and already KKKarl's got his media pals going a mile a minute--even more viciously than they went after Dean. Chimpy does a full "no iraq/911 connection" blitz to fend off Clark's charges and set up a he said she said deal. There's a mole a minute on every message board I read (rivaling the early days of the war), and, hell, there's even a trial baloon about dumping Tricky Dick for a "centrist" or a general. I've never seen anything like this. Not this fast.

I've never donned a tinfoil hat in my life, but I can't help but wonder what might happen if Clark takes the lead in a head to head poll.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:44 PM
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1. It seems like...
Election 2000 was the coup, and 2004 is the counter-coup.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:44 PM
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2. I think some of it is coincidental
Dean, Kucinich, and Graham, among others, have been hammering the President about his lies regarding the Iraq - 9/11 link. So I think it was overall damage control.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:47 PM
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3. Yuo should see some of the AOL boards
The lies are flying fast and furious...

If we have to judge a candidate for how baldy maligned and attacked he is... Clark is even more solid than Dean...

Now here is the real nightmare, Dean \ Clark, Clark \Dean, at least from the Rovian POV
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:47 PM
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4. They're Not
They're afraid of being someone's prison bitch after 2004.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:08 AM
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5. remember
clark is very intelligent,top of his class west point and a rhodes scholar..chimp boy could never ever debate him. and i think clark has the balls to call chimp boy out on his awol during nam,maybe not in pupblic but those after dinner chats with the veterans. they have alot to fear in clark- he has the miltary behind him, which is something bush doesn`t have, and he`s not afraid to stand up to rove.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:15 AM
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6. Here is a puretee FACT:
I have a buddy who is a retired Brig. Gen. He dealt with personnel issues for a good chunk of his career. The Old Soldier's Network knows full well Chimpy's military record, and they ain't impressed, to say the least. The problem is that none of it, and I mean NONE OF IT can be documented.

Chimpy's records got scrubbed clean. Got dissapeared. They're gone.

These guys are furious.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:31 AM
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8. I think aWol is touchable on this.
Bringing the media hammer down will be tricky, and its too early, IMO. But I worked in personnel, too, and there are ways.
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Dagaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:22 AM
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7. Rove wants Dean
His plan has been working to perfection until now with the robots blindly aligning with Dean. Clark is a different animal who actually cares about Terrorism which makes him formidable. Rove wants Bush to be the anti-Terror President and against Dean this is soooo easy but not against Clark.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:38 AM
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9. Rove SAYS he wants Dean.
He says that because Dean was leading.

Wait until Rove says he wants to face Clark.

Here is the truth about Rove: He doesn't want anyone. And quite frankly, I can appreicate his position.

Imagine that you are the campaign and political strategist for a guy who sleeps eleven hours a day, is an alcoholic, is a functional illiterate, can't string together a choerent sentence without the aid of flashcards, has a cocaine problem, and is scared to death of press conferences.

Now, honestly, do you want to face someone with a lot of Democratic support?
Fuck no.

So what do you do? You bluff, and say that you have him all figured out.
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 12:42 AM
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10. Ike warned us of the Military/Industrial Combine(Complex)
Well, we've seen the industrial side. Does this mean just one more and we're safe again?
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:35 AM
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11. The GOP are scared shitless
They know Clark will spank them.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 01:54 AM
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12. Sharks circling on every network
What scares them about Clark? I think it's that he has done all the things Bush has only pretended to do for a photo op. It turns out there is a difference.
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