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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 02:14 AM
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A Little Something I Ran On Yahoo Earlier
I compiled this out of being bored this evening and sick and tired of listening to the neocons prattling on about what they define "is" a lie and such. so far haven't had anyone able to refute it. wanted to see if there was anything I'm missing I can hit on, just to make it bullet proof. thanks

what is the war in iraq about?

its not about WMD. the report from david kay has been indefinately shelved http://sify.com/news/international/fullstory.php?id=13250836

its not about 9/11 and al quaida, since bush just told you its not about it http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030918/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_saddam_8

its not about saddam sponsoring terror, he gave 25k to families of suicide bombers, meanwhile bush's own business partners actively finance hamas and al quaida http://www.judicialwatch.org/1685.shtml

we know its not about the taliban and al quaida, bush has had no problems supporting them in the past
"Enslave your girls and women, harbor anti-U.S. terrorists, destroy every vestige of civilization in your homeland, and the Bush administration will embrace you. All that matters is that you line up as an ally in the drug war, the only international cause that this nation still takes seriously. That's the message sent with the recent gift of $43 million to the Taliban rulers of Afghanistan, the most virulent anti-American violators of human rights in the world today. The gift, announced last Thursday by Secretary of State Colin Powell, in addition to other recent aid, makes the U.S. the main sponsor of the Taliban and rewards that "rogue regime" for declaring that opium growing is against the will of God. So, too, by the Taliban's estimation, are most human activities, but it's the ban on drugs that catches this administration's attention.
Never mind that Osama bin Laden still operates the leading anti-American terror operation from his base in Afghanistan, from which, among other crimes, he launched two bloody attacks on American embassies in Africa in 1998."
http://www.robertscheer.com/1_natcolumn/01_columns/052201.htm

we know its not because saddam had mass graves from 1988, when reagan and the GOP actively armed and supported him (picture worth a thousand words: ) http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/08/18/national/main519036.shtml

we know its not because saddam was a threat to his region, since even turkey scoffed at the war, the saudis could care less, the only people who were really worried was the fundamentalist theocracy of kuwait. http://www.hrw.org/wr2k1/mideast/kuwait.html

we know its not because saddam was an imminent threat, he would need WMD to do that, not balsa drones that fell apart. “But the fact remains that Iraq has not attacked the United States, nor has Bush presented the American people with any specific, credible evidence that Hussein is linked to the September 11 terrorist attacks. So launching a war against Iraq is unnecessary for self-defense, and therefore totally unjustifiable.” http://www.lp.org/press/archive.php?function=view&record=626

we know its not because of UN resolutions, which are the decision of the security council to enforce how the security council sees fit by THEIR guidelines and the UN Charter http://www.un.org/Docs/sc/unsc_functions.html http://www.un.org/aboutun/charter/

so what was it about again?

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 02:17 AM
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1. Great work putting all this together
Its a good read.

:dem:
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 02:21 AM
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2. gracias
I just got sick of the neocon "blabber blabber CLINTONS COCK BLAH BLAH" incessant blame game.

the typical, well if I point my finger and stomp my feet people will forget I'M the one to blame, tactics.

I figured, well hell. you wanna fight motherfucker, lets rumble.

hit them with the battering ram and be done with it.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 02:34 AM
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3. Good, informative post.
Thanks for this. Puts the damn war in perspective, doesn't it?
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 02:37 AM
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4. Yeah
I specifically went with the libertarian reading on imminent threat. they have a pretty strict reading of the constitution and all the traditionalism sometimes, but no one can accuse them of being liberals or leftists. some of the harshest criticism I saw before the war and after has come from the libertarians and the cato institute. but putting it against that backdrop I figured would only make it stronger. add to it the abuses the kuwaiti government does against its own people and the fact its a fundamentalist regime also. not to mention the strong connections between saudi arabia and hamas. its time to just throw down the gauntlet and call out bushies on lie and spin after lie and spin. about the mass graves. about WMD. about bush's dealings with fundamentalists. just like I said, hammer them with it over and over. I just wanna make sure its bullet proof.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 02:48 AM
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5. Trophy War.
Similar to trophy wife and trophy ranch and trophy SUV. Image enhancement.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 02:52 AM
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6. Does anyone know what chimp "ranches"
besides bullshit?


and can he even DRIVE that truck of his on the road, after all his DUI's you'd think he would have his license revoked by now.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 03:07 AM
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7. I had heard that it's his NEIGHBOR'S truck..
I don't think he even owns a vehicle.. The haybales and shack that the press uses as a backdrop are also on the neighbor's property.

He has a fancy-schmantzy ranchette on some dirt...the ranch stuff is on loan from the real ranchers in the neighborhood..

He's a phony now, as he has been his whole life..

He was a pretend student
He was a pretend jet jockey
He was a pretend oil man
He was a pretend baseball team "owner"..
He was a pretend governor for the easiset state to BE governor
and now

He is a pretend president..

We know he's pretending because he has managed to F_ _ _ everything up beyond recognition..
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