If we are "Of the Other Faith" what exactly does that mean?

[Toots]

That we believe in what Christ said and not Leviticus? What "Other Faith" are they referring to?

[chieftain]

1. The dreaded secular humanism is our "faith'. And for that

we are all going to hell.

[kliljedahl]

4. See ya there

I don't want to be where all those Fundie Wingnuts are.


Keith’s Barbeque Central

[chieftain]

10. You bring the beer and I will bring some Kansas City Barbecue

and eternity won't be half bad.

[kliljedahl]

15. Sounds like a plan

[bush_is_wacko]

17. OOoo, OOoo, Hayward's I hope!

I have to admit I don't miss much about KC, but Hayward's is definitely something I miss! Best damn BBQ, I ever tasted!

Now I'm starving!

[chieftain]

19. I was thinking Gates and Bryants but

we can add Haywards. Damn, now I'm hungry, too.

[chicagojoe]

2. They have now begun to call Democrats

"those of the other faith". They are throwing the word faith around. To the simple-minded, this will soon come to mean "the godless snakes".

[bush_is_wacko]

18. My "faith" doesn't have the word "democracy" in it!

I realize they equate "Repukkkelican" with "faith" but why on earth do they think "liberals" view "faith" that way????

[undeterred]

3. we believe in the Constitution, representative gov't, checks & balances,

freedom of religion, and separation of Church and state

[acmejack]

5. We don't believe in the infallibility of St. George the W

and his band of neocon disciples. George the W is without sin, he knows of no errors he has made, not even a little tiny falsehood. Seriously, we need to deeply troubled by this development. It would appear the other faith is merely an appellation applied to non Republicans. See you in the camps...

[Cha]

6. The Faith that believes Jesus was

a Liberal because of the things He said and did.

The all inclusive Faith that doesn't oust anyone because they believe a certain way. And I'm talking Unitarian Universialist here.

"a liberal religious tradition, encourages us to keep open minds, believing that personal experience, conscience, and reason should enter in..."

[blondeatlast]

13. That's just what they want us to think it means, but it doesn't.

It's an attempt to reach out to us--so they can slap us down.

It sounds "nice," like an extended hand.

But it most definitely isn't.

Guaranteed it came from the Heritage Foundation; and you'll be hearing it commonly used within weeks.

[charlyvi]

23. Well, it didn't sound nice to me. n/t

[blondeatlast]

7. It ain't good, whatever it means to them. That you can count on. nt

[Beam Me Up]

8. I don't do TV/Media, can someone clue me in, please?

I mean, I get the gist that in some contexts or other the fundies are now referring to the rest of us as as "THE OTHER FAITH" and there is the question what that means, precisely. (As if "precision" were of any importance to THEM what so ever--it's all about innuendo, you know.)

In any case, what is the context for this NOT unexpected turn of events?

[hobbit709]

9. It means

we'll be soon wearing a yellow "D" on our arms.

[blondeatlast]

11. Quoted from Daily Kos:

If we don't do anything at all, if we just stay where a lot of people have said we ought to stay -- there are a number of members of Congress of the other faith who have said that we don't need to do anything -- well, if you don't do anything, the net result will be, for somebody today, say, in their 30s, by the time they get to retirement age, their benefit levels are going to be cut some 26 percent or 27 percent. Automatic, that's what will happen with today's existing law.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/5/4/155225/5465

As stated further down in the thread, it's getting repeated.

Straight from the Heritage Foundation to your Bush-voting neighbor's mouth--guaranteed.

[Bluerthanblue]

24. well, the 'other faith' would HAVE to be

someone other than those who believe in waging war against nations who had not waged war on us-(living in fear, NOT in 'trust') Living lives that put 'self' ahead of EVERYONE and EVERYTHING else-

Having NO 'faith' in the notion that as the years go by, my sons will NOT resent having paid for the sustinence of the old, dis-abled, and impoverished that lived during thier 'fruitful' years- (my 21yr old, has been working full time for the last 3yrs, puts money in his own retirement account, and donates 5% of each check he gets to the united way (automaticly), AND does not resent paying into a 'system' that doesn't guarentee him his 'money back' when he retires)

Those of us of the "other faith" don't worship money- that is NOT to say there are not wealthy democrats, even Kerry himself said that he SHOULD bear a heavier tax burden- the bible does say "to whom much is given much will be required"
And admonishes in both the OT and NT that looking after the poor, and less able should ALWAYS be a 'priority' That there should be a year of 'jubliee' every 7years, where debts were cancelled- that loaning with the goal of getting rich on the 'intrest' is WRONG- even says not to harvest ALL your crop, but leave enough behind for others to glean.

It really doesn't square with the 'faith' i've come to embrace. (which is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things NOT seen) - What 'they' want is not something that can't be held in the hand, or in some off-shore account, but tangible- and countable, and that just aint 'faith' -

My take is that when those who behave in ways i believe to be absolutely wrong and cruel, criticizes the way i behave because it runs totally counter to 'thier' view,THAT becomes a compliment, and a confirmation that i'm on the 'right' path-

It's heartening to see that 'they' clearly understand we don't share the same deep values, because i'd hate to think i had become 'one' with them-
The lines are indeed being drawn in the sand- and everyone will have to search thier hearts and quit following the 'leader' when that leader is furiously loading them into a'handbasket' headed towards destruction-

[blondeatlast]

12. Concentrate less on the "faith" and more on the "other."

It's a propaganda tactic.

I was a linguistics minor and still fascinated by it, especially how language is perverted in politics and marketing.

"Other" is a demonization tactic, simply a continuation of the tactics they have already used to further isolate us from our neighbors.

think of the Holocaust, think of the Russian Revolution, etc.

Us vs. them, the "other faith."

It's far deeper and despicable than we want to even think about, I suspect.

It bears careful attention--"thye" are fully prepared to take over. This is a code to the Bush faithful.

Be afraid. Be VERY, VERY, VERY afraid...

[GaYellowDawg]

14. It depends.

For some of us (me included), it means that we're Christians, not Paulines.

For some of us, it means that we're secular humanists, not fundamentalist radicals.

For all of us, it means that we are not disciples of the Church of Bush, where the Ten Commandments are:

1. Thou shalt have no other politicians before me.

2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Bush thy President in vain. Or asketh him hard questions at press conferences.

3. Thou shalt not observe the election day, or the Diebolt machines, as the Bush thy President commanded you.

4. Honor thy father and your mother with thy words, but take their Social Security as the Bush thy President commanded you; that our rich may be made richer, and that it may go well with us, in the land which the Bush thy President gives us.

5. Thou shall not kill, unless the person be Iraqi, an abortion clinic worker, an activist judge, or anyone else whom the Bush thy President wishes thee kill, and thou shalt absolve the Bush thy President for the killing, for the Bush thy President taketh no responsibility.

6. Neither shalt thou commit adultery, unless thou art of the Bush thy President's supporters, then it shalt be absolved as a youthful indiscretion, or settled out of court.

7. Neither shalt thou steal, unless it is to make the rich richer.

8. Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbor, unless thou be a Swiftie, or with FoxNews, the prophet of the Bush thy President. Or Ann Coulter. Or Rush Limbaugh. Or G. Gordon Liddy. Or part of the Bush thy President's administration. Or anyone who likes the Bush thy President.

9. Neither shalt thou covet thy neighbor's wife, unless thou art Niel Bush, brother of the Bush thy President. Or unless thy last name beginneth with B, endeth with H, and hath U-S in the middle.

10. And thou shalt not desire thy neighbor's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or anything that is thy neighbor's, unless thou art with a credit card company. Then taketh, for the Bush thy President will reward thy millions in election gold with billions in gold.

[maxsolomon]

16. if you are "people of faith", then

the "other" faith = NO FAITH

or, the atheist

since all communists are by definition atheists, democrats are commie traitors. QED. we're still in the mccarthy era.

whatdoes the GOP have, a series of well-funded think tanks where they just pay narcissistic assholes to sit around all day & think this shit up?

oh yeah...

[BringEmOn]

20. To the Fundies, it includes "mainline" and liberal Protestant,

Catholic, all other world religions, and Athiests. It also means you'll soon be loaded onto boxcars and "moderate" democrats (Kapos) who sold you out will be cracking the whip and handing out work assignments.

[bobbieinok]

21. very clear to fundies: 'our faith' is faith in God; 'other faith' is faith

in Satan

fundies all get the precise message while the rest of us try to believe that bushco and their 'patriotic pastors' are not doing what they are really doing-----demonizing everyone who does not agree with them

[Bluerthanblue]

26. no!

faith in God would be trusting that even though 'HE' doesn't seem to be evident, or clearly 'providing' what they need and keeping 'them' safe-

Satan wanted to BE EQUAL to God- in otherwords, HE wanted to be the 'controller of all'- He wanted to make the rules and exact the punishment- so, if one lives by 'faith' in DEED and in word, there would be no wealthy, well armed 'fundies'- thier hope would indeed be in the Lord, the maker of heaven and earth-

Remember what Jesus said to "the rich young ruler"- that he needed to give up all his wealth, and the man went away dispondent and hopeless, because he didn't trust in God- but in HIMSELF and HIS MONEY-

An extreem case? yes, but Jesus told everyone to stop picking away at what others do, and clean our own houses- "yeah but I'm so glad I'm not a worthless sinner, like that guy" who is saying "God I know i'm not perfect, please accept me for the wretch i am"- and Jesus said it was the 'wretch' that 'knew' the 'right' way to live- humble, trusting, and not afraid to live 'out loud'-

i wish 'thier' faith truly rested in God- i hope someday it really will- For thier sake and the sake of the entire world-

[DanCa]

22. Greek and Roman mythology

I think I finally understand what happened with the greeks and roman mythology. The romans came to power and the first thing they did was co opt there religions belief and turned Juipter into zeus.
By other faith I think that the dems and myself who believe in Jesus Christ see him as a healer or teacher who cared about other people regardless of thier orientation and party affilition,
The Red God of the Fristian 'sis some bizzare god of war that is on a quest for madness/riches/ and power. Welcome to the world of 2004 .
I sadly miss private devotion.

[La Coliniere]

25. Conflating the words "other" and "faith"

Fits right into the Orwellian lexicon the repugs have mastered (Lundtspeak).
"Other" meaning foreign- unlike us. "Faith" meaning not true Christian fundie believers, i.e. atheists, or worse, commies!
Hence, foreign and unchristian. YIKES, they really want to incite a HOLY WAR!

[true_notes]

27. They are referring to

Anything other than Christianity.

[kenny blankenship]

28. Gee Wally I don't know--

Uh...what do Xtians usually do to the "other" faiths?
A perusal of historical precedent might be instructive.

[Lars39]

29. It means the Republican party & *christianity* are now the same thing.

At least in their mind.
"If you're not with us, you're against us."