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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:01 PM
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Is * going to buy the Unemployed with $3000
Is this going to happen? Is this Chimpy's and Rove's way of trying to buy the votes and goodwill of the unemployed in this crucial period? Somehow this one passed under my radar screen.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/business/US/reemploymentaccounts_030918.html

Unemployed since January, Juan Casero was excited to receive a call recently from a human resources manager who showed interest in him for a position at the U.S. District Court in Des Moines, Iowa.

The proposal, also known as the Back to Work Incentive Plan, drew a lot of attention this spring, when the House Education & the Workforce Committee approved the legislation. Since then, budget concerns have put the proposal on the back burner. But the president has been mentioning the proposal in recent speeches about the state of the economy.

"These accounts will provide a job seeker with up to $3,000 to pay for training, day care, transportation, relocation expenses, whatever it takes to find a new job," Bush recently told an audience in Kansas City in a speech on the economy. "And if they find a job quicker than the allotted time for the $3,000, they get to keep the difference between what they've spent and the $3,000 as a re-employment bonus."

How It Works

The plan, as it's proposed now, would work like this: Individuals who are receiving unemployment and are identified by their state as likely to exhaust those benefits would be able to get up to $3,000 to help purchase services such as job training and employment counseling or support services like child care, transportation or housing assistance. People whose unemployment benefits had expired within the previous 180 days would also be eligible for such an account.

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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:04 PM
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1. What About The Long Term Unemployed
Been out of work for 38 months now.

1,426 resumes out the door.

Resume posted at 105 job boards.

I have heard no reply from any queries in 18 months.

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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:10 PM
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4. maybe
its time to look at a new line of work..

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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:33 PM
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8. If You Think For An Instance
That all those resumes went to the same industry you are delusional.

The bureau of labor estimates that there are 3 job seekers for every available position. Since this comes from the Bush Administration, you have to believe even this statistic is low.

Middle aged white guys like myself are being passed over in droves.

Those are the facts.

My background:

MBA
Electrical Engineer
Commercial Pilot
Veteran

All the above is irrelevant when no one is hiring!

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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:55 PM
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10. Like what, dude?
Barista?
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:08 PM
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2. Jobs
Then they ship them off to Iraq, slave labor for Halliburton and
Bechtel
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leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:09 PM
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3. I dunno, BUT it sounds like a good plan
People will have a BIG incentie to find a job...I'd get work doing ANYTHING within a week...just to get that $3k bonus
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:37 PM
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5. not having a job is good incentive too
I don't see how this plan will actually create jobs though... isn't that the bigger issue?

This seems to me like just another cash-waving to get your vote.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:00 PM
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11. Yeah, a great plan called corporate welfare!
Bribe people to take shitty temp jobs where their skills will be unhappily underemployed so corporations can attract American labor cheap enough to compete with Chinese slaves.

Woooo hooooooo! What a plan!!!

Cheap labor conservatives strike again!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:39 PM
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6. So, is Neil's company now in the adult retraining business?
That would be my first guess. Neil is selling software for big people?
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junker Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 05:41 PM
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7. 3000 for either hindi or chinese lessons.....
been out of work 6+ months and climbing. All this will do is nothing. Problem is the jobs went overseas. I am 50 and a software engineer. I went to employment counselor who kindly informed me that my next job is statistically 18 months away at less than a third of what I was making. Well, you can imagine my reaction.
I live in pnw and the situation for software people is bad unless you speak hindi or chinese and can get a green card in india or china.

So now I am supposed to take the 3000 and learn hindi and them go be an illegal in India? Is that the plan? Eh, sahib?


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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 06:40 PM
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9. I could use the $3k
But it won't help me find a job here. There are no jobs that pay even what I am getting in unemployment compensation. Nine months unemployed this week.
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angka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:18 PM
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12. this is just another example
of the fact that bush is not a conservative. he is a fascist, something fundamentally distinct—and more than willing to spend domestically. don't be hoodwinked...
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:30 PM
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14. Pinochet re-Nationalized the Copper Industry as well...
...as increased public spending. All that after firing the "Chicago School Neo-Cons". The Chilean "Miracle" was a result of that.

Funny thing about that sort of Fascist...They do much of what I would do in repect to Social Programs and Collective National Industries. However they always leave a minimum of gross poverty as a "Stick" and basically create a Oligarchy.

Whoa...That's what we've got now.

Anyway they're corrupt and not worthy of the power the wield.
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 07:25 PM
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13. the $87 billion for iraq occupation,
is enough to give every unemployed person (not just the short-termers) $10,000.

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