Gephardt or Edwards?

[angee_is_mad]

With Clark entering the race, who do you all think will drop out 1st? Gephardt or Edwards? I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade, but let's be for real!!! It is now a 3 man race with Kerry, Clark and Dean with Dean and Clark fighting for the tiara!

Go Dean?

[JI7]

1. none

both have what it takes to be president and actually win. none will drop out. bill clinton was even lower than gep and edwards is at this point. gep is high in iowa. edwards is gaining. democratic primaries bring surprises unlike republican which is usually predictable.

[angee_is_mad]

3. I disagree

Most people do not realize that Edwards is running or who he is for that matter. When Clinton ran he was the media darling and he worked the media like a pimp! And I mean that in a respectful way. Gephardt is a nice man, but his time has past.
I know most Americans do not know who the candidates are, but the ones they do know are Dean, Kerry, Gephardt and Sharpton. If Edwards make it to the primaries I would be surprise if he won N.C.

[JI7]

5. not true

at this point nobody knew clinton. and he was not the media darling. his success was based on him having done better than expected in new hampshire despite the media whores. his success was due to his meeting people themselves,e specially through town hall meetings which edwards is the best at. edwards just recently officially declared his run. the media ignores him, but he still has what it takes to win. not sayin ghe will for sure, but i sure wont write him off. and gephardt has some loyal supporters and he is high in polls in some states. just saying it's too early to write anyone off. most don't even know who the candidates are.

[Bombtrack]

8. NC doesn't have a primary

at least not till way after super tuesday (march 2)

but before then he can win or almost tie in SC, AZ, NM, OK, (Feb 3), as well as TN and VA (Feb 7), and on super tuesday he could win in Texas, Georgia, or maybe even California

[quinnox]

2. Neither

Both are in for good, Gephardt especially because he has a good chance to win the whole thing. Edwards will also probably stay most of the way, since he decided to abandon his senate career, this is a do or die effort for him.

[angee_is_mad]

4. So ,

they will stay in to save face? Do you honestly believe that Gephardt has a chance to win the whole thing? Don't lie, lol.

[Bombtrack]

6. Clark has a 10th of the money and numbers that Edwards has

I know he was very successful at fucking Edwards over on there shared announcement day, and it's pretty clear that the media came through for the Clark campaign in that screw over, ignoring Edwards and his upstaging and saturating for Clark.

But no, Clark is not past Edwards or even past Leiberman.

I wish Gephardt would drop out, and it really shows the knee-jerk yippy response sentiment from a substantial part of the dem primary electorate that his "miserable failure"/negativity gimic was successful in getting a bump in support

Gephardt is a boring typical career politician and a miserable failure himself in many regards

I wish he'd drop out, but he won't.

I also wish that Graham, Kucinich, and Braun would drop out as well, as I believe it would improve the debate process, by eliminating unwinnable primary candidates, and trying to have real debate. I believe that Dean wants as many candidates as posible, because debate has shown to be not one of his strongsuits

[angee_is_mad]

9. lol

Alrighty then!!!! What are Edwards poll #s compared to Kuchinich and Gephardt? If he is higher in the polls than Kuchinich it could not be by much. I'm curious, do you think Edwards would win his home state or would he be like Gore and lose it. I'm from N.C. by the way.

[Bombtrack]

13. he's doubled his numbers in IO and NH since last polls

and he's winning in SC, up from 5 percent

he's virtually tied for third in NH (he has 6, up from 3, while Joe and Dick have 7, down from the low teens) all he needs is 3rd in NH, and a close 4th or 3rd in IO

he'll probably win SC, and he could easily win the bulk of the other Feb 3 primaries.

I think he would win NC's 16 votes, although not by much. I think he'd also win Florida, Virginia, Arkansas, and Tennessee(where he also lived)

if things really go bad for Bush(dometiscally or foreign relations) he could also win GA and SC (he also lived in both states)

so your wrong, he's doing a heck of alot better than Kucinich, which you wouldn't know even if you watched most news

he's been the main Rove target from the beginning, and they are successful at stifling unwanteds through parts of the media

as well as billboards and townhall disruptors through front groups

[RandomUser]

15. Since you're from the state

maybe you would know better and can correct me. But I would suspect that a lot of NC dems are pissed at him for giving up the senate seat. I know during the This Week spot that covered Edwards on the campaign trail, there was a NC person who showed up and admonished Edwards for giving up a hard to take senate seat for dems. So I'm not sure Edwards would win his home state.

[Bombtrack]

16. you don't get that coattails matter

it will be a hell of a lot easier for a dem to keep the seat with Edwards as the party's standard bairer than it would be for Edwards to try and defend it under the coattails of a stereotypical new england lib.

I'm not SURE he'd win NC either, but he'd make it a 15 vote electoral tossup minimum, which is better than any other candidate could do. He'd make the GOP spend like crazy to defend it, and FL, and GA, VA, TN, AR, and WV. He'd force the GOP to sacrifice fortunes more and spread there resources everywhere, unlike Dean, who would be crushed everywhere but the northeast and west coast, and allow Bush to concentrate on any and every midwestern Gore state and make a dem victory almost impossible

[angee_is_mad]

18. why couldn't he win N.C?

[CMT]

7. neither

Gep is doing well enough in Iowa and may yet win there. He also has strong labor backing. Edwards has been coming on pretty strong lately and is leading in South Carolina.

Frankly, I'm not so sure that the untested Clark will be as big a threat as some think to any candidate.

[angee_is_mad]

10. Clark a more articulate Arnold?

I know he is an extremely intelligent man, but I wonder with the media adoration if he would be treated with kid gloves. Except for the debates of course, instead of gangng up on Dean, all of them will be ganging up on Clark. I wonder if Dean is relieved or afraid?

[PurityOfEssence]

11. Herd mentality is just everywhere today...

Caesar's still in his salad days, the Doctor's writing lots of prescriptions he can't fill, and the Easter Island Man's getting chipped away.

Beware the premature pronouncement; it comes back to haunt.

Regardless of standings, Gephardt's making what's potentially the last stand of a very long and determined career, backed by many unions; Edwards is in it for the long haul, otherwise he'd have kept his day job.

[sistersofmercy]

12. Edwards! Gephardt's been around a while, he wants it this time!

[pruner]

14. he should've thought about that b4 he stepped into the Rose Garden with *

n/t

[Cocoa]

17. neither

I don't see why Clark's entry would have that effect.