"September 11th And The Bush Administration:Compelling Evidence

[bobthedrummer]

for Complicity"
by Walter E. Davis, PhD.
Long and serious, another 22 reasons why I'm in the LIHOP crowd.
These are high crimes and misdeamenors, folks, and so many unanswered questions.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4582.htm

What unanswered questions do you have, a lot of mine concern ISI, the behavior of USAF on 9-11, and the thwarting of several FBI terrorist investigations prior to the attack as well as the case of John O' Neil.

[Girlfriday]

1. Good Link

Thanks!

[bobthedrummer]

3. Thank you Girlfriday

and welcome to DU:hi:

[Skittles]

2. I will NEVER understand the actions (NON ACTIONS) of the USAF that day

WTF????? I'm an Air Force veteran. AF PILOTS LIVE for scenarios presented on 9/11. YET THEY WERE ABSENT and NO ONE HAS EXPLAINED WHY. I DON'T GET IT.

[bobthedrummer]

5. Man, they scramble for UFO's

you'd think they would have been all over hijacked airlines. I'm going to be 54 in November so my entire civilian life during the Cold War was kept safe by quick reacting scrambles, even for UFO's.

Plus with the Command, Communications and Control bases in the N.E. around DC one would expect a robust defense. Something stinks about the USAF response on 9-11-2001 to say the least.:puke::argh:

[Eloriel]

10. Too few people have even ASKED why

Esp. at high levels of government.

The Payne Stewart plane incident, which was widely publicized (as we all know), demonstrated clearly what SOP is. Most Americans -- and certainly an awful lot of Congress -- really should have some SERIOUS concerns and some toothy questions themselves.

Eloriel

[Skittles]

11. I'm telling ya

those blue boys SALIVATE for the chance to do stuff like that. We constantly practiced "mobility" - exercises where you played pretend war and the pilots were sent on missions. Yet 9-11 was THE REAL THING - AMERICA UNDER ATTACK; IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED. WHERE THE F*** WERE THEY?

[EDT]

16. Non Actions of the USAF- I disagree with that point.

I work with the military often, and I can say that the planes (prior to 9/11 at least)
were not sitting on the runway loaded up with missiles and 500 rounds of ammo,
ready to launch at a moments notice.

Missiles and ammunition for aircraft are seriously locked up and away for safety
reasons, and not a quick task to get out and load up.

[newyawker99]

19. Hi EDT!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[nolabels]

4. "the case of John O' Neil" is most interesting to me

My guess is the guy is not even dead, but got this ticket to vanish or had to vanish because of what he knew. The secret deals that floated around with all these people using one immunity against another to hide the deals that involved billions of dollars. The co-winky-dinkys are just too much again.

[protect freedom impeach bush now]

6. very damning summary for PNAC cabal

:(

[maggrwaggr]

7. my only problem with the article:

is the part where he suggests that the WTC towers wouldn't have fallen unless there was some sort of planned demolition.

Which I think is just silly.

If you watch the tape of the towers collapsing, you see it starts by the obliteration of the floors where the planes hit. The immense weight of the floors above that point crash down onto the other floors, and this inertia causes a chain reaction which collapses the whole building. In other words, once it started, there was nothing to stop it.

Not much different than how some buildings collapse in big earthquakes. They pancake straight down.

His inclusion of this point weakens his whole argument, the way Meecher's inclusion of FDR's supposed foreknowledge of Pearl Harbor weakened his argument.

I wish people would stick to the REAL suspicious stuff and not start making spurious connections.

Because there's PLENTY of suspicious stuff here that stinks to high heaven.

[bobthedrummer]

8. That is understandable. But when you consider that the same company

that handled the McMurrah demolition and the reconstruction after the 1990's WTC bombing handled the clean-up after 9-11 it gets a wee bit suspicious to some of us.

There are many other areas to 9/11 besides the engineering questions as to the exact cause of WTC collapse, none of these questions are answered.

Do you lean towards LIHOP-MIHOP by any chance?

[PATRICK]

9. Compelling?

That stuff is locked away. Suspicious? You bet. Justified in speculating the worst? Of course, but unless you have proof toknockj the socks off the cover up sticking with what is known and demanding answers is best. Also, there are several areas you can hang Bushco on merely with what is known about obstruction and dereliction of anti-terrorist activities, exploitation for taking non-offending Iraq, lying, poor and reprehensible political behavior. Conflict of interests- even with terrorism backers- up the wazoo. Even without LIHOP the effect is the same if the WH was so preoccupied with its pipeline tack in Afghanistan that it amounted to the same thing. In their twisted agenda and prioirties they might very well justify their actions and inactions in this manner.

For example, with rigorous consistency they always planned on pre-emptive attacks in serendiptous oil countries, elminating two sources of terrorism at the same time while asserting American dominance worldwide. They dismissed counter-terrorism as doomed to eventual failure(a self-fulfilling judgment) and the effect is LIHOP on a more subconscious level. That is horrible enough and at least a career ending, war criminal bent frame of mind, one the ordinary citizen would also have a hard time swallowing or understanding.

That is a logical guess, but the current crowd is less than sane by those standards too and possibly capable of darker plots and more pro-active LIHOP. And with the stonewall and unreactive public forums all we can do it guess. Getting them on a lesser charge is as much as the real law usually settles for. Wild speculations are not necessary and often get counterproductive if no one will investigate in the first place. Demands for accountability and documents must persist, accelerate and bear fruit. History books in 2100 AD won't help us now, nor will they mention the minor theorists with admiration who might have speculated correctly.

The smoke is still rising.

[nolabels]

13. I could even forget LIHOP, if ment were examining what came after

I would claim a stake MIHOP even without investigating the scene of occurrences. Coming to grips with that some in government are not all that innocuous is not hard. The place the state installs itself of determining what is or what is not moral is a clue.

They have to bend somewhat to the side of the population, but are set up to subdue them (and steal what they can get away with, which means everything, even ones moral values). What’s in for them and what’s in if for us or you? What they have and get to keep balanced against what you think is that place where your safety and piece of mind resides

But even if everything about 9/11 was true, what does that have to do with what they are doing now?

[Sophree]

18. Didn't evidence of FDR's foreknowledge

of Pearl Harbor come out this year?

Just a few I found on a google search:

http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/article/id1488/pg1/

"Now, though, according to Robert Stinnett, author of Day Of Deceit (New York: Simon & Schuster, 2001), we have the proof. Stinnett's book is dedicated to Congressman John Moss, the author of America's Freedom of Information Act. According to Stinnett, the answers to the mysteries of Pearl Harbor can be found in the extraordinary number of documents he was able to attain through Freedom of Information Act requests. Cable after cable of decryptions, scores of military messages that America was intercepting, clearly showed that Japanese ships were preparing for war and heading straight for Hawaii. Stinnett, an author, journalist, and World War II veteran, spent sixteen years delving into the National Archives. He poured over more than 200,000 documents, and conducted dozens of interviews. This meticulous research led Stinnet to a firmly held conclusion: FDR knew."


http://www.independent.org/tii/news/001207Stinnett.html

http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpwessex/Documents/pearlharbor.htm

[BattyDem]

12. Great link

To me, the most obvious LIHOP/MIHOP clue has always been the fact that the Pentagon was hit 52 minutes after the first tower was hit. 52 minutes! They knew the country was under attack and yet we're expected to believe that no security measures were taken to protect Washington, D.C. - even though the city is our nation's capitol and is home to the White House, the Capitol Building, the Pentagon, the Supreme Court, the Justice Department, the FBI Headquarters, the CIA Headquarters and various national monuments. There was plenty of time to protect DC and prevent the plane from hitting the Pentagon, and the fact that nothing was done - or even attempted - makes no sense at all.

By the way, does anyone else find it hard to believe that the Pentagon - the center of our nation's defense - has absolutely no means to protect itself? That's absurd! At the very least, there should be anti-aircraft guns around the building.

Think about it - terrorists can shoot down planes with portable weapons, but the Pentagon can't! :wtf:

[Octafish]

14. Having been briefed by the CIA, NSA, FBI, INS, DoS, DoD, DIA, etc et.

... and told EXPLICITLY that your family's longtime business partner Osama bin Laden was planning to hijack American airlines — AT THE VERY LEAST — WHY DID YOU FAIL TO WARN THE AIRLINES, AIRPORTS AND AMERICAN PEOPLE?

Excellent thread, as usual, Bob and DUers! Thank you, all!

Here's a great archive of links and stories on the BFEE 9-11 Connection:

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archiveprior_knowledge

[Karenina]

15. TWO YEARS

and NO ANSWERS.

[Octafish]

17. They hope the trail gets cold.

Just like in Dallas, 40 years ago. Same modus operandi. Same people. The difference now is they're not called traitors. They're called conservatives.