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mrfrapp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 07:58 PM
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On Orwell's, 'Can Socialists Be Happy?'
After reading this article, linked from DU somewhere, I was trying to trace the Orwell quote mentioned within. With luck, it is to be found here and is worth reading. I also found, again through luck, another Orwellian essay. It is entitled 'Can Socialists Be Happy?' and has aroused my curiosity.

While I appreciate that not all Democrats or even the political left in general would describe themselves as socialist I don't think that is an issue here. I am simply interested in what my fellow readers consider to be the ultimate ambition of their political view. Is the Utopia really so bleak as Orwell describes? Are we as a society even looking for a Utopia? And if we are not, what necessary evil is required to make society function?

To be brutally honest, I'm not sure how I would answer these questions myself, although I have vague notions, but I suspect that when I do reach a firm conclusion it will represent a milestone in the development of my political character. We cannot after all, battle without goals.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-03 08:26 PM
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1. A very interesting article.
Actually my own political evolution was impacted by the writing of Orwell, Einstein and Russell.

I eventually became a Socialist. I remain a Democrat, and have hopes for the Party's future, but I'm also a card carrying member of the SP-USA.

"I am simply interested in what my fellow readers consider to be the ultimate ambition of their political view."

I would suppose a Cooperative Commonwealth for me.

"Is the Utopia really so bleak as Orwell describes?"

In the sense of keeping the thrill of Life it may very well be bleak. Happy balances are needed I believe.

"Are we as a society even looking for a Utopia?

I think our culture preaches a false Utopia, one of material gain as the measure of Happiness. Our amazing consumption of mood altering pharmacuticals is good evidence that it's a failed idea.

"And if we are not, what necessary evil is required to make society function?"

Ambiguity is a necessity. People need a sense of confusion to keep from melting over the flames of their personal hell. Self contemplation is highly over-rated.


Have you read Einstein's "Why Socialism"? http://www.monthlyreview.org/598einst.htm
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