Two groups most obnoxious about Clark (and scared) Deanies and Republicans

[jeter]

Jesus, and I support Dean. But what a fucking embarrassment. Jesus, you guys realize that Clark will probably be Dean's running mate right? What a bunch of idiots you're behaving like. This irrational anger targeted towards Clark, who will make an excellent VP and great contrast on a Dean/Clark ticket.

Settle the fuck down. Clark won't win the nomination because he doesn't have the organization. Dean does. He doesn't have the money. Dean does. He doesn't have the experience. Dean does. He doesn't have the issues. Dean does.

So have confidence in your man. Let Clark be. Let's make a good clean race out of this. Dean will win based on his ideas and organization. The same way ALL Democrats win.

You guys are so insecure. Do you want every pundit and Republican asking in July, "well why are the two of you coming together now after all the anamosity during the primary campaign?"

Do you want the GOP to use OUR FUCKING "Opposition Research" against us, the way Bush I used Willie Horton (first brought out by Al "The Idiot" Gore in 1988) against Dukakis?

Let it be. Take a chill pill. There is one thing everyone here has to get used to:

Howard Dean/Wesley Clark, 2004 Democratic nominees.

[ShaneGR]

1. Been wondering that myself

Dean people are so freaked they're acting like Charles Manson logging into the Free Republic. It makes no sense because Clark is the very best choice for Dean's VP. It's downright odd.

[diplomats]

3. I agree

Dean has a good chance of winning the nomination but Clark improves the field of candidates even more. And they like each other, too.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Agreed

And I like Dean...

But I want my country back and I smell a Dean \ Clark, or Clark \ Dean ticket, I cannot shake that feeling

[seventhson]

4. If Clark is BFEE then Dean might get Wellstoned (RFK'd, JFK'd or MLK'd)

same problem I have with Kerry.

If Dean wins and has a BFEE VP then he may well get iced by the BFEE and we are in the same shit as now.

THAT is why I raise hell about Kerry and Clark. They are too damn close to the fascist BFEE to be trusted.

[RichV]

10. Wow

You need one of these --> :tinfoilhat:

[pruner]

5. as I pointed out in a thread last night…

there is a difference between closely examining a candidate's record/positions/etc. and bashing it.

up untl now, Clark's record had never been subjected to any kind of public scrutiny.

it's essential that this scrutiny take place now because if he's got any skeletons in his closet, and I'm not saying he does, they need to come out during the primaries than the general election, when it'll be too late to do anything about it.

IMO, one of the most disturbing memes that's emerged is that anyone questioning Clark's record is doing so out of fear.

in truth, it's called due dilligence,

[jeter]

7. pruner, there is scrutiny and there is stupidity

The statements made here are so out there. They could be made by Rush Limbaugh.

[Upfront]

6. Clark Is not

in the race to be anyone's VP. He has Clinton people around him and they are playing to win. Clark intends to win.

[jeter]

9. Obviously.

But he won't.

[Evanstondem]

8. You're generalizing based on a few negative people

I'm a Dean supporter and I welcome Clark to the race. Let the best man win the nomination.

[jeter]

11. I'm a Dean supporter too

And I'm not directing this message to ALL Dean supporters. I'm directing it to those "few negative people."

[Nashyra]

12. Thanks I'm a Clark supporter

but if Dean is the candidate I look forward to working with the likes of you jeter.

[jeter]

14. And vice versa, Nashyra

Vice versa. :)

[Evanstondem]

20. Fair Enough

I agree -- let's have less negativity.

[Eloriel]

13. You bet I'm freaked

What I've learned about Clark in the last 2 days seriously freaks me out. The last thing in the world I want is for him to tarnish Dean's campaign, which is exactly what I fear.

Eloriel

[jeter]

15. Eloriel, but person attacks (incorrect ones at that)

Only make you look bad. Not Clark.

[fabius]

16. Dean supporter here, not worried about; not bashing Clark.

I just hope Clark takes the "high road" and doesn't get too involved in bashing Dean. Actually it could still work out.

Remember George HW Bush coining the phrase "voodoo economics" in 1980, talking about Reagan in the primary? Then remember George HW Bush signing up for the whole program?

I don't think Clark and Kerry are BFEE guys. Seems unlikely.

[fabius]

17. Most of voters don't follow DU candidate bashing anyhow n/t

[jeter]

18. True fabius

But they should. :(

[zeemike]

19. I am not concerned about Clark

What concerns me is the mischief that the Repub. can make with it. And I see them doing it with the help of the media. Just about every news channel has carried the story of “Is Hillary really running? And “Is Clinton behind Clark”? Then the RW take that and spin it into a conspiracy to counteract Deans popularity.
Next I would suspect to see polls that show Clark gaining on Dean. That will take a few more days.
Then Clark will attack Dean on his lack of military experience and Dean will fire back to defend himself and the media blitz will be on. Then the only story on the tube is the questions about the fitness of the two of them to be president. I can see it now. Did Dean waffle again? Did Clark lie?
And who is to say that they will not rig the primaries to get the candidate that does the greatest damage to the moral of the Demos?
But my man is Dean and I feel sure that he is smart enough not to fall for that crap, so my moral is still good.