Does counterpunch.com have a vendetta against Clark?

[janekat]

All they have been doing for the last month is attacking Wesley Clark.

It seems that they no longer have time to attack Bush or the Pubs because they're too busy attacking him.

One of the most pitiful examples of journalism I've ever seen is the one posted the other day "Wesley Clark is a War Criminal." Poorly written, poorly researched - just an out and out fabrication.

This is a sampling of the latest articles:

9/19 General Hysteria: the Clark Bandwagon
9/18 Wesley Clark for President? Another Con Job from the Neo-Cons
9/18 Wesley Clark and Waco
9/17 Meet the Real Gen. Clark

[DoveTurnedHawk]

1. Hell Yes, They Do

But they also have vendettas against practically every Democratic candidate except for Kucinich.

Clark is just the one who scares them the most, because he's the one who can win and invalidate the notion that a Democrat needs the far-left, one-percent vote represented by Counterpunch in order to win.

DTH

[CMT]

2. not any more than they do against Dean

many a counter-punch article has been recycled on the pages of DU against Howard Dean.

[Evanstondem]

4. Both Dean and Clark supporters can agree

to disregard Counterpunch.

[diplomats]

6. Sounds like a sensible idea to me

[ShaneGR]

3. They just don't like anything having to do with the military

It's really pretty simple.

Look at their front page, it's like anti-semitism central.

[neuvocat]

5. You know, FDR was a dem too.

And you didn't see him having any apparent conflicts of interest or with his conscience.

Folks, look, just because someone has served in the military doesn't mean he or she has some sort of polarizing view of the world.

The repuke argument is that a military veteran cannot by nature be a democrat (or other than a puke). To attack someone on their service record is to simply buy into a gross argument.

After all, we got AWOL in the white house and you don't see any pukes getting upset about that.

[Pepperbelly]

8. from my recollection ...

most Democratic Presidents served in the military, at least since FDR. Kennedy and Johnson were Navy as was Carter while Truman was Army. Bill, of course, was in none. Which is fine with me, too.

[seventhson]

7. ALL of us on the left should have a vendetta against Clark

He is a right wing "democrat" (probably in registration ONLY) and we do not WANT or NEED THAT right now in America.

I like Dean best as the man wuth the best chance of winning and putting a reasonable presidency in place.

Right now we have a treasonable presidency and I suspect Clark's would be too.

[RichV]

9. Why say Clark is "right wing"?

Delay is right wing. Pat Robertson is right wing. Rush is right wing. Clark is probably center-left, in the same space as Dean or Kerry.

[seventhson]

15. Clark is a military commander with years of fascist type assignments

That's why.

His biography speaks for itself and it is scary as hell.

YOU vote for him. NOT me.

[RichV]

21. Um

What "fascist type assignments"? Seen some tinfoil hat nonsense around here, but nothing all that interesting that could possibly be true. I'm curious about the depleted uranium stuff, but haven't looked into whether or not it falls outside the realm of normality in modern warfare. I suspect it doesn't or he (and the prez, and the military in general) would have been called on it in the decade before yesterday.

[Evanstondem]

10. Save your vendetta for Bush

I'd rather focus on supporting Dean and opposing Bush and his minions.

[Abe Linkman]

11. Clark is today's MacArthur

Maybe a little more politically sophisticated, but just as dangerous. During the Balkan War, Clark said of Milosevic: "Take him out." He also tried to order the British to fire on Russian planes attempting to land. The British refused, thank goodness, out of concern that Clark's order could have caused a war with the Russians (and all their nukes).

Clark is an arrogant, vain order giver. He has no capacity for empathy. Something that our country desperately needs right now, with so many people having already lost hope and more doing so with each day.

We can do much better than Clark. At best, he might be a good VP candidate to run with Kucinich.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

23. I respectfully disagree

The Russian troops during the Kosovo campaign went rogue, following the orders of their rogue Generals, who defied their own President. They had to be threatened to stop. Clark's elimination of Milosevic from power was a blessing to the world. Personally I have a great deal of love and respect for the Serbian people, but Milosevic cannot possibly be defended, particularly in this forum. The man was a bloody racial and ethnic supremicist. A strong military is as noble or ignoble as the people who command it, but it is necessary. Even the Paris Commune fought a military action when they were besieged, losing nearly 50,000 people in the process. Napoleon himself in the early years (before he became engrossed with power) was required to go to war, as the revolution within France was being threatened by the old monarchies of Europe. No revolution of the working people anywhere in the world, at any time in the world has ever been possible without a strong military force. I can understand someone being against a particular war. In that event, we can debate the reasons for the war and the way it was handled. In my opinion, only the strongest action against Milosevic could have taken him down. But to argue against all war, against all strong military actions of any kind, against the Generals following those orders, and to blame all military leaders for the decisions of their superiors, is nonsensical. Nothing I have read about Clark would lead me to believe that he is a man without compassion or empathy. In fact, the very opposite is true.

[KaraokeKarlton]

12. You CAN'T believe anything you read from Counterpunch

As a Vermonter, I know that the crap they write about Dean is a load of dung. They use unreliable information sources and don't bother to look up the facts at all. The Howard Dean they write about sure as hell isn't the same Howard Dean who was my governor for so many years. Counterpunch is about as reliable as Rush Limbaugh. The only difference is Rush is right wing radical and Counterpunch is left wing radical...and BOTH spin the shit out of what they put out so bad that it doesn't even remotely resemble the truth.

[seventhson]

16. Bullshit. Dean was no saint in Vermont and we all know it. BUT he is ...

the best IMHO that we have NOW to beat Bush.

[KaraokeKarlton]

18. Um, I"m a Dean supporter

And Counterpunch DID put out a load of lies about Dean, claiming he was bad on the environment and what not. It was a load of shit. I know Dean is good on the environment because I live here. Everything I've seen about Dean from counterpunch has been critical AND a load of horseshit, spun so badly that it's nowhere near the truth. Since I KNOW they did this to Dean I think it's safe to assume that they're doing the same thing to Clark. Anything written by counterpunch should be carefully examined and verified for factual authenticity.

[MrPrax]

13. Maybe Counterpunch figures

that 2003 Clark is 1996 Powell in sheep's clothing...

Hey didn't Colin float the trial balloon that he might run democrat?

America Needs It's Heroes

[Renew Deal]

14. YES

[KittyWampus]

17. I Went To School With Counterpunch's Mitchel Cohen

At SUNY Stony Brook.

Or rather, I was going to school and he was still hanging around.

If this is the same guy he was/is a far-left freak agitator.

An Egotistical schmuck.

He had his groupies and did such "useful" things as organize a protest against the movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy".

One of my majors was Anthropology... alot of us went to see that movie and LOVED it and its perspective.

Mitchel Cohen thought is was "racist" and felt a need to agitate...but then he was ALWAYS looking for a way to get laid.

So it's not so much Counterpunch has a vendetta but that Counterpunch is the Left's version of Fox News.

[Evanstondem]

19. But with a lot less influence

Now if only Fox News would shrivel into the Right's version of Counterpunch.

[Julien Sorel]

20. They practice a fair and balanced approach to him.

Like the upstanding organization they are.

[LastDemInIdaho]

22. counterpunch is always on the defense or rebound

Striking while the iron is cold is worse than hoeing a hard row of stumps without dynamite.