please, help me refute this guy's argument

[gemini_liberal]

I, like many other folks on here, post on many messageboards - both political and apolitical. Anyway, I was posting on a messageboard, which has nothing to do with politics, in a thread about the Cali recall process I wrote a message saying about how the President should be recalled - to which I got this reply:

Nobody is going to recall President Bush because as much as you left wing radicalists would like to blame it on him, the economy is not his fault. And our economy is also in a recovery right now if you haven't noticed.

ok, typical right-wing response. Something I usually ignore, but he called me a radical, and I can't stand to be called something I'm not (not that there is anything wrong with radicals ;) )so I replied with this answer which is dripping in sarcasm:

I'm a radical now? (lol)(lol)(lol) cute.

Of course it's not the President's fault, it must be the Republican congress, oh wait, no it's not them...I know, it is Bill Clinton's fault! Bill Clinton managed to trick us hippy left-wing radicals into believing (as we are gullible uneducated sponges) that he was responsible for a near decade of prosperity, but rather he is actually responsible for the downturn that started occuring not long after Shrub came in, just like 9/11 was Clinton's fault, like the *#$& in Iraq is Clinton's fault, like whatever happens next will doubtless be Clinton's fault.

I'm sorry I ever doubted you, you have brought me back into the light, I'm ready to go back to watching Fox news and posting at FreeRepublic like an intelligent person, and not some radical.

Re-elect Shrub! :D

Then he dribbled this crap:

The economic prosperity we had in the 90's was in no way brought about by Clinton. It was a direct cause of what was put in place by Reagan and Bush Sr. in the 80's. Infact he went so far as to trick the voters into thinking we were still in a recession when infact we were pratically out of it. Nonetheless, the shameless, dispicable bastard took credit for it when he didn't do a damn thing make it better in the first place.

9/11 was Clinton's fault because of what he allowed to happen to our Nation's security and Military. National security was so lax under Clinton's administration that these muslims radicals were able to get in to this country illegally, train in pilot schools with FAKE visas, penetrate airport security, commandeer 4 airplanes, and kill 4,000 people. Not that you can really think that a command in chief who states publicly that he loathes his Nation's military, really takes National Security seriously.

Iraq is also Clinton's fault. If he went ahead and authorized the CIA's plan to assasinate Hussein and Son's we wouldn't have to go into long, drawn out campaign in the first place.

Clinton is a dispicable bastard who shouldn't have been elected in the first place because of the S-H-I-T he pulled as the governor of Arkansas. Anyone who has ever crossed paths with Clinton is either dead or in jail. Take Vincent Foster for example.

And about Fox news, well, Fox news in the most objective news service you can watch. They're fair and balanced and tell it like it is. Unlike the liberals at CNN(Clinton News Network) who slant the news to cater to the liberal point of view by making conservatives look stupid, incompetent, and racist.

now i could just let it go, but I dunno, I feel like that would be letting him win on such fallacious points. Any ideas on how I could refute his argument? It would me much appreciated.

p.s. sorry for the long post.

[MoonAndSun]

1. You will never change the opinion or views of these types of

rightwing, FAUX-loving nut cases. Just laugh it off and don't feed his lunacy anymore.

By the way, I am also a liberal gemini!! Welcome to DU :hi:

[toddzilla]

3. uhh..

you won't ever change his mind.

let it go...

[gemini_liberal]

4. yeah I know

but it just annoys me, but you're right I probably should just let it go.

Cool, a gemini! what day were you born? For myself, it was June 7.

p.s. Thanks for the welcome, but I have been here for quite a while, I just don't post very often.

[T Bone]

2. Keep it short; agree with him- and then

Say: Yes, it's Clinton's fault that the WTC was still standing tall and proud when he left office, and now is a smoldering pile of ash on Bush's watch !

and add: What was that Bush said about nothing like the Cole EVER happening on his watch??

[gemini_liberal]

5. good idea, but

they ignore those pesky "facts" remember? lol

[T Bone]

8. that's why you keep it short

for their attention span and you don't waste a lot of time...

[ScreamingMeemie]

6. And all of the jobs that were lost during Reagan and Bush's reigns

were the fault of Carter some 10 years earlier. Maybe pepper him with the current jobless stats-white collar jobless stats even. Good luck, but it is hard to get through.

[Evanstondem]

7. This guy only understands "fair and balanced" discourse

Try a response like..

Bush is a known sociopath who gets off on death and killing. That's why Texas led the nation in executions while he was Governor, why he starts a new war every year, and why he asked Al Qaeda to "bring it on" when the killing in Iraq started to slow down.

That ought to get him going.

[Cat Atomic]

9. Just ask him why he hates America.

And then when he's finished frothing, ask him again. And ask him why he doesn't support our troops.

Ask him why he gets a hard on when a rich boy gets our soldiers killed for a lie.

Then tell him he's helping the terrorists. Say we all have to stand together during this crisis, so he should stop airing his opinions.

And then ask him why he hates America again.

[procopia]

10. It must be nice

to be able to make the facts what you want them to be. Ask him if he has any more of those blue pills.

[zeemike]

11. I am a liberal Gemini also (may 24)

All of the above advice is good.

[MrPrax]

12. Why ask for help?

This should have tipped you off:
Nobody is going to recall President Bush because as much as you left wing radicalists!!

You of course disowned the moniker and then turtled...
A team B team...he's right...
If the names of the President's change and their party's, then a new boom/bust cycle will happen...
Just blame the other party...
Clinton was scum...so was reagan and bush...they pushed the same agenda

Rather than attack a Freeper...start deciding what YOU want from a federal, state and local gov't.

You will be in a much better position...
why defend a guy like clinton--his presidency is as full of landmines (!!!) as the GOP error.

Most freepers are movement conservatives and will abandon their 'orders' as quickly as you can say, 'contract with america' or Scoop Jackson...

[QC]

13. Ask him if it's hard to type without opposable thumbs.

[LunaC]

14. Buy him Franken's book

then ask him where Clinton's $5.6 trillion surplus went and why the budget deficit increased by 50% in just FIVE months during Smirk's reign.