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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:00 PM
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Alert - Luntz on MSNBC re: Clark, etc. n/t
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:03 PM
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1. Give us the skinny
if we're tuned into football....
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:04 PM
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2. the Pubs on the panel - slashing Clark n/t
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:04 PM
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3. This oughta be fun.
Luntz segments are a hoot to those of us who know his background and what he's really about. He just luuuuuvs to pick on Dems.

Just tuned in....
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:06 PM
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4. I was outraged when he got his own show....
we should scream bloody murder.
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:07 PM
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5. Pub; What is he - a communist? n/t
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:11 PM
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7. The blond old bag
pissed because she thinks he wants to take from the rich and give to the poor. Imagine that, a more equitable distribution of wealth.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:12 PM
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12. She resembles a blonder older looking
Kay Bailey Hutchinson.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:17 PM
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17. "Redistribution of wealth!!! He supports Class Warfare!!"
That was her response after a clip showed Clark saying "You give the money back to people who need it the most, not the people who need it the least."

:puke:

I also loved the way Luntz said that economic issues were of the most concern to most Americans... he only points that out when Chimpy's not doing the soundbites. :-)
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:33 PM
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25. This is one of the reasons I like Clark
The way he stated his answer about tax cuts that you posted. It's hard to spin that. That's his position and it's as plain spoken as you can get.

He can also think on his feet and he's easy on the eyes. Now don't flame me, but you know there are people who vote for the guy 'with good hair.'
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:20 PM
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18. He's a repuke pollster, but almost never identified as such.
He used focus groups (peasants under glass is the trade term) and polling to frame the dishonored Newt's infamous Contract On America to make it marketable.

His primary function is to educate repukes on how to stick a knife in you while convincing you its a pat on the back.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:31 PM
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24. He's a renowned, infamous, blood-letting Republican Strategist...
... yet for years now, the media has hawked him as a "pollster."

Dammit TacticalPeak, I can't stand his squirrely face... and can't believe I actually watched this program. Oh well... "know thine enemy," huh?

:-)
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 06:13 PM
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26. I once heard Tweety seque him into a heated Halfball discussion with:
"Frank, you jump in here; you don't have an axe to grind."


:puke:
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jeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 06:16 PM
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27. and he's almost always wrong
Most famous quote: one day before 2000 election on Charlie Rose Show, "There is NO WAY Al Gore can win the popular vote."
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:08 PM
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6. Luntz: Why is he changing his name from Wesley to Wes? n/t
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:14 PM
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15. LMAO.. that's our Luntzie!
Luntz actually polled folks early in '93 when Hillary started hyphenating her name.
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:11 PM
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8. Pub: "we already tried to go to the UN - that didn't work" -
When they showed of clip of Clark saying that we should get International Support.
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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:14 PM
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14. Snort!
Yes, we went to the U.N., while insulting its leadership, its WMD inspectors and its member nations. Somebody's wearing blinders...
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:11 PM
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9. The repugs seem scared to death of 'Wes'
Luntz is a putz. :crazy:
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:12 PM
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11. they're really riled up n/t
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:26 PM
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20. I'm scared of Luntzy
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 05:26 PM by tishaLA
and that damned toupee he's wearing! Sheesh. How frequently can he change its color from brown to red?
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 06:47 PM
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30. Hi tishaLA!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:12 PM
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10. WHERE are these people from?? Idiots!!!! n/t
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:13 PM
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13. Listening to some of those in the audience talk about how we
"tried to form alliances" and it failed makes me realize that there are "Moron-Americans."
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:16 PM
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16. Who's the dizzy old blonde chick calling the General a commie?
And later says she doesn't want to comment on Clark because she "doesn't like him".

Luntz is playing the "Gore" card by saying the General is changing his name from Wesley to "Wes".
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:20 PM
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19. She called Clark "naive."
<snort> Pot, meet kettle...
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:26 PM
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21.  A "naive" 4 star general? she must think Gen. Shenseki's a moron
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 05:27 PM by oasis
for predicting the costs of the Iraq fiasco.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:27 PM
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22. How DARE Luntz - Bringing up the California Recall
What a total creep... trying to appear impartial about the recall, when he's the guy who urged his fellow 'Pubbies to "kill Davis softly" in a memo to them last July...

http://www.insidevc.com/vcs/el_articles/article/0,1375,VCS_4116_2258635,00.html

Even the Republicans who seek to oust Davis are aware that the process of defending oneself against a recall can be so brutal that it could engender sympathy even for an unpopular politician. In a July memo, renowned Republican strategist Frank Luntz advised California recall backers that they must seek to "kill Davis softly" by attacking him "in the context of regret, sadness and balance."

They really ought to make people take a Frank Luntz Knowledge Test before they agree to be on his phony panel...
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 05:27 PM
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23. Don't worry Dean supporters ...
Frankie has enough love for Dean as well, currently trashing him for the race remarks.

:eyes:
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 06:18 PM
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28. Dean made race remarks? I missed that one..
:shrug:
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-20-03 06:21 PM
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29. nbd ...
Edited on Sat Sep-20-03 06:22 PM by Pepperbelly
just the flap over the remark about him being the only Prez candidate to talk about race to white audiences.

Frank still tried to see if he could float a smear with it.
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