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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:33 AM
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Breaking: Water Remains Wet
The sky is up. Water is wet. Fox News is biased towards the Republican party. These are the axioms that define reality in our world. The first two do not get challenged all that much, but the third – the Fox news bias – has been the subject of various and sundry arguments and excuses from those whom that network happily carries all that wet water.

They are fair and balanced, right? They say so, anyway. Never mind that O’Reilly, Hannity, Scarborough and the rest of them expend prodigious amounts of energy and lip-spittle flaying anything and everything that is not marching in lock-step with The Anointed One in the Oval. Sure, they’ve got Colmes on the Left, who on most days does a fair impersonation of the littlest puppy in the litter, the one who can’t quite get to the milk. Aside from him, however, the voices you hear from that network are raised in gravel-voiced unison with whatever happens to be spilling from the White House press office.

So what’s the big deal? Fox is just one news network. It isn’t as though News Corporation and its far-right boss Rupert Murdoch controls massive swaths of the news and information media, right? News Corporation only owns at least one station in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, Dallas, Washington D.C., Minneapolis, Detroit, Phoenix, Orlando, Atlanta, Houston, Cleveland, Denver, St. Louis, Memphis, Greensboro, Birmingham, Austin, Kansas City and Salt Lake City.

News Corporation only controls the Sky Network in several countries around the world, DirecTV, the FX channel, Fox News, Fox Sports News, 20th Century Fox, the New York Post, the Boston Herald, The UK Sun, the UK Sunday Times, 20 other newspapers in Australia, The Weekly Standard, TV Guide, HarperCollins Publishing and twenty-two other publishing houses, StarTV which broadcasts to Asia, twelve different publishing companies focused on children’s books, the L.A. Kings, the L.A. Lakers and the National Rugby League.

No big deal, right. Probably only a couple billion people a day watch, read or listen to something controlled by Mr. Murdoch and News Corporation. Their influence is far and wee….and fair and balanced.

It was something of a surprise, then, to read Scott Norvell’s comments in the Wall Street Journal on May 20th. Norvell is the London bureau chief for Fox News, and perhaps accidentally let the mask of impartiality slip a bit. He was comparing the privately-owned Fox to the publicly-owned BBC when he said, “Even we at Fox News manage to get some lefties on the air occasionally, and often let them finish their sentences before we club them to death and feed the scraps to Karl Rove and Bill O'Reilly. And those who hate us can take solace in the fact that they aren't subsidizing Bill's bombast; we payers of the BBC license fee don't enjoy that peace of mind. Fox News is, after all, a private channel and our presenters are quite open about where they stand on particular stories. That's our appeal. People watch us because they know what they are getting.”

It’s an interesting perspective, that. Indeed, Fox News is a private channel, and the glory of private ownership, like private property, is that the owner can do whatever he or she wants with it within certain limits. Yet the airwaves upon which Fox is carried belong to the people here in America; we gave those airwaves over for free a few decades ago, but still lay claim to a say in what goes out over them from time to time.

Again, however, there are no surprises here. Water is wet, the sky is up, and Fox News loves George W. Bush. The Wall Street Journal let as much slip in an article back during the late campaign season in 2004 which said, “Mr. Bush believes the key to victory lies in his party's conservative core. He gave a rare interview over the weekend to Fox News, a network sympathetic to the Bush cause and popular with Republicans.” Not long after, the Journal ran a pathetically abject ‘correction’ which stated, “News Corp.’s Fox News was incorrectly described in a page-one article Monday as being sympathetic to the Bush cause.”

The sky is at your feet, and water has turned to sand.

One has to wonder, sometimes, what this dedication to all things Bush costs the producers and on-air ‘talent’ of Fox News from time to time, especially when the Commander in Chief does one of his firebombing-of-Dresden jobs on the Queen’s English. An example of this happened during a press conference on May 31st. Bush was asked to reply to an Amnesty International accusation about our prison in Guantanamo being a brutal gulag. Quoth Bush:

"In terms of, umm -- you know, the -- the detainees, we've had thousands of people detained. We've investigated every single complaint against the detainees. It seemed like to me they based some of their decisions on, on the word of, uhh -- and the allegations -- by people who were held in detention, people who hate America, people that had been trained in some instances to disassemble -- that means not tell the truth. And so it was an absurd report. It just is. And, uhh, you know -- yes, sir."

The word he was scrambling for was ‘dissemble.’ That means not tell the truth. Right. Pass the Pepto, Mr. Hannity. Mr. Scarborough has to try and make a silk purse out of this sow’s ear.

Every once in a while, however, some facts slip through the filter. The Fox News internet site ran an article on June 1st which opened with, “A British government memo that critics say proves the Bush administration manipulated evidence about weapons of mass destruction in order to carry out a plan to overthrow Saddam Hussein has received little attention in the mainstream media, frustrating opponents of the Iraq war.”

The article went on to detail the facts presented by the Downing Street Minutes – that intelligence and facts were fixed around the policy of invading Iraq, that the case was thin, and that any invasion was, in fact, probably illegal. The article even quoted one Dante Zappala, whose brother Sherwood was killed in Iraq. “My family knows the consequences of the decision they made to go to war,” said Zappala. “I can't speak for what the TV news decides to focus their attention on. They seem to have a willful deference to all relevant information. I think they've really just dropped the ball on this.”

Not to worry, though. It isn’t as though people actually read anymore. Television is king, and the remote is right there between the couch cushions. Right at this moment, a Fox News talking head is lambasting Democrats in the Senate for daring to think they have a say in who gets appointed to the Judiciary. The sky is up. Water is wet.
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:34 AM
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1. *sigh*


so somethings are as they should be
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:38 AM
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2. What is your take on the Downing Steet Memo article that Fox just posted?
Are there any motives behind it?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:42 AM
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4. My take
is that it doesn't matter unless they talk about it on the tube.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:41 AM
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3. Great Piece - As Always!
I'll take Amnesty International's word over a politician's any day - even the word of a politician I support.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:46 AM
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5. Well that was depressing
Well-written...but depressing. *sigh*

Quick question: paragraph 5: "far and wee"? *confused look*
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:06 AM
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6. Old saying
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:00 AM
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10. Ah...gotcha...
it just made me giggle...you said "wee". *snort*

Ok...not as giggle worthy as "poop". :shrug:
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:42 PM
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20. coined by ee cummings, and in great use in our house . . .
as the dog snout pictured to the left belongs to a far traveling, wee puppy (albeit always in large circles and at 50 pounds really not so wee anymore.)
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Cash Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:07 AM
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7. Scarborough is on MSNBC
But that's beside the point.

Everyone it seems used to get their TV news from the big three. Then came cable and now there's more from which to choose, a sort of target marketing for news. Of course, it was always there in some respect, it's just become more noticeable. And we can say that Fox is right leaning on public airways all we want, but the political opposition has been saying that PBS is left-leaning on public airways for years now, along with CNN and the big three, so that's a wash.

What's conservative and what's liberal is subjective to one's own personality. Every point you make can be flipped and turned to the conservative prospective and they would agree with it just as much as those on our side agree with our prospective. It's what politics has become today on both sides; let me read and hear what confirms my already determined beliefs.

My questions is with the conservatives viewing the MSM as being liberal and liberals viewing the MSM as being conservative, how are they even making enough money to get by and how much longer will they last?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:10 AM
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8. D'oh. Thanks. Fixed.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:26 AM
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9. Hi, Will! (hugs)--small problem
brilliant as usual, but there's a problem with this wonderful phrase

"from those whom that network happily carries all that wet water"

I don't want to lose the language, so what I would do is add "for"
before "whom"

"from those for whom that network..."

it adds to the prepositional stack (not so good) but it must be there, methinks--I puzzled over it for quite awhile, though!

all the best

Debra
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:29 AM
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12. Yeah, got that
Thanks.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:04 AM
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11. No! NO!!!! Only "some sources are saying" that.
:hi:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 10:31 AM
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13. LINK TO FINAL w/ good video included
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:57 PM
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14. thanks for the link, excellent video
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 02:06 PM
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24. I agree. It is excellent.
Thanks!
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:53 PM
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23. The video was moving, thank you for that.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:04 PM
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15. Recommended...
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:19 PM
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16. Nice writing as usual and it raises a question, which
all good journalism should do, that is to make us think.

It seems that the only solution to this problem is to break up this monopoly of private ownership. It seems if Murdoch owns one portion of this market, conflict of interest should prevent him from owning other portions by law. Breaking up those monopolies will go a long way in breaking up the propaganda machine. It will allow other voices to be heard.

Once the monopolies are broken up then you can bring back the fairness doctrine and other fixes.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:29 PM
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17. Wait, shouldn't there be another post taking the opposite position
just to be fair and balanced?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:33 PM
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18. Be my guest
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 03:18 PM
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29. "William Pitt's motives in declaring water wet are SUSPECT!"
Book me on Fox!
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 04:36 PM
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30. But you need to restate that 2 or 3 times, in order to "catapult the
propaganda" :evilgrin:
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:38 PM
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19. Why "Karl Rove"?
When Norvell says "Even we at Fox News manage to get some lefties on the air occasionally, and often let them finish their sentences before we club them to death and feed the scraps to Karl Rove and Bill O'Reilly." .. as big a "slip" as this whole quote is, isn't it even a more telling slip-within-a-slip that KARL ROVE gets first dibs on the sraps-o-liberals, even before O'Reilly?

What?

What the hell does KARL ROVE have to do with FOX/News Corp/Murdoch???

(I mean yeah, water's wet, etc... but to admit it, out loud, and with actual words..?)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:53 PM
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32. BINGO!
:thumbsup:

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:44 PM
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21. The media has been diseased by greed.
Ethics, responsibility, truth, principles,...all trashed for greed.

The media has become so awful, it just boggles the mind.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:51 PM
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22. Yes. Television
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 01:52 PM by Zorra
is the heroin of the people and the killer of democracy.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 02:07 PM
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25. American media "news" is about what sells..not information.
"Breaking news" too frequently resembles breaking wind.
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Comicstripper Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 02:15 PM
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26. My Question is.....
Thank you for this informative piece. My question, though, is:

Is the wetness or dryness of water in any way related to the Michael Jackson case? It's important that I keep up with current events.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 02:38 PM
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27. Guess this just isn't the week to give up sniffin' glue.....
:silly:

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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 02:47 PM
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28. I remember Fox news publishing an article after a Kerry speech
describing him as feminine, looking for make-up, etc. Only problem was that it was a piece of satire, but Fox news published it as fact.

Showed that to my Dad, along with another article detailing another mistake they made, again painting the right as perfect and the left as pathetic.

They always show the right as a dazzling Rambo commie-killing machine, and the left as a sheepish damsel in distress.
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:18 PM
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31. If I post work for my clients, will you guys edit it for me?
Or is Mr. Pitt special ;-)

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