LA Law Enforcement Wants "Registration" Of Political Dissidents

[dogday]

Los Angeles, California -- Los Angeles Sheriff Lee Baca is trying to push the California State Legislature to adopt a law that would require the registration and publication of the names political dissidents, in a manner similar to that of criminal sex offenders.

"These Nazi white-supremacist groups are classic examples of people who slide underneath the First Amendment and at the same time commit these hate- crime acts," Baca today told the LA Daily News, "I think they need to be looked after and monitored for quite a long period of time."

Baca's legislation, which is ridiculously un-Constitutional and extremely unlikely to pass, would order the arrest of all people in California who hold "white nationalist" political views, loosely defined to include everything from "neo-Nazis" to anti-immigrant conservatives, for the purpose of photographing and fingerprinting them, and placing their personal information on a publically accessible list of "hate criminals" that would mirror California's existing "sex offender" database

http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_crime&Number=293662485

[beyurslf]

1. Down the slippery slope indeed....

[SnowGoose]

2. everybody break out your yellow 'star of david' badges...

except for you women who wear flannel or guys who know how to dress. It's pink triangles for you.

California uber alles!

[prodigal_green]

3. So, the right will freak out over this

but I'm sure if it were directed at members of MoveOn or Earth First or Greenpeace they wouldn't say a word.

[LynnTheDem]

9. That's the huge diff between us & the rightwing. We fight for THEIR rights

as well as ours.

They fight only for themselves.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

4. Source is the "Liberterian Socialist News"

My head hurts.

[Deep13]

5. Today it's Klansmen.

Then its WTO protesters.
Then its gay pride marchers.
Then anti-war protesters.
Then abortionists and activist judges.
Then liberal radio.
Then atheists.
Then practitioners of off-beat religion.
Then unionists, lawyers and bloggers.

And when they come for you there will be no one to hear your protests except a bunch of aplauding sheep.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

6. How about quoting this part

While Baca's proposal is stupid and going nowhere, it is symbolic of the types of laws Jews would pass if they were allowed to do so. Jews so hate the American people that they would strip away all of American's rights in order to enslave the country, using its people as cannon fodder for their wars, and stealing the product of their labor to enrich Jewish interests and their Zionist Entity in Occupation of Palestine.

[immoderate]

13. Self delete

--IMM

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

14. Who are you talking about?

Me or the OP? I'm just quoting from the article.

[immoderate]

17. Yeah, I got it now.

Sorry about that. I wish I'd seen that more clearly.

--IMM

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

18. No problem.

Though I am still waiting for the OP to explain his actions in posting hate propoganda.

[immoderate]

21. Well, if the police really proposed this, it's an issue.

I didn't check the source though, which is why I misinterpreted your post.

--IMM

[Stirk]

7. With Banana Republicans in power, is there any doubt of how

such powers would be used? These are the same people who used the DHS to track down their Democratic political rivals in Texas, after all. They'd start abusing it 8 o'clock, day one.

[immoderate]

8. We used to have this...

They were called the "Red Squads." Local PDs kept records of dissidents. Cointelpro was the federal operation that assassinated them. It was unconstitutional then...

--IMM

[Tux]

10. Yeah

order the arrest of all people in California who hold "white nationalist" political views, loosely defined to include everything from "neo-Nazis" to anti-immigrant conservatives, for the purpose of photographing and fingerprinting them, and placing their personal information on a publicly accessible list of "hate criminals" that would mirror California's existing "sex offender" database

Violate the Constitution much? Hell, why not put everyone on that stupid list. While having RW fundies go through that embarrassing ordeal would be fun, it violates the Constitution and degrades people. Arresting people for their political views, huh? Well, all that bitching about the Soviet Union brought back it's ghosts (conservatives, communism failed, let it go, and enter the 21st century).

[me b zola]

11. ?

:wtf:

What's the word from the Legislature? Is anybody considering this?

It just gets scarier everyday :hide:

[gratuitous]

12. Registering neo-Nazis?

Would the Governor's name be on the list?

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

15. Doesn't anybody RTFAs?

Jesus Christ!

From the article:

The proposal is the most blatant example of Jewish hate mongering and tyranny that has appeared to date in the United States.

And:

Jews so hate the American people that they would strip away all of American's rights in order to enslave the country

Or perhaps we could discuss some of their other fine editorials, such as There Was No "Holocaust" : A Brief Summary Of The Truth

[alphafemale]

19. No matter how offensive and stupid their words..they have a right to them

I certainly don't approve of the rounding up people and the criminalizing of ideas.

And not just because we wouldn't be far down the list of the "roundees."

edited: my typing blows today

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

23. And you take some random Neo Nazi's word on the subject? n/t

[Just Me]

22. Yep! Pretty freaky trash there.

"Hatred" is a very, very dangerous entity.

[sui generis]

16. well I do agree that people who commit hate crimes should be

monitored just the same way that sex offenders are.

But there is a huge gap from merely having or expressing a political opinion and actually doing something to cause harm with it.

While I despise the Klan and their philosophy of life, I do think that only people that are convicted of hate crimes should get to wear a scarlet letter for life just like a sex predator.

[bicentennial_baby]

20. Your link is nasty

Nasty, hate propaganda...liberty forum, my ass. Thay sure don't like Jews over there, eh? This shit shouldn't be on DU. And since when are hate groups now "political dissidents"? How quaint... :puke:

[dogday]

24. I don't approve of their comments, I was more interested in LA's

plan to group dissenters in a category like sex offenders. The Jewish remarks are not my cup of tea, but this is America and the speech is free and I cannot change what people think....

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

26. Do you have any source for this...

...other than a neo-nazi hate group? I can't find a damn thing about it anywhere else, except repeated ad nauseum on the websites of other hate groups.

[ComerPerro]

25. Um, those groups ARE criminals

[Moderator]

27. Locking

Links to racist hate sight, and endorses its views.