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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:52 AM
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At least MSNBC is calling the Iraq quagmire what it is:
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 11:53 AM by MadAsHellNewYorker
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:55 AM
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1. Could someone remind me again why we went there?
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:56 AM
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4. they had WMDs...no wait a sec
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 11:57 AM by MadAsHellNewYorker
they were trying to develop WMDs....no wait, its now
they were trying to acquire WMDS....no wait, i forgot its
to free the Iraqi people...no wait....
:eyes:
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:03 PM
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8. It was to dissemble, oops, I mean disassemble,
"WMD-related-program-activities". You need to spend more research time on the internets. :eyes:
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:05 PM
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9. Oh thats right
i forget the exact convoluted language commander Coo-co bananas used...
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:57 AM
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5. Easy
Iraq was part of 9/11 then had WMD but Saddam was a tyrannt and Bush wanted to spread democracy so Isreal can have peace as we prevented terrorism and WMD production.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 01:08 PM
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15. By Jove, think I got it
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:10 PM
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10. To spread freedom and democracy.
Worked pretty well, don't you think?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:55 AM
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2. I just saw that headline
670 * 12 = 8040/yr

and that's just the known dead.
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DemBeans Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:55 AM
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3. not surprising...
If Iraq is in "mayhem" (no argument there), it helps keep General Electric firmly in place with their DoD contracts to 'clean it up'.

Of course, this doesn't take into account that our very presence there is causing the mayhem - that's an issue that GE/MSNBC won't touch. No money in it.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:01 PM
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6. Oil and Hegemony were the real reasons
The fake reasons changed from month to month.
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:02 PM
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7. Shhhhh!
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 12:02 PM by MadAsHellNewYorker
your making too much sense...:evilgrin:
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:16 PM
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11. when you stop and consider how that FACT is IGNORED by ALL M$MW
to this very day it is down right scarey...

if anyone starts imitating Mr. Galloway and start speaking the plain hard TRUTH the neoCONs would be so busy DISSEMBLING they wouldn't have enough spare cycles to MIHOP and TERRORIZE other countries civilians.

psst... pass the word

peace
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:37 PM
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12. Yeah you're right. Whatever happened to all that oil anyway? I know
that they are pumping it now without meters because the U.S. had the meters removed. I know the troops stated that was the first places they were told to guard as they continued to get to Baghdad. However, no one has said where all the oil has gone. I thought the oil was going to pay for the war. How can the oil pay for anything? They sure aren't sharing with the American People where the oil/money is going, and it sure ain't coming to us with gas prices so unbelievably high.

I also know that the soldiers said that while they were driving to Baghdad, they were being told once they got into Baghdad and took it over, everyone will cheer them as heros and meet them with flowers and chocolate. Then they could go home.

Also, the whole trip while they were driving from the edge of the country to Baghdad, we were bombing the Hell out of their airplanes and what little military they had in Baghdad (we didn't see this on the news though), so that when our troops got there, there could be no oppossition.

Don't you remember when the news people were reporting "Live" and were "embedded" with the troops. Everytime they talked to one of the troops, what was the one thing they all said? What I remember is them saying that they wanted to keep moving as fast as they could because once they got to Baghdad, then they would be able to go home.

I wonder how many of those soldiers, if they are still alive, remember that promise their government made to them?

Lies, lies, lies, and more lies.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:53 PM
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14. "the road HOME lies through BAGHDAD" - rummy to U.S. troops
it lies all right :argh:


http://images.GlobalFreePress.com

peace
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 12:47 PM
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13. 78 Dead in May... or 2.77 a day for the Month....
Almost tied the record. :(

http://icasualties.org/oif/

Military Fatalities: By Time Period

Period US UK Other* Total Avg Days
4 228 3 11 242 1.98 122
3 579 26 27 632 2.93 216
2 718 27 58 803 1.89 424
1 140 33 0 173 4.02 43
Total 1665 89 96 1850 2.3 805

To View Period Details Click The Period Number
Time Periods Defined
Latest Fatality: May 31, 2005
2005: Iraqi Police and Guardsmen Deaths


Military Fatalities: By Month
Period US UK Other* Total Avg Days
5-2005 78 2 6 86 2.77 31


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