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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:02 PM
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MTV fears offending Bush
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 07:03 PM by tgnyc
Rock group Nine Inch Nails has decided to pull out of its scheduled performance at this week’s 2005 MTV Movie Awards show, after the network balked at the set the group planned to use for the performance of their song “The Hand the Feeds.”

The performance was to take place in front of a backdrop of a photo of George W. Bush. The song takes swipes at the war in Iraq and, more broadly, those who blindly follow misguided national leaders, with such lyrics as:


you're keeping in step in the line
got your chin held high and you feel just fine
because you do what you're told
but inside your heart it is black and it's hollow and it's cold

AND

what if this whole crusade's
a charade
and behind it all there's a price to be paid
for the blood on which we dine
justified in the name of the holy and the divine


MTV claimed in a statement that it was “uncomfortable with their performance being built around a partisan political statement.” When MTV approached the band to discuss its “discomfort,” the group walked.

This collapse makes one wonder whether the folks at MTV actually read the lyrics of the songs to be performed on their awards shows. The song is clearly an attack on Bush’s decision to go to war and the current environment in America (though it’s not clear why such a message would be considered “partisan”), with or without the Bush backdrop. If MTV had already realized this fact when it booked the group, then its reaction to the visual element means that network was hoping to hide the essence of the song from the less cognizant of its viewers. Why would it want to do that?

Actually, MTV’s recent history is pockmarked with examples of the network’s trying to have it both ways, featuring provocative artists in the name of maintaining the network’s “edgy” brand image, while seeking to erase traces of the provocative content that made the artists noteworthy in the first place – particularly when that content veers into the political arena.

more at www.intelligencesquad.com/id117.html
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:04 PM
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1. another internet story on this said that NIN's response was this:
MTV objected to a large picture of Bush to be set up behind the group as they performed. NIN replied something like: I guess they can't stand to look at a picture of Bush anymore than I can!
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:06 PM
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2. Corporate Rock Still Sucks
... maybe I WILL go buy the new NIN album after all.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:07 PM
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3. Who owns MTV?
It seems everyone is afraid of stating the truth... perhaps MTV's Big Brother was lurking behind the curtain...?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:14 PM
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4. I'm not sure
The people who own MTV also own Nickeloden I believe. Funny since on a lot of their award shows they have rap artist's like Eminem and Jay-Z who curse up a storm but they can't have this? Please!
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Alex88 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:19 PM
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5. I think Viacom owns MTV
and VH1 as well
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kiraboo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:21 PM
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6. Well, I don't watch MTV and this gives me another reason
not to start. I refuse to knowingly support anybody who knowingly supports the Shrub.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:30 PM
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14. I thought it was Viacom.
The CEO of Viacom was quoted as saying, prior to election disaster 04, "My vote goes to what ever is good for Viacom."

Since Viacom is past of the "media," we can only guess the obvious... and why MTV has lost their courage to question authority.

Not the MTV I grew up on... boy, that's saying a lot, isn't it? :eyes:
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:27 PM
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7. Not sure
but it's one of the biggies and I'm sure that's the very reason.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:28 PM
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8. MTV Fears Losing Advertisers - GOP Donors
errr... Read Viacom Fears Losing Advertisers...Coke, Pepsi, Budweiser, COORS....all friends of God's Only Party
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:29 PM
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9. This story was the one that made me decide
to go buy "With Teeth"

I do really like NIN, but I don't normally spend cash on music unless it's a must have. However, Trent's stance here made this one a must-have.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:32 PM
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10. I'll have to check out some
stuff and see if it's my style. I also want to buy the Foo Fighters new album.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:34 PM
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11. If you like NIN, you'll probably like this one.
I try to support any anti-bunnypants musicians if their music suits me (Green Day, Beastie Boys, etc).
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:34 PM
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12. I've been a NIN fan from
Edited on Wed Jun-01-05 07:42 PM by XemaSab
Back In The Day and while there has been a long subtle history of social commentary in their lyrics, I'm really surprised and impressed by this.

:-)

From http://www.nin.com/current/index.html



and

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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 07:40 PM
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13. Bush forced MTV to do a dance/variety show with his daughters
as stars if Viacom did not tell NIN to drop the backdrop. Too bad, they could of made it an extravaganza with synchronized swimming and cool guests like Ricky Martin.
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