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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:40 PM
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Daily Show May 31st-Gerald Posner
So I watched the first two bits on the Daily Show last night, then I'm in the snooze zone as Gerald Posner comes on and am jerked back awake.

So weirdly, they are talking about some stuff I just read about in New Pearl Harbor, by David Ray Griffin.

So Posner (Why America Slept: The failure to prevent 9/11) of all people stumbled onto what I think is one key to the whole shebang. I say of all people (in memory of Ace Hayes-deceased Portland activist whom I was recently watching from back in the 90's foam at the mouth-and I enjoyed it so-about Posner's previous piece of trash-about JFK-"Case Closed" but I digress-I just love the irony and syncroncity)

This dude, Zubaydah, claimed that he had been working on behalf of senior Saudi officials with al queda. And that Saudia Arabia knew in advance about 9/11 (and by association and cover-up-hence Bush and company)and to confirm it he mentioned these relatives of King Fahd's who could confirm his claims.

The three he mentioned to confirm it were all dead within an eight day period. One of "thirst."

And Posner (whom I think stumbled upon this and doesn't realize the depth of this finding-it also connects to Pakistan )is talking about THIS while I was jerked awake on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart last night.

America, wake up! The truth is out there.



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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:49 PM
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1. Yeah, it really was very interesting...
I'd really like to hear a longer interview with him.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:49 PM
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2. Thanks. I have to investigate this more. He was amazing.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 08:53 PM
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3. I'm surprised Posner said anything remotely slamming bu$h.
Being a RW propagandist and shill.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:00 PM
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4. If Posner is a shill, why did he write this?
Why America Slept: The failure to prevent 9/11

I haven't read it, don't know too much about Posner, but I didn't know he was a RW propagandist.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:05 PM
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7. blames Clinton a lot and our Intel, need to have their powers expanded
says we need PATRIOT ACT, gives bush a pass, blah, blah, blah

he is a tool of the right

peace
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:16 PM
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9. Check his writings over the past decade or so. If he's saying anything...
...at all, it's because he's been told to say it by his rightwing puppet-masters.

In "Why America Slept", Posner attempts to draw a parallel between the appeasement of Nazi Germany prior to the beginning of WWII, and the supposed appeasement of the Islamic world prior to 911. The parallel is a major stretch, IMHO, because the world of Islam with its many factions has NEVER been viewed by anyone with even a pea-sized brain as a single monolithic entity.

His book "Case Closed" on the JFK assassination was an absolute piece of trash. He did nothing but rehash the official language of the Warren Commission which has more holes in it than Swiss cheese. The late JFK assassination researcher, Harold Weisberg, rammed it back down Posner's throat with his short masterpiece entitled "Case Open".

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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:25 PM
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12. My point is a subtle one
I don't think Posner is just a shill. I don't think he knows what he is. I don't think he's that bright.
Many people actually believe what they are told-that's why rehashing the official story makes them so happy.
My point is the irony of someone being really a staunch defender of there's nothing to see here version of reality-stumbling on something that actually proves the opposite. That is actually used as a refrence in the New Pearl Harbor to cast major doubt on the whole 9/11 story. If HE can find this-what could a REAL journalist-a bright one with guts find? What was Daniel Pearl looking for? Why was he killled? That story fits in there.

My point is the story is there for anybody to find. It's almost painfully obvious to anyone that the 9/11 story is a lie once they spend five minutes upon it.

My point is it's on TeeVEE and we don't even see it. Nobody is awake. And it's not easy either, I must say with the idea that everyone works for Rove and everyone is a shill and a plant..because if that is true then there is no hope.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:17 PM
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10. Thats why I'm surprised.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:23 PM
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11. If Posner is saying anything...
...at all, it's because he's been told to say it by his rightwing puppet-masters.

In "Why America Slept", Posner attempts to draw a parallel between the appeasement of Nazi Germany prior to the beginning of WWII, and the supposed appeasement of the Islamic world prior to 911. The parallel is a major stretch, IMHO, because the world of Islam with its many factions has NEVER been viewed by anyone with even a pea-sized brain as a single monolithic entity.

His book "Case Closed" on the JFK assassination was an absolute piece of trash. He did nothing but rehash the official language of the Warren Commission which has more holes in it than Swiss cheese. The late JFK assassination researcher, Harold Weisberg, rammed it back down Posner's throat with his short masterpiece entitled "Case Open".

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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:00 PM
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6. He didn't but the irony is even HE gets that something smells
And it's smells like Saudia Arabia. And Saudia Arabis is whose friend? F/911 went there-but didn't go far enough. Clearly, our government cares more about Saudi interests than the LIVES of it's own citizens. And here's a Saudi who says-hey-the king and all of them knew about 9/11 and you are telling me his best buddies Bush (or whomever really runs this government didnt'?)

But forget that-what we can get the Bush admin is not the foreknowledge-which is almost always impossible to absoultely prove-but the coverup-the coverup of Saudis, Pakistanis, and whomever else.

See Sibel Edmonds.

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:00 PM
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5. Knowing his history, proceed with caution. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:06 PM
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8. I saw that and was so
fascinated I didn't take notes.

Posner and Jon were having quite the rif on all the dead guys..I couldn't believe what he was saying..in fiction it would be overkill.

I'm glad someone else on here saw that..it was longer than a usual interview I think and could have gone on much longer. We were all so interested!
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 09:26 PM
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13. Posner is making the rounds he is going to be on CSPAN radio tomorrow
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