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dave502d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:06 PM
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AMERICA: THE MOUNTING REBELLION
Since 9-11, our government has become increasingly intrusive and totalitarian. Following 9-11, Osama bin Laden told us it would happen.

"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed," bin Laden said as the U.S. war on terrorism raged in Afghanistan. "The U.S. government will lead the American people in -- and the West in general -- into an unbearable hell and a choking life."

Dubya and his pet poodles in Washington can speechify about freedom and democracy until the cows come home. What they have done speaks louder than their empty rhetoric. They have seized Lady Liberty and have lynched her from the rafters of Congress.

Benjamin Franklin said Americans would lose their liberty “when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government...” Samuel Adams predicted of Americans, “once they lose their virtue they will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader.” President George Washington even warned Americans in his farewell address that, “cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people…”

Others have been just as damning in their warnings.

"War or the threat of war will compel nations who are the most attached to liberty to resort for repose and security to institutions which have a tendency to destroy their civil and political rights. To be more safe, they at length are willing to run the risk of being less free.” -- Alexander Hamilton

"The president of the United States will always come in at the head of a party. You do not think much of the patronage of the President; but the day is coming when it will be tremendous, and from this power the country may sooner or later fall... A number of characters, of the greatest eminence in this country, object to this government for its consolidating tendency. This in not imaginary. It is a formidable reality... This government will destroy the State governments, and swallow the liberties of the people... Here is a revolution as radical as that which separated us from Great Britain. It is as radical if, in this transition, our rights and privileges are endangered and the sovereignty of the States shall be relinquished. The rights of conscience, trial by jury, liberty of the press, all your immunities and franchises, all pretensions to human rights and privileges, are rendered insecure, if not lost, by this change... You ought to be extremely cautious, watchful, jealous of your liberty; instead of securing your rights, you may lose them forever... We drew the spirit of liberty from our British ancestors, by that spirit we have triumphed over every difficulty. But now, sir, the American spirit, assisted by ropes and chains of consolidation, is about to convert this country into a powerful and mighty empire... If your American chief be a man of ambition and abilities, how easy it is for him to render himself absolute!... What will then become of you and your rights? Will not absolute despotism ensue?" -- Patrick Henry

"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government." -- Patrick Henry

"What country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance?" -- --Thomas Jefferson

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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:08 PM
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1. nice post
i feel an odd sense of calm for the first time since november
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:19 PM
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2. What wise men
these were. We owe it to them, to the past and we owe it to our children, the future, to keep fighting even when things seem so impossible.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:21 PM
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3. I like this quote...
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government"

Thanks for your post
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:36 PM
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6. Will Pitt's forefather is quoted, too...
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. " William Pitt, Speech to the House of Commons
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:25 PM
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4. Assuming for the sake of argument that 9/11 was neither
LIHOP or MIHOP, and that Al Qaeda really did it all by themselves, it seems to me that they will never actually have to attack us again. All they will have to do is periodically send out some scary e-mails for the NSA to intercept, and the Regime will stir up the fear again and do another, even more oppressive version of the Patriot Act, et voila: we will eat ourselves alive, drive ourselves into total economic, cultural and political collapse, and ol' Osama Bin Forgotten can sit back in his cave (or his room at the Holiday Inn) and laugh his ass off.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:35 PM
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5. thats right, we are jumping at our own shadows
of course the chimp could care LESS since he knows the REAL DEAL. it's just the rest of us who are all jumpy as hell, setting off alarms here and there at our own shadows and clouds... that show how STUPID we have all become under their REIGN of TERROR.

the neoCONs have MANY tells, sitting in a class room front'n his a$$ off, riding a bike and stopping for ice cream while DC is under RED ALERT.

WAKE UP AMERICA, please

peace
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indigonation Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:46 PM
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7. Great Collection! With that and the Watergate fresh in mind...
Look what Tricky Dick actually said:

"When the strongest nation in the world can be tied up for ... years in a war ... with no end in sight, when the richest nation in the world can't manage its own economy, when the nation with the greatest tradition of the rule of law is plagued by unprecedented lawlessness, ... and when the President of the United States cannot travel abroad or to any major city at home without fear of a hostile demonstration - then it's time for new leadership for the United States of America."
-- Richard Nixon, 1968
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:50 PM
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8. now this is a great quote: is a sound bite available...for dems to use
against the purjury part of Nixon?

Msongs
www.msongs.com/liberaltshirts.htm

PS - Nixon is still the one, all these years later hehe
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