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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 06:49 AM
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C-Span now...Downing Street Memo
AfterDowning street blogger finally on c-span
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 06:51 AM
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1. Thanks - just tuned in. n/t
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 06:59 AM
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2. now the 04 election was "an up or down choice."
Wow- these FReeptards really stick to the playbook!
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:01 AM
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3. This Repug guy just sounds like an idiot
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:04 AM
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4. "Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes?"
The punch line to an old joke, the Reichbot is squatting there and arguing the "meaning of is" ... with a smirk on his obscene mug that announces to the world that "We don't care what you think!"
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:13 AM
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12. There they go again -- CLINTON!
WTF? Clinton did not invade Iraq.

:spank:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:57 AM
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55. AH!
They're trying to blame Clinton? Oh good grief! Don't these people get that once Bush is sworn into office it's all HIS FAULT? Why oh why am I not surprised? :banghead:
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:06 AM
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5. He is an idiot
He's stupid enough to Believe that the Bushies used as a primary reason to invade Iraq to make it free.

That's complete bullshit.

Where are the fucking WMDs, Kevin?

I tell ya, Kevin here, is woefully underarmed in the brain department
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:08 AM
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8. They need to get more callers in
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:06 AM
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6. interesting that c-span feels it must have a repug on to
counter argue against the memo.

If this was solely a repug issue that they were pushing there wouldn't be any one to counter the arguements.
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:09 AM
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9. Good observation.....it waters it down.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:36 AM
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40. Don't look a gifthorse...
in the mouth.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:09 AM
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10. He's utterly creepy.
Yuck!
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 08:25 AM
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48. He Was VERY VERY Defensive!
He couldn't even control the expression on his face. He was really out of his element.

Steve was very good and calm and concise. This is helpful as he didn't come off as a WING-NUT!!!

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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:07 AM
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7. This caller sounds like a plant.....empty question
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:10 AM
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11. O.K...I'm going to SCREAM.....stop filling time!!!!!!
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:14 AM
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13. You know these "Clinton Lied, Kosovo was attacked too" people are idiots
When Clinton lied, nobody died and for Kosovo, that WAS A NATO WAR. The U.N. DEFERRED authority to the European Powers.

Get that shit straight, will you?
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joanski0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:15 AM
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14. Aylward says there is nothing new in
this story. Caller: Once again the left is doing everything it can to try to destroy a president. Caller is tearing down Clinton and how he lied and bombed Kosovo.

Cobble: You know the Admin. is in trouble when they start bringing up Clinton and what John Kerry said.

Caller: This president manufactured evidence to fake out the Congress and the people to take us into war. Alward says it's not true.

Cobble says two days before the war, Tony Blair changed his mind about needing a second UN resolution.
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joanski0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:24 AM
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25. Cobble says conservatives should
be on our side on this. Now a right-winger on yelling about everything. No declaration of war on Korea. Sadam ignored 14 resolutions. It is a sad sorry day in this country when the judicious left turns against their own country. I have nothing but hate for them.

Cobble: The bush admin did not set out the case for war. Wolfowitz admitted that, and then took it back. The didn't go to the American people and say let's go to Iraq and liberate these people.

Caller: Talking about impeachment. Aylward says they are not going to get there. Conyers is not the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee.

Cobble: Bush has a big problem here. Bush known as a straight shooter and we're talking about lies.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:16 AM
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15. He was actually trying to play it of as british wording
that wasn't what it seemed. Yeah right... fixing facts is pretty easy to understand. If that's all they got...ouch, Bush is in trouble.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:55 AM
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54. One of the talking points. Apologists use the "British wording"
excuse--as if most Americans don't speak English.

Be prepared to hear it again and again.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:17 AM
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16. ...
nm
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:17 AM
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17. "Truth is worth pursuing" whether or not it leads to removal
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 07:27 AM by katinmn
Right on.

edit: worse=worth. Big difference!
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:18 AM
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18.  He was actually trying to play it off as british wording.
Fixing facts is pretty straight forward and if that's all they've got, Bush could be in some trouble.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:19 AM
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19. caller pulling up Clinton again. Is that all they got?
Also discrediting the Brits. Dumb ass.

Caller has nothing but "hatred and contempt" for the left.
Waa waa waa. What a f****** Nazi!
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:21 AM
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20. That guy was a neuron or two away from thinking about blowing shit up
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 07:28 AM by MrScorpio
What a nutbag
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:26 AM
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29. I noticed that. He's probably beating his wife or dog right now.
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freedomburn Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:23 AM
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23. Bush won't be able to keep stonewalling on this as it moves up media. NT
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:21 AM
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21. Is that a DUer on right now?
Fess up! :)
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:23 AM
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22. Body language is revealing
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 07:24 AM by susu369
Aylward is nervous, edgy, arrogant, smirking, his eyes are shifting (certainly NOT "wizbang" {sic}).

Cobble is relaxed, assured, articulate.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:25 AM
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27. the RWinger called Cobble part of the "intelligentisia"
I would say that's a compliment.

Aylward has about two damaged brain cells, if that.
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:23 AM
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24. Has anyone ever noticed...
when the pro-nitwit callers get to talking they end up practically screaming? It always sounds like they're foaming at the mouth. They rant and rave and babble from one issue to another. They truly sound like nutcases! Progressive/liberal callers always seem under control and rational. They actually have some facts to share.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:24 AM
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26. the seditious left! the seditious left! the seditious left! the seditious
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freedomburn Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:25 AM
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28. They hate America! The seditious left! ::retch::
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:29 AM
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33. Really! Slip the guy a Valium or something!
That one sounded like he was a heartbeat away from a stroke. Definitely a candidate for a lifetime membership to a mental health center!
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:26 AM
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30. I got up for this crap n/t
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:27 AM
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31. I just took a look at Kevin's dipshit webblog
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 07:33 AM by MrScorpio
It's truly the product of an assclown

Why is this jerk debating such a serious subject on CSPAN?
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freedomburn Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:29 AM
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34. He even looks like a total ass clown.
Who does this guy's hair? Dairy Queen? What a fat ugly Republican ass face.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:31 AM
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35. he fits the stereotype, fer sure. Pale white and pudgey
and no sense of style
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:55 AM
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46. omg. did you see this link from his site? "demoncraticblunderground"
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:02 AM
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49. I'm amazed.C-Span chose him. Hardly a credible blogger
just stupid and juvenile. I think we should point this out to C-Span.

They gave this jerk an opportunity he didn't deserve.

He probably only gets 50 people to his site.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:41 AM
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50. truly one of the crappiest sites I have seen
I wonder if Brian Lamb personally picked him?
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:51 AM
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53. c-span picked him to use up time so few progressive calls got thru

anybody know when Kevin's blog went up? is it a product prepared for this a.m.s WJ?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:12 PM
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56. He's a rightwing shill
That's why. He knows the party talking points. I wonder if Rove promised him something....
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:27 AM
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32. keep it in context.... follow a thread.... is that us he's talking about?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:47 AM
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45. I was wondering that too
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 07:48 AM by leftchick
:hi: Hi Mr. Cobble!
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joanski0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:31 AM
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36. Tony Blair was lucky that he had
a three-way race or he wouldn't be there anymore. He got 35% of the vote.

Caller from France: Shocked. A European high school student knows more about history than the US politicans. We know more about what is going on in Iraq than the Americans.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:32 AM
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37. More French bashing
Fuck you, Kevin
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:33 AM
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38. He's a moron. I only caught the last few minutes, but the rightie
got his clocked clean.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:41 AM
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41. Des Moines Register as part of the French press!
I always thought they sounded a little too French to be from the heartland!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:35 AM
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39. About Clinton, they should be reminded....
he was impeached.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:42 AM
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42. The pigs clearly...
can't come up with a good defense on this one, so they're attacking Clinton, bashing the French, bringing up Korea, allying themselves with the New York Times - whatever. They're very desperate, and more or less admitting that it's true but saying nothing's going to happen anyway so shut up!
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:44 AM
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43. Anyone notice how Aylward stuck his nose up at Conyers?
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 07:47 AM by tinfoilinfor2005
"Unfortunately for you, you chose the wrong representative" (paraphrasing). Why does Pillsbury doughboy think Conyers is a poor choice? I think this little fart weasel is so pale because he wears a sheet and a pointed hat in his spare time.
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cornfedyank Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:45 AM
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44. when you talk to one of these "that's old news" folk
ask why if they are so proud of their war, why don't they pay for it now instead of putting it on the national credit card.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 08:23 AM
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47. Old news? Story broke in England last month...
Has not been reported very much at all in this country. They are afraid of the truth.
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dooner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:01 AM
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51. Give me a freaking break...
CSPAN did a crappy job. Why did they position this as a blogosphere topic? As though the idea of the Downing Street Minutes/Memo itself was a debatable conspiracy theory dreamt up by freaks wearing tin foil hats.

Don't they do any of their own analysis? Read any other sources? Give us
some legal experts for crying out loud!! This is outrageous. AND on air in the middle of the night. Give me a break.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:30 AM
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52. My favorite part of that exchange was how
the RW idiot tried to say the memo/minutes were nothing more than a "parsing" of words. "British phrases"....:rofl: The chimp can lie out of his ass about anything he wants and that idiot tried to twist the OFFICIAL MINUTES FROM AN OFFICIAL MEETING into "parsed words" ????? Friggin' hypocrite! THEN, he tried to say that none of that came from Bush...it came from a meeting with Tenet???? Oooooookay. :eyes:

And, of course, he had to spend a good amount of time talking about Clinton! Sorry, asshole, THIS is about the idiot-in-chief. You people own this one and there's not a fucking thing you can do to change that. Clinton, Clinton, Clinton, Clinton, Clinton, Clinton...talk about Clinton all you want, the CHIMP is a fucking liar and now the world will be able to see that with their own eyes. Ha!

They can't spin this one. Parsing words, MY ASS! :grr:
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:13 PM
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57. Ah-Hmmm... ;-)
the CHIMP is a fucking liar and now the world will be able to see that with their own eyes

IMHO, the world has already "seen" that (and for quite some time, actually)!

It's just that the chickenshits haven't noticed yet (and never will).

:rofl:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:47 PM
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58. Yeah, I know the world knows, but now it's in an OFFICIAL DOCUMENT.
There's no spinning this one. :7 The chickenshits HAVE noticed. They just don't give a shit! They don't care that he's a lying, warmongering murderer. They like his type....until they're threatened with a DRAFT to go fight his wars! :rofl: Watch 'em ALL become Democrats/Liberals/Progressives.
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