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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:55 PM
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"I'm a life-long Republican and I think George Bush sucks."
Isn't that what we need to hear from some real conservatives? Don't we need some Republicans to stand up and denounce what is going on? Has every single one of them drank the Bush kool-aid? Are they ready to go down with the ship? And the ship will go down. The writing is on the wall. No nation can continue on the path that we are on and survive. If the huge debt doesn't topple us, then world opinion will get us. We are in one helluva mess, in my opinion.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:57 PM
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1. You're right, kentuck, but without adequate health care coverage --
-- which the GOP themselves have gutted beyond recognition, who's gonna pay for all those spine transplants?

(Nice post)
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:00 PM
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2. Good question....
It appears they already are waking up, one by one....If Senator Voinovich and Craig Roberts are any indication....One by one, they come to their senses.....Reach into their conscience and realize something isn't right......Until all that remains is the freepers...

I guess they really don't want to go down with the ship's captains, after all. :o
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Somawas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:00 PM
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3. McCain and Voinovich seem to be making a few mild efforts
But it will take their leadership jumping Shubya's ship for it to start.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 07:17 AM
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19. which leadership would that be.. Frist and DeLay?
(i.e. don't hold your breath on THAT one)
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:03 PM
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4. There are some doing that now.
I have no idea how many, but my son works for Delta, and he's a true Dem. He's been arguing with all the Pubs about how bad Shrub was and their only response was that Shrub was against abortion and would keep those damn gays away from them.

Yesterday, he told me about 3 staunch Pubs who changed their minds! They had to take a 25% pay cut, had their copayment on their health ins increased, had their # of sick days and vacation days reduced, and their 401K program was adjusted (adversly of course.). Well, NOW, they see the light! Shrub's policies did do this to them!!!!

I've said it all along, people will not recognize there's a problem until it affects them personally! At least these 3 guys proved me right.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:05 PM
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5. I will tell you the reason
They side with their side no matter what so they won't look bad and lose elections. Yeah, they know bush sucks but if they attack him too they lose votes next election.

How many dems were against clinton out in the open during his time? The right was asking the same questions 'he lied under oath, and the dems don't care', 'okie city was an inside job', 'waco was a gov sponsored killing of kids over gun ownership' and the list goes on.

They did not expect too many dems to cross over and attack clinton, and I don't expect too many to cross over and want bush out. They do know he sucks - read fr at a fine tuned level and you will see there are quite a few people disgusted with bush over some issues - but they still think he would be better then a dem on a broader scale.

Here on DU we were not supposed to be attacking the candidate of choice after the primaries - we figured the rw would be doing enough of that. The right sees it the same way now - bush is their man, and while he may be bad in some ways he is better then the alternative.

Both sides are afraid to openly attack and hold accountable their own people in a public way. Like terrorism and bush fear rules both parties when it comes to keeping them on the ball. So in the end, the politicians win, and we lose.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 07:14 AM
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18. Keen Insights!
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HuskiesHowls Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:08 PM
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6. Some were saying that before the election
and as far as life-long republicans saying it, John Eisenhower said it loud and clear, and changed his registration to independent and voted for Kerry.
John Eisenhower: Why I will vote for John Kerry for President

http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=44657
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Joe Kerr Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:31 PM
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7. Wouldn't you call them real liberals at that point?
"Isn't that what we need to hear from some real conservatives?"
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:40 PM
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10. Not imho.
To me, Republicanism is for fiscal responsibility, a strong middle class (which drives spending and strengthens the economy), a strong military used sparingly, and personal responsibility rather than an all encompassing safety net.

With this administration we have uncontrolled spending, a tax policy that sucks the middle class dry while rewarding the rich, an overextended military used for false pretenses, and a complete failure to accept personal responsibility for anything whatsoever.

I pray that the 2004 election was stolen, because I'd hate to think 50% of us would vote for these people.
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Joe Kerr Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:54 PM
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13. Then I'm a Republican.
"To me, Republicanism is for fiscal responsibility, a strong middle class (which drives spending and strengthens the economy), a strong military used sparingly, and personal responsibility rather than an all encompassing safety net."
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:34 PM
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8. I'm here saying it.
Makes me sick other republicans haven't woken up.
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BlueStateBlue Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:34 PM
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9. My mother and my employer, ages 79 and 78 respectively
were both life long republicans until this idiot came along. Now they're both as disgusted with * as I am. My employer even went so far as to state that she couldn't vote in this Tuesday's primary (governor) because she's a registered Republican. "If they think I'm about to vote for any of those clowns, they've got another think coming!" She's now completely against the Republicans, even on the state level. :woohoo:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:46 PM
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11. i heard from my neighbor who just flew in from Houston..he is a ....
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 11:53 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
lifer republican who lives in Houston but owns a mountian cabin in NY and he just said that same thing to me yesterday and is begging us "democrats to win this next election cycle and fix the mess bush has made"...he also said, "i will be voting Democratic this time."

this man is as Bible thumbing born againer as anyone can possibly get...i almost broke my chin from it hitting the ground...i swear this man and his family are fundies to the MAX ...


THE TIDE IS TURNING!!!

FUCK IT HAS TURNED!!!
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:51 PM
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12. Wow now that is a shocker.....That's jaw dropping!!
I guess the brigade finally came back to reality, and realized dominionist talking points are a recipe for disaster eh?

:wow:
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:03 AM
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14. "...But at least he's not a Democrat."
THAT, unfortunately, is the suffix placed on 99% of the republican "Bush sucks" statements. They may think Bush sucks, and even most repuke politicians, but they're frequently able to find a reason to support the GOP front anyway on the grounds that the Dems are worse. A lot of the republican voters are disaffected cynics who've believed the worst of central government for decades -- and can't make the connection that their own dim vision has become a self-fulfilling prophecy!

It will not be enough to demonstrate to them how leaky their own boat is if they think the alternative has already sunk.
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Pockets Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:05 AM
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15. Repugs eat their own...
I guess it's nice that Repugs are coming out against * but after all it's a political off season, they have no use for * anymore. We haven't even made it through 6/6/6 yet... I would recommend that we stay alert.
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Dee625 Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:07 AM
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16. Some are aware, but then they disconnect.
Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 12:08 AM by Dee625
Shortly before the general elections, I had a conversation with a co-worker who I knew to be a conservative Republican. He initiated the conversation as I guess he had come to quite a few realizations about the shrub.

He proceeded to tell me exactly what was wrong with *'s economic policies, the war, healthcare policies, etc. (There were more and he nailed it all). I was standing there with my jaw on the floor unable to speak.

Then he concluded with "but I have to vote for him because he is a Christian". Any furthur questioning was answered with that "logic".

:banghead:
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Pockets Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:12 AM
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17. Similar experience here...
I friend of mine agreed with Kerry and against Bush on every single issue... except one... abortion... so he voted for the monkey.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 07:43 AM
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20. Means nothing if they'll still vote for him*.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 08:23 AM
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21. Just because they said they voted for * doesn't mean they did.
Their public face and what the vote in private may be 2 separate things.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 08:26 AM
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22. Any American who fails to educate themselves about the crimes...
...against the Constitution and against ALL OF HUMANITY committed by the Bush administration, and fails to step up and denouce them, is shamefully anti-American!:grr:
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 08:29 AM
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23. That would require an ounce of moral courage.
Too bad that is a lacking commodity among most republicans I know.

They are just like their glorious leader, they refuse to admit mistakes.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 08:40 AM
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24. I think life-long republicans suck
they can all go to hell
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Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 08:46 AM
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25. I know of some Reps who think that Bush sucks but
they still feel that the Dems suck even more, unfortunately. They're still in denial about how dangerous Bush is to their own country.
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