Karen Kwiatkawski (windows media video)

[doublethink]

28 minutes in length, if you can't watch it now then bookmark it! In this interview she states how the Pentagon Neo-cons emphasized "Fixing Intelligence to fit the Policy" in going to war with Iraq. "Reality is never a Constraint for the Neo-Cons". A must see if you never have, tell me this doesn't sound a bit too familiar along with The Downing Street Minutes ..... very relevant, please keep this kicked for awhile.
Peace. :) ........

Lieutenant Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski, is a retired U.S. Air Force officer whose assignments included duties as a Pentagon desk officer and in a variety of roles for the National Security Agency. Since retiring, she has become a noted critic of the U.S. government's involvement in Iraq. Kwiatkowski is primarily known for her insider essays that denounce a corrupting political influence on the course of military intelligence leading up to the invasion of Iraq in 2003. -snip-

video here .... http://www.blip.tv/link/59

[ewagner]

1. I wondered what

happened to her......

she's an eye-witness to the crap that went on in the intelligence community

[doublethink]

2. Yep modern day whistle blower ......

well actually along with Richard Clark, Paul Oneal ... on and on, I guess the Downing Street Minutes are the only actual Government Documents (albeit British) .... to at least lead to impeachment hearings but God knows there are enough credible witnesses out there on this stuff. :) Peace.

[Just Me]

44. We MUST surround these people with unconditional support!!!

They need a sense of security, too. Let's give it to them!!!

:kick:

[doublethink]

45. ..........

:patriot:

[BrklynLiberal]

3. Hope she stays out of small private planes.

[merh]

4. She is a hero.

:patriot: If only we could get the rest of our citizens to pay attention to the truth. :argh:

[doublethink]

5. Back at ya ......

:patriot:

[JohnyCanuck]

6. Karen Kwiatkowski and Sibel Edmonds are both courageous.

individuals whose stories just happen to be studiously ignored by the corporate media. Now why on earth would that be the case? </sarcasm>

www.justacitizen.org

[Vadem]

7. Thank you for this! Saul Landau has been a friend of mine for..

many years! I loved his interview with Karen K....!

[doublethink]

9. Wow say hi to Saul for us here at DU !!!

and the thanks goes to him for doing this interview! :) .... Karen K sure sums up quite a bit on the Neo-Con mindset, group think, propaganda in this 28 minutes. Geesh .... Peace. :)

[Al-CIAda]

8. thanks -kick n/t

[berni_mccoy]

10. HOLY MACKERAL!!!

She's going to be CRUCIAL to pushing the DSM through the Republican Congress!!!

EVERYONE Watch this Video!!!

Get this woman in touch with Conyers!!!

[Coexist]

11. Can someone please book this woman on every talking head show

that exists?! Please. Wow, what an interview.

[Just Me]

32. She should be booked as a witness in an impeachment proceeding.

Yes?

I hope the forces are gathering against the corrupt, corporate, slaughtering machine.

[Coexist]

33. I would hope so!

[Just Me]

37. I am just so sick of their unprincipled, bloody exploitation of people.

This shit must cease!!!

These war-profiteers have such an ugly and ruthless history. They must be stopped, these money-grubbing tyrants.

[Garbo 2004]

12. Thanks! I've read her articles and seen her in documentaries.

She provided insight into the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans and how the intel was skewed to support the policy when the real intel didn't support the policy long before the Downing Street Minutes were released. The DSM release is just the latest confirmation via Britain of what Pentagon/intel insiders have said for some time.

Thanks again for the link. :)

[doublethink]

15. Yep that sums it up too .....

Funny how all this info is out there ..... and if stuff like this would only be shown in the MSM ..... why do I think our problems concerning the Bush administration would be solved? Am I still giving America too much credit for having a brain to get it around this information if they saw it? Sigh ... anyway here's another link for those with a dial-up, low band width to the same video ...

http://video.csupomona.edu/streaming/inc/ht_index.html

just scroll down to Karen Kwiatkawski. Peace. :)

[BigBearJohn]

13. She should debate Mehlman instead of Russert doing it.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!! Sending it to EVERYONE

[The Doctor.]

14. Can't get the video to play...

do I have to sign up or download something?

[doublethink]

17. Try the link I just put on post #15 ... above

:) peace.

[alfredo]

16. It won't work. can someone copy and convert it to another

format that works for the rest of us? I have WMA. but for some reason it will not work.

[doublethink]

18. Go to post 17 which will lead you too ....

post 15 above which has an alternate link :bounce: Peace. :)

[alfredo]

19. thanks. I will save it for the morning. It appears there are a lot

I want to hear.


Anyway, I got the munchies. Got to eat something, anything. Now.

[LunaC]

23. Working link

ElsewheresDaughter posted this yesterday:

http://mistakesweremade.com/vid/karenkwiatkowski-035.wmv

[JohnyCanuck]

20. This deserves a well placed kick. n/t

[dogonarug]

21. Kick

[satya]

22. Kicked, watched, recommended, sharing...thanks! n/t

[Vyan]

24. Yes...

Karen's been speaking out for quite some time, I first heard her on an NPR interview. Will certainly check out the video.

Here is my own write up on that NPR interview:

Lt. Col Karen Kwiatkowski is a Pentagon Insider.

As an aide in the Office of Special Plans she had direct involvment with the planning process, or lack thereof, leading up to the invasion of Iraq. She spoke recently on NPR and discussed how skeptical those in the military were of extravagant claims of WMD's in Iraq. Contrary to many in Congress it seems, members of the military at the upper echelons of the Pentagon had direct access to un-redacted intelligence information and could see that the evidence of Iraqi WMD's was quite thin, and unsubstantial, just as the recently released Comprehensive CIA Report on IRAQ by the ISG (Iraq Survey Group) lead by Charles Duelfer, has described.

Kwiatkoski describes an environment leading up to War where the military experts on what should be done and how were either ignored or like accused of being traitors by political appointees of the Bush Administration. Long before the actual War began it was clear that facts, truth and experience were far less important to these people that propogating their grand plan to remake Iraq into a "free-market paradise".
"About that same time, my education on the history and generation of the neoconservative movement had completed its first stage. I now understood that neoconservatism was both unhistorical and based on the organizing construct of “permanent revolution.” I had studied the role played by hawkish former Sen. Scoop Jackson (D-Wash.) and the neoconservative drift of formerly traditional magazines like National Review and think tanks like the Heritage Foundation. I had observed that many of the neoconservatives in the Pentagon not only had limited military experience, if any at all, but they also advocated theories of war that struck me as rejections of classical liberalism, natural law, and constitutional strictures. More than that, the pressure of the intelligence community to conform, the rejection of it when it failed to produce intelligence suitable for supporting the “Iraq is an imminent threat to the United States” agenda, and the amazing things I was hearing in both Bush and Cheney speeches told me that not only do neoconservatives hold a theory based on ideas not embraced by the American mainstream, but they also have a collective contempt for fact.

By August, I was morally and intellectually frustrated by my powerlessness against what increasingly appeared to be a philosophical hijacking of the Pentagon. Indeed, I had sworn an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, but perhaps we were never really expected to take it all that seriously …"On the day that the Iraq War began, Kwiatkoski left her post at the Pentagon and has been writing for the American Conservative. What she has to say about the inner workings of the Bush Administration in relation to the military and intelligence used to justify the War on Iraq is chilling.

A profile of Lt. Col Karen Kwiatkoski and more articles are available on Military Week.com

Vyan

[NeoGreen]

25. Speech on DVD?

I am stuck on a slow dial up, and would like to see this speech. So I was wondering if it would be possible to obtain a DVD copy of this speech via a donation to DU or any other reasonable source (e.g. Gore's speech via moveon.org)?

[doublethink]

27. Go to this link .......

and scroll down to 'Karen Kwiatowski', then click on 'low bandwidth' bellow her name. It's a link for slow dial up modems so you can watch it online. :) That should work, give it a little while to connect. If that doesn't work then e-mail the site, it was done at Cal Poly Pomona and they may be able to get it on DVD for you. But the link here should work. All the best. Peace. :)

THIS LINK HERE ... http://video.csupomona.edu/streaming/inc/ht_index.html

[doublethink]

48. Ever get to see it?

Hope so .... :) Peace.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

26. I have read Kwiatowski's articles for several years now, and she is

a true American hero.

[progressoid]

28. "not the kind of people that America as a nation is proud of"

great quote about neocons

[cthrumatrix]

29. mandatory viewing...let's see Hnanity invite her on for debate

[Just Me]

30. She's one of many eyewitnesses to intentional deception utilized,...

,...by Bushco & the neoCONs.

[doublethink]

43. Yep lotta deep throats out there ....

this shit wouldn't fly back in the 70's when we had MSM access. Ya think? :think: Peace. :)

[FreedomAngel82]

31. This is a powerful video

She clearly said they already had the policey made and were pushing it foward. Wow! I wish we could have hearings now and get her on there to testify! And you can tell watching the video she clearly knows what she is talking about. She's very clear and articulate and she gave background on herself. Of course because she didn't work in the actual group people could spin this around but she was apart of a sister group and knew the people pretty well. I hope she speaks up more often and stays safe. Thank you for this video!

[Roland99]

34. A GREAT article and the Hjacking Catastrophe video

The new Pentagon papers - By Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/03/10/osp_moveon/

Hijacking Catastrophe - by Karen Kwiatkowski (Lt. Col. USAF retired)
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6895.htm
Hijacking Catastrophe is powerful, understated, straightforward and educational. In a single meticulously organized hour of evidence and analysis, viewers are treated to a thoughtful explanation of modern American empire, neo-conservatism as a driving force for the current Bush administration.

Direct-link to video:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/video1/hijacking_catastrophe.rm


Book:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1566565812/qid=1098245105/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/002-4468077-5068015?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

[doublethink]

36. Thanks for these links ....

and love the bumper stickers in your signature line. :) peace.

[cthrumatrix]

35. a must watch.....everyone

[G_j]

38. The Lie Factory

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2004/01/12_405.html

The Lie Factory

Late last year, a special Mother Jones investigation detailed how, only weeks after 9/11, the Bush administration set up a secret Pentagon unit to create the case for invading Iraq. Here is the inside story of how they pushed disinformation and bogus intelligence and led the nation to war.

By Robert Dreyfuss and Jason Vest

January/February 2004 Issue

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Lt. Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski


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[Hatalles]

39. Are the blogs on top of this?

I'd like to see this on as many blogs as possible. If we can get this video on a large number of progressive blogs, we can push this *at least* onto that blog segment on CNN... and that's a start. Can we get this ball rolling?

[doublethink]

40. Well I hope everyone is blast e-mailing this Video ....

to all the blogs, but I haven't seen it anywhere else yet today. I will blast my list now. Hope everyone else does the same. Blast Away! Karen K. just re-confirms the Downing Street Memos from inside the Pentagon. Timing is everything ..... Peace. :)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

41. Kick!

[Just Me]

42. This woman must be brought front and center.

And all those like her (about 150 of them) must be brought front and center.

The fight for America is NOW!!!!

[G_j]

46. kick

[G_j]

47. ===

[marions ghost]

49. Excellent!

I thought I would watch just a couple minutes of this video but it was so riveting, ended up watching the whole clip. Kwiatkowski has an excellent command of the issues and speaks very clearly. It's refreshing to see such honesty from someone in the higher levels of govt service. Kwiatkowski has a way of saying a whole lot of critical stuff in a very matter-of-fact tone. I think she got her head rearranged at the Pentagon and is trying to overcome the insanity induced by what she witnessed. And she seems to feel some sense of responsibility to the American people...yes, she'd be a good witness at the trial.
:kick:
Everybody, watch at least a few mins of this!

[marions ghost]

50. KICK

:thumbsup:

[doublethink]

51. Thanks for keeping this thread alive a bit longer ...

:thumbsup: and for those that missed it over the weekend, or for the early morning viewers ....
:kick: Peace. and keep up the good fight. :)

[JohnyCanuck]

52. Be sure to send the link for this video clip to Aaron Brown

DUer Vyan started a thread last night on the DSM report carried on Aaron Brown's program "Newsnight."

From Vyan's thread:
Tonight on "Newsnight With Aaron Brown" the second report aired was an extensive piece on the Downing Street Minutes (still referred to as a "Memo" by the report), emphasizing primarily the lack of response stateside compared to the uproar abroad, as well as the potential explosiveness of it's contents.

Both President Bush and Prime Minister Blair's recent denial ("Somebody said, well, you know, we had made up our mind to use military force to deal with Saddam. There's nothing farther from the truth,") of the key elements of the minutes were repeated during the report, but these were taken with more a pinch of salt by correspondents as the fact that previous allegations by both former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill and former Counter-Terrorism Chief Richard Clarke were re-iterated without spin.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1534708

The way I see it, it can't hurt if we let Aaron Brown know that the internet savy are also aware that the incriminating charges in the DSM, are backed up by the very credible and persuasive testimony of Lt. Colonel Kiwatowski who claims whe witnessed what amounted to manipulation of the intelligence by the neocons in the OSP to support a previously made decision to go to war with Iraq.

Email [e-mail] or the CNN feedback page for Aaron Brown is http://edition.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4.html?3

[doublethink]

53. I'm On It ....

:patriot: Thank's For Aaron's links. It's on it's way..... Peace. :)