New Bolton scandal re: NSA intercept - it's STILL not over yet....

[housewolf]

MAJOR SCOOP: Assistant Secretary of State Bill Burns & Libya the Subjects of One Bolton NSA Intercept Request

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Second, this shows that Bolton was in fact spying on his colleagues and their work. In this case, Bill Burns was his target.

The Bolton Battle is getting ready to rev up again -- and this news on Bolton, Burns and Libya may turn a number of other U.S. Senators against his nomination.

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/000700.html

[izzybeans]

1. Isn't this treason? Espionage? nt

[glitch]

Spying on Americans - sure sounds like it. nt

[izzybeans]

42. I just wanted to be sure because the obviousness of it was starting to

fool me.

[sabra]

2. "spying on his colleagues "

yeah, that's not a good thing...

[in_cog_ni_to]

3. Hmmm. drip, drip, drip.

Perhaps we will have the entire list of people Bolton was spying on BEFORE the Senate vote on his confirmation? Leak, drip, leak, drip, leak, drip.

[Coexist]

6. you-owe-me-a-beer

there, I said THAT first at least!!!

Great minds and all.

[in_cog_ni_to]

10. LOL! Cheers!

To great minds! :toast:

[Coexist]

4. Drip, drip, drip, let's hope it never ends until the flood sweeps him away

[DearAbby]

5. Send this info to Reid, Kerry & Boxer

[Triana]

7. Send this to Reid, Kerry, Boxer and BIDEN (n/t)

[The Witch]

9. Send this to every Senator, D or R

[Norquist Nemesis]

8. I'm still wondering if one of those classified companies

that were blacked out is the company that was cover for Valerie Plame.

[housewolf]

11. Oh not THAT would be something, wouldn't it?

I never thought of that. That would REALLY make this thing interesting, wouldn't it?

[Norquist Nemesis]

13. It's what makes me wonder why Bush still holds fast to his

nomination. Is Bush just be stubborn showing his "resolve"? Or is it a coverup?

If Bolten goes in as UN Ambassador, so much more could be potentially classified. I also think they would try and pull a diplomatic immunity type of defense.

Bolten has the temperament to take revenge. That's known. The question is, did he do a "good deed" for the CIC to try and intimidate a critic of Bush (Wilson) by outing his wife?

Bush is also known to be loyal to those who are loyal to him. Is this Bolten's paycheck?

[housewolf]

16. Voinovich knows the "why" of Bolton's nomination

He said on the seante floor that he knew why the admin had to nominate Bolton, and said that he'd tell any senator who came to his office. I haven't heard any more of the story since then, however.

Man oh man, would I LOVE to know that one!

[Norquist Nemesis]

20. Wow!!!

Just a great big :wow:

I sure hope Obama, Durbin, Reid, and a few select others hustle right into his chambers. Saying that without saying what it is...that's big!

[in_cog_ni_to]

23. Voinovich should tell "WE THE PEOPLE"

WE have a right to know! I wonder if WE went to his office if he would tell us??????

[housewolf]

26. I don't know...

but you could call up his office and ask, see if they'll tell you.


Then come back here and tell US.... :evilgrin:

[in_cog_ni_to]

30. I'm not one of his constituents or I would call him.

;) They wouldn't tell me anything if a vote isn't on the line. Any DUers from Ohio want to call Voinovich????

[roseBudd]

21. you said, Is this Bolten's paycheck? Bolton stopped the FL recount

in at least one county

[Norquist Nemesis]

25. Forgot about that one

He's certainly 'moving on up'! Well, the higher he goes, the more protections he gets. Paycheck.

[in_cog_ni_to]

18. The reason the WH is hiding the list

has to be SOMETHING HUGE...like your Plame scenario. Wouldn't that be an interesting twist?! Whatever they're hiding....IT'S BIG, HUGE, EXPLOSIVE.

[Norquist Nemesis]

22. One thing about National Security

Throughout last week with the talk of Deep Throat unmasking himself, one interview (can't recall for certain but I think it was Bradlee), he had said that when they (the Government) are using National Security as a reason to do or not do something it should be suspect. Especially at the level it was being used.

John Dean has stated publicly and written about all of the parallels he sees between the corrupt Nixon administration and Bush et al. So, it wouldn't suprise me if Bolten were a key part of the Plame outing. He wasn't the guy I had pegged as Novak's direct source, but you never know.

[housewolf]

24. Current theory seems to be that what Biden and the other Dems

on the Foreign Relations committee are looking for is the names of the Americans on the NSA intercepts Bolton requested. They're trying to find out WHO he requested the documents for and what he did with the information.

Senators Jay Rockefeller and Pat Roberts of the Intelligance Committee have seen the intercepts but with the names redacted. They don't seem to think that there was any problem with the fact that Bolton requested the info but, without knowing who the subjects of the intercepts are, it's unknows why he asked for the info.

[Norquist Nemesis]

27. okay...since when does one Senate Committee usurp

another's duties? Why is another committee giving the review of documents asked for by another committee in the course of it's Constitutional responsibiity? And why did the Administration send it to the Intelligence Committee for an up or down review but not the committee requesting the information?

Too many questions. This smells like...(shhhhhh---coverup)

[housewolf]

32. Because the administration would only give it to the Intelligence Committe

They flat out refused to give it to Senator Lugar when he made the request for the Foreign Relations committee. They made up some "rule" that because it was classifed info that they would only give it to the Intelligence Committe, and then only to the Chair and Co-Chair, they wouldn't let anyone else see it.

[housewolf]

31. It's hard to know, at this point...

whether the WH is refusing the information based on the content of the info or whether they're just playing a power game with the Senators. They even refused the info to Senator Lugar, the Repub chair of the committee processing the Bolton nomination. In essense, the WH is stonewalling Congressional oversight, standing in the way of Congress' constitutional responsibility.

We even had people like Scott McClellen saying stuff like "the senate doesn't need any more information" - as if it's HIS job to determine what the senate needs in order to do its job!

The hunger and drive for power grabbing of this administration is just stunning.

[Norquist Nemesis]

33. Hell! They wouldn't even turn it over to Frist!

That doesn't sound like a power play to me. FRIST!!

That's hiding something.

[sandnsea]

36. Halliburton, Malaysian Co. & Pakistan

Khan & a Malaysian Company were in a cahoots, selling nuclear material. The Malaysian Company was also contracted with Halliburton. There's so much dirt to expose, it's hard to keep up with.

[Just Me]

37. Whoah. That would be so freaky,...

,...and wouldn't one want to know whether Bolten or the other neoCONs are deeply involved in war-profiteering by that company.

Intriguing.

[tex-wyo-dem]

12. Bolton, the DSM, Plame, pre-war cooking of intelligence...

it is all related.

IMO, Bolton is the link behind all the crimes behind getting us into the Iraq war, and is why the State Dept. is guarding documents. There has got to be some very damning information they are withholding.

[in_cog_ni_to]

14. I just emailed this to Durbin and Obama.

With a reminder to take the Downing Street Minutes and IMPEACH the entire Bush administration. :7

[Norquist Nemesis]

15. I hope Obama pays attention

because, if nothing else, the other side pays attention to him. There will be some whhaaaaa??? if he includes this and speaks out about it.

[in_cog_ni_to]

17. Me too.

Obama has a lot of respect for a Junior Senator.

I must say though, he and Durbin have BOTH ignored my emails about the Downing Street Minutes and I have emailed them 3 times about the issue. I'm hoping they are behind closed doors with Kerry and other Dems, pushing the issue to the floor.

[Botany]

19. Every Day he is ehld up more stuff comes out on him .......

...... and the harder it will be for him to get the votes. Call Senators and
ask 'em do you want a man who forced his first wife to have sex with
strangers as he watched and played with himself to be our face at the UN?

[cthrumatrix]

28. and we want him to represent the US...WHY? Isn't there anybody

who isn't involved with "darkness"?

[Norquist Nemesis]

29. Who's this "we" Kemosabi? n/t

[housewolf]

34. You got that right! n/t

[wakeme2008]

35. Somebody from Ohio should call Voinovich office with

this... A call from a voter carries more weight.... :)

[housewolf]

38. Voinovich is on our side on this issue

He's trying to get other Republicans to vote with him against Bolton. He is VERY strongly opposed to Bolton.

[wakeme2008]

39. Right but does he have this info it may be new to him

probably not but just in case.

[housewolf]

40. His office has it...

whether he personally has been able to process it or not, I can't say.

Apparantly the intel community is leaking info about Bolton, we may be seeing more this week.

[Just Me]

41. kick

:kick:

[Coexist]

43. kicking with hope