Kerry DSM speech NOT happening today according to his Washington Office.

[mzmolly]

I just spoke to Kerry's Washington office and they said that Kerry will be bringing up the issue of the DSM but not today.

Edited to add: Apparently the Senate/Congress is not in session today? :shrug: Thanks to ARNHEIM for this information.

I was assured that he will definitely be taking up the issue on the Senate Floor as soon as possible.

Sorry to bear bad news. I guess we'll have to be patient.

Please recommend so everyone sees this.

Thanks.

[fooj]

1. Kick and recommend!

:kick:

[FreedomAngel82]

2. I wonder what's up

and why he's not in DC. Anybody know where he is?

[mzmolly]

3. No, they wouldn't give specifics. Just said he'll likely return tomorrow.

They also said they don't have the Senate schedule but that he will be speaking on the matter as soon as possible.

I wonder if he wanted to do some more prep work? I dunno. Perhaps he's gathering internal support?

[Just Me]

11. Could be.

*LOL* Can you imagine the kind of blockbuster this could become? After all, there are a LOT of former military and intelligence and diplomats gathering forces.

Ahhhh,...it's those kind of dreams that sustain me.

[Just Me]

4. Hmmmm. Yeah,...me, too.

In a way, I am kind of enjoying that the suspense is being prolonged.

[mzmolly]

7. Keeping folks on their toes.

LOL

[knowbody0]

8. quack quack quack

[Just Me]

12. ROTFLMAO!!!!

:rofl:

[gordianot]

23. Hope he stays off of Private or Chartered Aircraft.

[SmileMaker]

52. Deleted

[ConfuZed]

5. Wow I saw it coming. n/t

[mzmolly]

9. What's "it" ?

:shrug:

[merh]

10. If you "saw it coming"

Can you please give me the winning lotto numbers? :shrug:

:silly:

[ConfuZed]

15. LOL! n/t

:thumbsup:

[savannahana]

62. 41, 38, 46, 8, 27, 30 (you had to ask, MERHcedes Ruehls...)

From my latest take-out fortune cookie,
with the egg roll, pork lo mein, & kung pao chicken.

It also says:

"Learn Chinese: Bank = Yin-Hang" :eyes:

and on the reverse:

"The whole world is a narrow bridge;
the important thing is not to be afraid."
:think: :wow:


All of which has revealed to me that:

1. Sherman Skolnick is Mothman. :+ (((Mr. S.: I joke)))

2. Mandatory public (lame) duck sauce immersion via confessional hottub/steam-table therapy is the answer to most of our :sarcasm: tragic Senatorial dilemmas :sarcasm: ... (worthy and honorable members of that body noted & excepted; and such members invited to manage staging of the "collegial" thermostatic *shock and awe*)

3. Regarding whatever ails this buffoon buffet of tremulous chopsticks & stale *oil-&-prophecy-soaked* Lo!~Mainstream noodles served up to us as our "Representatives" of the House, an urgent curative regimen is indicated (once again, worthy & honorable exceptions noted & exempted: and ^^^MR. CONYERS^^^ nominated as Doctor Emeritus of Courage): ideally, a relentless regimen of hot mustard sauce enemas, to be administered:

(A) by extraordinary rendition back to their home districts, in the sole custody of their actual majority constituencies whose net personal incomes are (well-)under $50,000 per year; this for a term not less than the duration of the supremely-enlightening chickensquawk junket of mental, emotional, & moral tarring & feathering it takes them to prepare to

i) bring a Bill of IMPEACHMENT against this entire ILLEGAL HUBRIS-MADDENED DYNASTICALLY-TOXIC EVIL & CORRUPT malAdministration composed of internationally-cronied-up Fascist War Criminals, Poot-Option Fear-Merchants, and Human Misery Index Profiteers; committers of systematic Terracide and premeditated conspiratorial serial-genocide upon Terra's/Gaia's children; Nosferatus of the public trust; NeoConster delusional psychopaths; treasonous abrogators of their oaths of (pseudo)office; and plain old Liars, Cowards, and Hypocrits;

ii) repeal the Patriot {TYRANNY} Acts;

iii) craft straightforward, transparent, and unequivocal legislation for :patriot:Voter Verified Paper Ballots:patriot:; likewise for

iv) Universal Health Care;

v) anti-usury protection for the People, and enforcement of fiscal transparency and full accountability upon all government agencies and agents, and all public servants, both elected and appointed;

vi) total renunciation of their servile and orgiastic addiction to their $$$Corporate$$$ Dominatrix in *all* of her rank loop-holied multi-orifaced "legal", elitist, propagandistic guises;

vii) abandonment of their practice of forcing *US* - The People, THEIR EMPLOYER, to suck on the noxious tailpipe of their "omnibus" stealth-billing habits;

& etc. (how many pre-2006 legislative lotto numbers you wanna bet?){put your own Reclaim America Laundry List here}; and

(B) with ex-lax regularity :evilgrin: via their willing submission of themselves into our O8) tender mercies here @ DU O8) (where we enjoy an unlimited supply of Constitutional hot mustard sauce & scores of inquisitionally-skilled wielders of liberally-purgative grassroots-intelligence-technology; plus an uninventoried but ample surplus of FReepie sockpuppet enema bags & troll-life tubing).


:mad: fed-up disgusted :mad: :rant:


hey merh, you gonna make that lotto run, right?? :hi:
it's a new moon, after all! :thumbsup:

[merh]

64. LOL - those my good numbers!

How the heck are ya!

I sure like your rant - you seem to be feeling chipper today. ;-)

Sounds like good friends and taking time for yourself has helped out. :hug:

Lotto drawing is Wednesday, will these work then?

Take care my friend, keep those rants a coming. :thumbsup:

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[savannahana]

65. "chipper"...hmm...is that as in "been through the woodchipper"? LOL

Return of lucid dreams last night, maybe?? :-)

I'm good-enough, and thanks merh :hug:

Didn't get any of my own laundry done,
& "Mr Savannah" has made our dinner,
but hey: I reckon I've had this rant in me
ever since they threw me out of Methodist
Sunday School some 40 years ago.

:hippie:

Wednesday oughtta be excellent for those #s -
moon'll be verging into its "Warrior Phase"
along about then!

Eagles & Larks, Eagles & Larks :thumbsup:

(((((((((((:patriot:Ordinary Good Souled People Power Ripple Effect:patriot:)))))))))))

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[merh]

66. Tell the Cat Whisper hello!

Give him a hug from me and tell him to give you a hug for me.!

Eagles & Larks!!! :thumbsup:

:hug:

[sabra]

6. Thanks for the heads up!

[fob]

13. Dammit. Come on John you gotta get this in the media before a

goddamned Jacko verdict comes in and drowns out ALL news for a week!

[Ezlivin]

14. Jam tomorrow and jam yesterday, but no jam today

I hope we don't keep hearing that it'll be "tomorrow."

Not that the suspense is killing me or anything... :shrug:

[understandinglife]

16. Wisdom: timing and tension. He is exerting control of both. (nt)

http://www.intelligencesquad.com/id118.html

Peace.

We have all the evidence of mendacity and illegal war-making we need to indict and prosecute Bush, Blair and every other neoconster scum-bag on the planet having any involvement in the Bush's illegal war on Iraq and all the torture and other atrocities that have been committed since August 2002.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[mzmolly]

18. Hmmm,

Interesting thought.

[me b zola]

21. awesome graphic

...and oh, so telling. Yes, I believe that Kerry's experience as a prosecutor is going to do us proud.

Thanks, UL :hi:

[me b zola]

17. I take this as a positive

Today is a short day on the hill, and, he may very well be putting his ducks in a row.

We're with you, Senator Kerry, go get 'em!!

[rateyes]

19. kick n/t

[Jo March]

20. Kerry's rep emailed Diane Reames this morning

Diane was discussing the DSM this morning and a rep from Kerry's office emailed her to say that Congress is not in session today but that Kerry was going to definately address "it" - meaning the Minutes.

[mzmolly]

22. Ahh, thanks for clarifying. I'll edit my post!

I wonder why the office didn't say so ? Sheesh!

[Jo March]

28. It was a fluke that I caught the comment at all

Usually I'm at work.

Conyers called in to the show as well! He was great! Wish all of you guys could have heard it.

Lots of callers - sounded like lots of DU folks - well-spoken, knowledgable folks who were very passionate about the Minutes.

[FreedomAngel82]

29. Do you know

if the show has archives?

[Jo March]

31. I would imagine that it does

I guess you could check at www.npr.org, maybe? I can search around too.

[mzmolly]

32. So very glad you did!

Thanks. Wish I'd have caught it too.

[LittleClarkie]

35. Wait a cotton-pickin' minute

The Senate is in session, but the House is not. Why would he need the House in session? (part of me is thinking that maybe the impeachment meme was right, as impeachment proceedings have to start in the House.)

[mzmolly]

54. OOOOOOOOOHhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

:freak: :party:

[in_cog_ni_to]

24. Damn. Stale popcorn for tomorrow.

:cry: or the next day? :cry: or the next day? :cry:

My luck it will be tomorrow when I HAVE to be gone. :cry: shit. I hate stale popcorn. :popcorn:

[pacalo]

25. One thing I've learned about Kerry is that he plans carefully

before acting. He's getting his ducks in a row, imo.

I'm sure he's aware that the media has been presumptiously putting words in his mouth about impeachment, so he may feel a need for garnering more support in the Senate. Perhaps the media's presumptiousness will work in our favor & Kerry will feel goaded into making it a mission to impeach the SOB.

[FreedomAngel82]

30. Could be possible

I thought that they never met on Monday's? :shrug: I thought I read that somewhere once. Or is that just on holiday's that end in a week or begins at one? :shrug: I just hope something does happen.

[Katidid]

26. I hope so ... I am so tired of being disappointed ...

along with the in-house fighting about whether Dean speaks for the Democrats or not ... that Bolton will probably be approved because there aren't enough votes to block...etc.

Sorry folks, I am really in the doldrums today.

[bunny planet]

27. The longer it is postponed the greater the possibility that it happens the

same day as the MJ trial results get announced.

:-(

[mzmolly]

33. I know.

When I contact the media, I SPECIFICALLY challenge them to put this above the "Jackson Tabloid Coverage."

[LittleClarkie]

34. Hmm. I wonder if he's trying to avoid the Brown debate

Who said that the Senate/Congress was not in session? According to senate.gov they're in debate about Brown today.

In other news, I was listening to Rush today, and he was pushing the "impeachment" meme, even though Kerry never used that word. He was crowing about having predicted all along that Kerry would do that.

We will have to see when we know he's in town, hopefully tomorrow. Gives him more time to write a kick ass speech if nothing else.

[Blue Belle]

39. Oy... how can you listen to Rush??

I'm in awe of you... I cannot stand to listen to 5 minutes of that blow hard. x(

[LittleClarkie]

41. That's about my limit per sitting -- 5 minutes

I turn it on... he says something outrageously distorted... I turn it off. A little while later, I buzz past that station again... he says something outrageously distorted again... I turn it off again.

Thank God for Ed Schultz. He ain't perfect, but it helps my head to have something even close to progressive radio to turn to every day.

Today, he was talking about Amnesty International, and how they were somehow connected to John Kerry and were therefore anti-American in the same way that Kerry was anti-Bush.

I found I can't listen to most Republicans for very long. I stopped to listen to Mitt Romney's speech on Cspan yesterday. He said he and the Republicans were following Bush's lead in education and fiscal responsibility. NCLB leaves children behind and I'd like to know what's so responsible about the biggest deficit in history. I snapped him off pretty quick as well.

[mzmolly]

43. Reid's office clarified they were not in session LOL. I think they were

thinking of congress? I am certain it was miscommunication.

I'm hoping that Kerry/Conyers are comparing notes? :hi:

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

36. And, what's preventing Kerry from calling a huge press conference???

If he's really steamed or concerned, maybe he should get the word out in a press conference today and on the Senate floor tomorrow. Nothing beats synergy in the major media like TWO DAYS OF NEWS CYCLE! Why can't Dems learn to play the media for heaven sakes!

Sadly, I think Kerry's motives are more about doing the bare minimum to keep folks like us reasonably happy without putting his neck out politically. Typical self-centered politican bullshit...and one of the reasons why he lost in 2004.

JB

[bahrbearian]

48. Exactly , I heard he spent the weekend in Crawford.

[blogslut]

50. Press conferences are fine...

...but the matter of the Downing Street Memo needs to be put in front of the House, preferably before a joint session, but you get what you get.

[Dr Ron]

37. Kerry will expose Administration Fraud

Maybe he won't take care of the fraud on Iraq today, but htat doesn't mean Kerry isn't exposing any Bush administration fraud today:

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/?view=plink&id=1023

[housewolf]

38. The senate IS is session today

they are getting ready to debate the judicial nomination for Janice Rogers Brown

[mzmolly]

42. Hell, I'm just going by what I'm told. Reid's office said they weren't?

Perhaps it's just a question of semantics?

I see the schedule here as you note and indeed they are in session:

http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/schedule.htm

However - Congress is closed today, and that was apparently the reason Kerry's rep gave for not addressing the issue today. Perhaps there is coordinated effort between Congress-Conyers/Senate-Kerry, on this matter? :think:

Or, it might be that the senate schedule doesn't permit Kerry speaking on the DSM today?

I guess the bottom line is - Kerry openly stated he's going to speak about this, it's only a matter of days regardless. And, apparently TODAY will not be THE day.

The office speculates that it will be tomorrow. *fingers crossed*

Thanks for the info!

[MeDeMax]

40. thnx, people are going crazy

on other threads without even reading the text of what Kerry said.

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/06-05/06-02-05/a01lo167.htm

A lot of people are posting impulsively calling him names, this does not help anyone.

I am guessing some repub sites (or AlJazeera) started the rumor that he was going to raise the DSM issue on senate floor today.

:think:

[savannahana]

44. kick & nominated

thanks, mzmolly

:kick:

[mzmolly]

45. Thank YOU. I was wrong the Senate is IN SESSION, Congress is not.

I'm hoping that Kerry is comparing notes with Conyers? :hi:

[savannahana]

63. just re-read the thread; hoping, indeed, and.......

ranting from the bonemarrow :evilgrin:

(see # 62 - & realize your thread here & merh's
lotto #'s post set me off on the whole thing.
eGADS, do i feel better now!
so, thank you again!) :hi:

...i love Chinese food... :+

:crazy: ana :smoke:

[oasis]

46. kick

[Freddie Stubbs]

47. Kerry's office is lying if they told you that the Senate was not

in session today.

[mzmolly]

49. They didn't tell me that. One of the posters here said Kerry wasn't

giving the speech because the "Congress" was not in session. Then I called Reids office they stated that the Senate was closed, but I think they may have confused my question?

:crazy:

The reason Kerry's rep gave for not speaking today was that the congress was closed, I'm thinking there MAY be a coordinated effort?

See my post 42.

[katinmn]

69. This is what happened today.

Floor Schedule

Monday, June 6, 2005

The Senate convened at 2:00 p.m. and adjourned at 5:38 p.m. No record votes were taken.

Next meeting:

Tuesday, June 7, 2005

9:45 p.m.: Return to Executive Session and resume consideration of the nomination of Janice Rogers Brown to be U.S. Circuit Judge for the D.C. Circuit.

[DistressedAmerican]

51. I For One DO NOT See This As Evidence Of ANYTHING Good!

I remember Kerry saying he was going to do something about the vote fraud in Ohio. He made statements that he was getting on it. Then he did nothing of value and left us all swinging in the wind.

If he does not hit them with this after his statements, I will be completely convinced that he is a sell out.

I seriously doubt that a delay from Kerry implies he is getting his facts straight, etc. He has had plenty of time to get his facts straight. The memo came out a month ago. He made his statement days ago. Surely with his staff he has had all the time he needs to work out the details.

I'm not sure exactly what the delay means. But I sure as hell do not look at this as a good sign.

Please do not forget how Democratic politicians love to say they are going to stand up to these assholes (primarily to keep US happy) while turning around and doing the opposite when the time comes to go officially on record. We have all seen it over and over from the Dem leadership!

I sure as hell hope he isn't playing that game AGAIN!

He has a chance to be a hero here. I hope he does not waste it!

[mzmolly]

55. Kerry did work on the issue of voting irregularity.

But we want an all out revolt or were not happy at times?

As for what he did:

http://www.google.com.ar/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2004-45,RNWE:en&q=count+every+vote+act+john+kerry

But Kerry didn't come out and say the *F* word.

And I fear that if Kerry doesn't use the *I* word tomorrow all of DU will run amok crying that they were let down. Pathetic.

Like it or not were a party that is marginalized right now, were not on equal footing. We are the minority party and it's all an uphill battle.

Watergate didn't break overnight, and this won't either.

We should really be thankful to Senator kerry for taking up this issue IMHO.

:hi:

[LittleClarkie]

57. Not to mention googling the name "Don McTigue" and "Ohio"

There is still a lawsuit pending. That it's not getting anywhere is more due I think to the fact that the process is probably controlled by Repubs.

[DistressedAmerican]

58. Count Every Vote Is GREAT. However, It Does Nothing To UNDO Ohio.

Maybe he'll work on some legislation to reduce the likelihood that Bush will lie his ass off to take us into the NEXT war. That would be the logical corollary to Count Every Vote.

I'll reserve my adulation until I see him take action. Not words, actions.

On edit: I do not want him to bring up impeachment at this point. We haqve no power to force it and it is premature at this point. I do want a passionalt speech and a media blitz. He promised action. I just want to see him take it.

[mzmolly]

59. I'll await your adulation.

But, I won't hold my breath. ;)

I don't think one can undo fraud. Especially when you can't count the dang votes. The proof is "POOF" gone.

Peace

[DistressedAmerican]

60. And I LOOK FORWARD To Giving It! I Really Want Him To Do This!

If he actually follows through, I'll be a big fan.

I'm just a bit worried reading about this delay. I think that is justified at this stage.

[mzmolly]

61. I agree.

:hug:

I think most of us will be pleased with what he does, "when" he does it.

:hi:

[SmileMaker]

53. My letter of encouragement to Kerry

Dear Senator Kerry,

Please, use your statement about the Downing Street Memo and the attention that the media is paying to the issue of you bringing it up to stand up to these cowardly bullies.

I watched Going Upriver with my 16 year old daughter and thought about what a good leader and healer you would be as our President. I hope you still have that 27 year old man in there to speak for us tomorrow. That's the man I voted for. Now, my daughter faces almost the identical dilemmas as my generation did 30 years ago -- only now, we're 30 years closer to crisis than we were then because this crowd in power has squandered our trust.

I worry so much about what her future (and my 14 year old son too!) will be.

You deserve to be our President because you probably won the election. We trusted you and worked hard for you and you could have done a little bit better, but you got cheated - voters were also cheated by the media. We were all too trusting. Never again.

Now, it's time for you to trust us (we who are awake and want this country back) to stand up for you when you stand courageously against Bush and his lying, crooked team of war criminals. When they say that they won the election or brought democracy to Iraq or that the Downing Street Minutes have been discredited, I think you should say "PROVE IT".


Good Luck!

[mzmolly]

56. That's a very nice letter.

:)

[dalloway]

67. man, I've been away all day and was hoping for good news...

kickin' it for JK

[kerrygoddess]

68. Confirming this...

Kerry will speak, but no time has been set for this yet. Aside from scheduled committee meetings, the Senate is discussing judicial nominees and possibly Bolton this week.

I should get a head's up on when this will happen. I will post when I do.

[mzmolly]

70. Thanks!

:)

[Nothing Without Hope]

71. See this VIDEO CLIP of Olbermann clarifying what Kerry said re the DSM

He demolishes the RW spin that Kerry is supposedly going to call for impeachment. It's great to see a corporate TV newsperson debunking RW spin like this, and he also is crystal-clear on what Kerry actually did say last Wednesday:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1834390#1834507

[Skypilot 18]

72. You would think

You would think the MSM would make a ton of ratings and money covering W's impeachment. Soon or a later someone in the MSM will be saying to him-or her-self, shit man we can make a fortune making this into the old fashioned SCOOP style reporting. And right now the connected dots are hiding right in plain sight.

Well, I can dream can't I ?

[mzmolly]

73. Welcome to DU! We need another Deepthroad, and other Woodward

IMHO.

I wish as you do that ONE reporter would try like h to get to the bottom of this.