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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 04:21 PM
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My conversation with Right Wing Nut Bags. No wonder they can sleep.
Edited on Mon Jun-06-05 04:58 PM by mzmolly
So I ventured into a Right Wing freak show over the weekend, and here is what I've "learned."

1. Clinton was responsible for the first WT Center bombing though he'd only been in office for 1 month at the time it occurred.

2. Clinton was also responsible for the 2nd WTC bombing in spite of the fact that Bush was in office for an entire 8 months before 911. It matters not that Bush never once addressed the issue of Al Qaida, it was all Clinton's fault.

3. Bush is a hero because only 3000 Americans died at the hands of Al Qaida, on his watch in 4.5 years.

4. Clinton dropped the ball because 6 died similarly on his watch in 8 years.

5. Bush is a hero because we only had one major Al Qaida attack on US soil on his watch.

6. Clinton is a villain because we had one minor Al Qaida attack on US soil on his watch.


7. Everyone thought Saddam had WMD's thus Bush was honest when he said Saddam was developing a NUKLAR program. *They provide quotes from before CLINTON AND THE UN disarmed Saddam* during operation Desert Fox, as proof Democrats agreed with Bush on the WMD issue, of course no quotes mention NUKES. They seem to have forgotten that NUKES and 911 were the major justifications for war? In fact, they deny this in spite of seeing Bush/Cheney/Condi's words before the war to this effect. They do provide a couple of quotes from Dems after Bush lied to the Senate/Congress as proof that everyone in Washington wanted to invade Iraq on the WMD issue, but the quotes omit where Dems said "let the UN inspections continue, we must be certain.." Additionally, many of the quotes were made in statements suggesting that Saddam was not a threat to the US.

See here:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

8. Capturing Saddam was very important to protect the US because he gave money to "Terrorists" er um "Suicide Bombers" er uhm "families of Suicide bombers" er um, ok ONE family of ONE man who was fighting in the Palestine Israeli war who could be said to be a "suicide bomber." Capturing Saddam was also important because Iraqi officials MAY have offered Osama a place to stay long before 911? Or they may not have?

9. Capturing Osama HIMSELF however was not important because the global war on terror is larger than just one guy. Let's forget that this guy funded the 911 attacks, it matters not. However we are much, much safer with that ONE GUY Saddam Hussein in captivity PHEW!

10. Pictures showing bombed killed Iraqi civilians are not really pictures from US bombs, they are pictures of casualties from the insurgents because our bombs don't ever kill innocent people. Everyone we kill in Iraq is a "terrorist."

11. Terrorists have stopped concentrating on Terrorism because they are so very distracted with the war in Iraq. Keep in mind, no innocent people are dying because of this battle though, thank goodness!

12. Shock and Awe could not have injured anyone because reporters in the back round miles away from Baghdad are not dead. In spite of the fact that Pentagon officials said "there will be no safe place in Baghdad" our bombs knew just what to hit and were able to make certain all buildings were empty and innocent people were not in the area, before falling to the ground. Again, PHEW!

13. The economy is in rough shape because of Clinton.

14. The economy is in really great shape because of Bush!

I hope you all are as enlightend as I am now.

Sleep well America, your Kuntree is in the hand of real Merikunz!

:crazy:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 04:29 PM
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1. Thanks to the mystery person who recommended my thread.
:hi:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 04:32 PM
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2. Thanks to the second mystery recommender.
Edited on Mon Jun-06-05 04:32 PM by mzmolly
;)

I'm out for a while, I'll check on back.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 04:33 PM
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3. Almost speechless at this
This sums up pretty well how insane these people are. And I mean that literally.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 04:34 PM
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4. Greatest material. It explains it all so clearly for us! n/t
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 04:38 PM
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5. nice summary of what they think
Edited on Mon Jun-06-05 04:38 PM by LSK
Ive run across all these arguments on the yahoo flameboards. Nominated for greatest.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 04:38 PM
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6. Did you ask them if they support their children being recruited to war?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3797148

Just wondering if that might disrupt their sleep a wee bit.

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us - We have all the evidence of mendacity and illegal war-making we need to indict and prosecute Bush, Blair and every other neoconster scum-bag on the planet having any involvement in the Bush's illegal war on Iraq and all the torture and other atrocities that have been committed since August 2002.

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 04:41 PM
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8. I did and ... they don't because there are many causes they support
and if we support the police, we should become a cop. :eyes:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 04:39 PM
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7. True believers the lot of them
and no way you can talk reason into them
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paula777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 04:42 PM
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9. My blood pressure went up reading this post
I can't imagine how you felt having to sit through such nonesense in person.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 04:59 PM
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10. I spent a day at an insane discussion board.
But my adventure was inspired by a friends ignorant husband who spewed even more ridiculous sh*t. :hi:
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Demrock6 Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 06:18 PM
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11. keep it coming!
Good story. I hope you dont' mind if I copy and paste it do you? I think it will stir the pot pretty good.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 06:27 PM
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12. Not at all.
:hi:
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 06:29 PM
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13. Oooooh, now I see. Thanks for clearing that up!
So, if I get a frontal lobotomy, I too can be a proud Republican.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 06:34 PM
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15. Oh and don't forget
you ALWAYS have to blame Clinton. No matter what it is Bush himself did. It's all Clinton's fault I tell ya! (/sarcasm) x(
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Mich Otter Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:13 PM
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29. You can't always blame Clinton.
Iran/Contra was obviously Carter's fault and Watergate was LBJ's fault.
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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:57 PM
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31. LOL that's true. And FDR set up the social security time bomb
oh, and he's responsible for Eastern Europe's woes. And don't get me started on Thomas Jefferson. gotta share the blame!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 06:31 PM
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14. Oh goodness
My head just feels like it could pop now after reading that shit.

:crazy: (Indeed)
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 06:53 PM
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16. Us dum libruls is still too stoopid to get it. These make no cents!
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Mich Otter Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:03 PM
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17. Saddam was a bad guy, remember the pic of Rummy dealing with him?
You might also want to mention that the Reagan/Bush team took Saddam and Iraq off the list of terror supporting nations so THEY COULD SELL HIM MORE WEAPONS.
Clinton was obviously at fault for that, too, since Clinton didn't stop it from happening.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:28 PM
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18. isn't it funny, too, that Clinton brought the criminals
responsible for the first WTC bombing to justice? They are in prison. Even the blind dude. But Osama? Hey, No big deal, right?

These people are fucking idiots, really. They believe all their fast talk, that sales pitch they give to cover up the fact that they really just want more tax checks.

As I see more and more of them beginning to suffer because of *'s policies, I refuse to even feel sympathy. Burn, Babies, burn. When you lose your job and your insurance and you can't pay your bills and you can't get any medical treatment, remember: You voted for this kind of cold-blooded, ignorant nation and you deserve all the pain you receive.....
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:28 PM
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19. mzmolly I read your profile and it seemed you were/are leaving
DU. Clearly after such a great post you can't possibly leave.Seriously, I loved what you wrote and would hate to see you go.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:34 PM
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20. Thanks, I have to split at some point LOL.
I do appreciate your kind words. I'll be around for another week I presume?

:hi:

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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:53 PM
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24. Best of luck. Quite a valedictory post.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:02 PM
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27. Thank you.
I get to wrapped up in all this, as you can probably tell. ;)

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Shredr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:41 PM
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21. I can't decide whether to be angry or scared.
How do you argue with that? It's like an abused spouse who stays with the abuser and justifies it with wild rambling about it being his/her own fault. It's all CLINTON!?!?! Are they nuts? They really have convinced themselves of that. And you can scream until you're blue in the face, they won't see it. Arrgh.

(Thanks for the great post, even though I'm stewing now!)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:58 PM
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25. LMAO
You hit this nail in the head!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:41 PM
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22. I can believe it.
The media and the republicans have painted Clinton as some evil person and to people out there that aren't political, they bought it. It's like they knew someone like Bush would get in after Clinton, as they character assasinated him (Clinton) to the hilt, just so that Bush would appear heaven sent and wonderful. But it's actually the opposite when you compare the two.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 07:42 PM
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23. Whether you like Ed Schultz or not
he likes to comment on the RW making everything Clinton's fault. It's one of his "rules." Might be trite, but it's true.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:00 PM
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26. I like Big Eddy,
don't always agree, but I like em.

I do wish I could hear Randi Rhodes in my local market as well though.
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:13 PM
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28. If Bush was caught hands down,
no wiggle room, that he planned 9/11 along with bin Laden, saudi arabia and pakistan, they would still blame Bill Clinton or Michael Moore. Their politics is actually a religion and no logic or reason would deprogram them.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 08:15 PM
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30. Kick and wishing I could make mzmolly stay with us
truly. :(
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:35 PM
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33. You guys are choking me up darnit!
:(
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:08 PM
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32. Limpballs, Corporate TV
and a Lack of Curiosity "beyond the spin" have led this country to a state of confused ignorance for too many citizens.

Yes, there IS news out there, but it lies undiscovered for those who remain arrogantly complacent.

Too many others simply refuse to take the time or energy to READ.

*shaking head* I'm appalled, and I'm genuinely worried.














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Bride of Cthulhu Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 11:08 PM
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34. this confirms it
I always thought they were crazy, now i know they are.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 11:21 PM
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35. FReepers in my area are super fed-up now... finally!
Just today, one begins talking to me without any push from me other then a "hello." He said we're under Fascism, Tyranny, and the lies of Iraqi; he also said "What can we do...?"

I said, "March!"

He said, "No one will care - it won't be televised."

I headed for cafe press and ordered some t-shirts!

He lives around Faux news type people. Not on the internet, can't figure out how FReepers in my area are getting the truth... ;) Maybe they're listening to me afteral.

:pals:
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:08 AM
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40. Show them the downingstreet minutes.
Clinton did a war for a small lie, that was already put out over many fires. That war only involved a few wrongful sanctions.

Bush extended it and created a BIG WHITE LIE, and forced the entire world into war because of a LIE.

http://www.conyersblog.us
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:12 PM
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50. Got EVERYTHING Printed Out & Am Spreading the Word
I start like this: "Psst... Hey, did you hear about the Tony Blair Downing Street Minutes Memo Documentations, yet?"

Everyone leans forward w/great curiosity. Wow. It's amazing. Then when I pull out my print-outs everyone begins to surround and "read."

I give a nod and before I can walk away they're saying words like:

Fascism, see I told you (to one another).
Tyranny... Bush that Ba#tard and boy, they don't like Frist/Delay/Cheney, either and these are FReepers.

Hell-bent to inform others when all they watch is Faux News.

Can't get over how much people really know when you assume they don't.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:06 PM
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43. Keep up the good work AntiBush.
:toast:
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:08 PM
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49. Wait till my "Have you Seen the Memo" Bumper Sticker & T-Shirts
Ordered various ones: Awaiting now... the kind that won't bring-up anger, rather "questions..." :)
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 11:21 PM
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36. err 8 and 9 do they cancel
each other out!


8. Capturing Saddam was very important to protect the US because he gave money to "Terrorists" er um "Suicide Bombers" er uhm "families of Suicide bombers" er um, ok ONE family of ONE man who was fighting in the Palestine Israeli war who could be said to be a "suicide bomber." Capturing Saddam was also important because Iraqi officials MAY have offered Osama a place to stay long before 911? Or they may not have?

9. Capturing Osama HIMSELF however was not important because the global war on terror is larger than just one guy. Let's forget that this guy funded the 911 attacks, it matters not. However we are much, much safer with that ONE GUY Saddam Hussein in captivity PHEW!


If this is the base of Bush supporters they really need their asses hauled into Propaganda Detox!
*cough* Limbaugh anyone.. he constantly slams Clinton or is it Beck, one of those idiot assholes.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:45 AM
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37. All I have to say is..
:wtf:
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pissed_American Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:51 AM
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38. Capturing Saddam WAS very important...
because he gave money to suiciders... AND apple ciders too.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:24 PM
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44. LOL.
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 02:04 PM by mzmolly
;)
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flygal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:48 AM
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39. Thanks for the warning
I'll be vising freeper-land at my in-laws next month. They only associate with fellow freepers - we made them promise only ONE get-together with these idiots. May the force be with me.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:02 AM
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41. I can see clearly now, the pain is gone. (nt)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:04 PM
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42. Yes indeed.
:hi:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:27 PM
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45. I'm glad I saw this...
What a fanatstic post. :D

Hope you'll be back soon!

:hi:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:29 PM
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46. Thanks so much.
:hi:

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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:07 PM
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47. Have they all gone mad?
Rhetorical question.
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:26 PM
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48. TiP-ah-kiLL
kick - recommended
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thebaghwan Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:48 PM
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51. God guides our bombs becuz we is the righteous!
n/t
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