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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:05 PM
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This BBC vid clearly details the Blair-Bush Iraq war CONspiracy
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 08:17 PM by psychopomp
and needs to be seen in the light of June 7th's continued efforts at obfuscation by the two. (That press briefing video here).


Unbelievable that they continue to stand before the world and continue lying!!!!

"Iraq, Tony & the Truth"

Recorded from original transmission, BBC 1, Sunday, 20 March 2005, 22:15 GMT

Check it out!
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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:08 PM
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1. Why not lie? Who's going to call them on it? Our press? The
Dems? No they are safe and can lie until they turn blue in the face. At times like these, I really wish there was a God to punish this type of stuff.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:12 PM
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2. Check this video and you will feel encouraged
The facts are clear and the credibility of Bliar and George Bush is ZERO.

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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 10:30 AM
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34. kick...
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 11:07 AM
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39. Who to turn to in times like these
I'm with you, Tallahassee. I've given up on the press and the congress. Now I'm moving up the food chain. I want these bastids SMOTE. No one has heard our calls for accountability.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 11:37 AM
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42. they hear them....BUT they rather enjoy the power, corruption and $$$
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:19 PM
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3. screen shots from the video












and finally, this video reminded me of and old Bush/Blair spoof where they declare their love for each other in song. This funny little clip uses a lot of the same pre-war press conferences that are used in the BBC video. So while it is old, you may find it amusing. I certainly do.

View clip in Windows Media format
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:33 PM
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11. Bleccch... nearly lost my dinner (those ugly faces of evil) n/t
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:53 PM
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17. Oh, shew. That Bolton pict. Shew... Frightful!
And Bush: :puke:
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:21 PM
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4. Why isn't there an American network airing this sort of thing?
Because catapulting the propaganda is more profitable!
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:45 PM
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7. Because we haven't sent it to them yet?
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 09:45 PM by Triana
Why not send the link to this vid to every damned MSM outlet we can find asking that they air it - starting with the ones who reported on DSM in the past 24 hours.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:43 PM
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13. Because our MEDIA is OWNED by the WAR-PROFITEERS!
GE (NBC)
Halliburton
Carlye Group
Lockheed Martin
Bechtel

All profiteers of the war.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 06:49 AM
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25. Gee, your post doesn't make much sense.
Too bad the latter four companies don't own any of the media. Where are you getting your "info"?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 09:39 AM
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32. The media can NOT usurp our power to spread the truth.
Let's get this to where it needs to go: representatives, fellow liberal blogs and constituents, local media.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 08:33 PM
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5. Almost everything said, if not a lie, distorts, misinforms, skirts the
issue, is double-speak, duplicitious, oxymoronic et al
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:40 PM
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6. kick
;)
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:16 PM
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8. Kick!
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Bellamia Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:31 PM
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9. Checked out & Nominated
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:32 PM
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10. Why aren't the Brits in an uproar over the DSM??
Their soldiers died too.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:33 PM
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12. They were and are...
that is why Blair lost almost 100 seats in the last election.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:44 PM
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14. Here's betting the Brits OUST bLAIR very soon.
As long as Bush and his crime family go, too.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:49 PM
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15. Unfortunately he didn't lose enough seats... n/t
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mrfrapp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 10:24 AM
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33. Are They?
I don't know anyone here in the UK who's even heard of the Downing Street Minutes let alone have an opinion on it. And because I don't read the Sunday Times it's doubtful I would have heard about it if I didn't visit DU.

A lot of people may be cross with Blair over Iraq but I can assure you, it has nothing to do with the the DSM.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 10:36 AM
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35. The polls before the election were saying that people in the
UK believed Blair lied to them about the invasion and that ties to the memos that were leaked, there were more than one, detailing the run up to the invasion.

Blair lied, say 59 per cent in new poll

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/30/1064819909288.html?from=storyrhs&oneclick=true

Given the BBC documentary Iraq, Tony and the Truth aired before the election as well as well as the commentary during the election when blair was losing seats was attributing it to Iraq.

Did British citizens state I voted against Blair because of the DSM, no, but they did say they voted against him because he lied which is what is shown in the DSM.
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mrfrapp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 10:47 AM
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36. Cause and Effect
Edited on Wed Jun-08-05 10:48 AM by mrfrapp
"Did British citizens state I voted against Blair because of the DSM, no, but they did say they voted against him because he lied which is what is shown in the DSM."

I'm not disputing that a great many people believe Blair lied but that belief is not a consequence of the minutes, I can assure you. People have come to the conclusion of Blair's mendacity independent of the DSM revelation. The minutes are simply the final nail in the coffin. Which is why the media in the UK is doing it's best to ignore it.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 10:55 AM
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38. I agree with your point in that it was not the DSM, per se, that
the British citizens are angry about in isolation from all the other issues surrounding Blair's lies about Iraq. The poll I linked to shows that the majority already believed Blair lied and that was before the leak of the DSM.

When I answered the poster on the issue of British anger, it was not meant to infer it was the DSM alone that was causing the anger, only that they were and angry about Blair's lies in total.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 11:58 AM
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43. The minutes did lead the news stories on the Sunday before the election
when the Sunday Times printed them. If you remember, the days between then and the election were basically about Blair's trustworthiness, due in large part to the minutes being released then. But after the election, when it became clear that those who cared that Blair lied to take us into an illegal war had intended to vote against him anyway, the story was dropped.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:52 PM
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16. Here's the links. Everyone should check these out.
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evermind Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:56 PM
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18. I'm told this program refers to an "other memo"
... which coincidentally I posted here, without having read this thread or seen the program. Anyway, you might want to check out the other memo, which I reproduce in full (it's not that easy to find) in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3809302

There were five others leaked at the same time. If you're interested, see the "analysis" link in my other post for the "best" bits and implications of them.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:01 PM
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19. Thank you, I am reading that "other memo" now
:toast:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 08:52 AM
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27. Other memo? Is there a link?
I have not been visiting DU as much the past few weeks as my work PC has been a bit under the weather the past 2-3 weeks.

Thanks
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 09:03 AM
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28. Here is the thread link with the other memo
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3809302



This memo is quoted from repeatedly in the BBC video so it is great to know that it was publicized even earlier than the DSM.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:57 AM
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51. yes. see post 18
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:54 PM
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20. For those who have not seen the video
When you do you will understand why there is such conviction (*ahem*) in the minds of those who are in uproar over this issue!
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 12:13 AM
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21. just watched this documentary
A very good program. Clear, concise and non-apologetic (VERY UNLIKE OUR OWN MEDIA)

This was released in March 2005 if I am not mistaken so how do we get this circulated.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 02:13 AM
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22. kick
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 05:30 AM
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23. Keep the fire burnin'
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 05:57 AM
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24. the "powers that be" will put in a new "puppet:" to serve them....
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seeker4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 08:38 AM
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26. Thank You.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 09:05 AM
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29. Great evidence of criminal, treasonous fraud. n/t
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 09:30 AM
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30. Forward this to the 88 who have called for an investigation.
Truth must be spread quickly, widely and repeatedly.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 09:32 AM
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31. forward to everybody in the congress/senate/media and blogs
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 10:50 AM
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37. It was great. It's the kind of thing one used to see on PBS.
I guess those days are over.

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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 11:09 AM
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40. Please help save the BBC, the world's last, best news source!
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 11:24 AM
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41. Kicking for truth!!!
:kick:
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 03:22 PM
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44. Unbelievable.
How the hell do these ass-hats keep getting away with this crap?
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 06:49 PM
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45. kick
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 07:49 PM
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46. How did this get on page three?
;)
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 10:30 PM
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47. kick
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AnnitaR Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 11:06 PM
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48. Yet both these liars still have their jobs!
I am shaking with anger at watching this!

I feel hopeless. They have gotten away with it all.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 12:03 AM
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49. kick
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 12:33 AM
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50. Exceptional resource!
Also wanted you to know that the links in your sig line have been very helpful to me over time - Thanks!




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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:05 AM
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52. kick
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:30 AM
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53. kick
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:39 AM
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54. kick
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:12 PM
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55. kick
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:43 PM
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56. kick
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:12 PM
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:32 PM
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:38 PM
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59. That Was Absolutly Outstanding.
I would give most anything to have that sort of reporting going on here.
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