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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:28 PM
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Why did the Dems let Bush/Blair take the preemptive strike against DSM?
DSM broke in March. Why didn't the Party go on the attack before giving bush a chance to dismiss DSM?
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:34 PM
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1. Because (on a whole) prominent Dems have NO MEDIA SAVVY.
Thank you for bringing this up. I thought I was the only one today after posting a thread on Kerry's telegraphing that he was going to make a statement on the DSM and then sitting on his ass for days...VERY STUPID IMHO.

JB
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:49 PM
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7. No media savvy or no media influence?
There may be some truth to what you say but I would submit that the corporate media's ongoing campaign to kill virtually every issue that could negatively impact Bush has at least as much to do with it.
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:54 PM
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9. Yes, there is media pushback...exactly why Dems need to try harder.
It's hard for the media to ignore a message when it is stated LOUDLY and in a concerted fashion. Hell, the only reason the DSM is now getting play in the media is precisely because of persistent and LOUD attention on the Internet. The DSM didn't come to light because our elected Dem leaders were talking about it in Congress or in the media. WE BROUGHT THE ISSUE TO THEM...and that's part of the problem with our current crop of (largely) opportunistic and media dumb Dem politicans.

JB
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:25 PM
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14. I agree with Joe Madison.
At John Conyer's media bias forum, Madison said that Congressional Democrats literally need to march, en masse, into the media office buildings and demand that the truth be reported.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:28 PM
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15. And how very right he is
I saw that event and that one statment by Joe Madison was the absolute highlight.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:36 PM
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2. No it broke May 1st
Why it took so long and why the Dems hesitate is another forty thousand posts of discussion.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:39 PM
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3. BBC Transcript; Tony, Iraq and the Truth; March 20, 2005; documentary
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 11:40 AM
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16. The Downing Street minutes was May 1st.
That other stuff is not DSM.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:42 PM
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4. They didn't...this hastily-announced "news" conference was scheduled to...
...blow the wind out of Kennedy's sails, who was discussing the minutes on the Senate floor today.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:44 PM
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5. so you don't think the Dems could've made more noise before
this type of response was orchestrated?
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:07 PM
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12. No
Unless Kennedy's discussion was held in secret. He HAD to announce it to get it on the agenda. Anything he, or any other dem, could do to attract attention to the DSM would have been countered by some similar stunt by BushCo. It's what they do. They are the masters.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:46 PM
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6. Strategery
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:52 PM
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8. and that strategy would be what?
To let asshole-son get in the first punch?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:55 PM
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10. Agreed
We gave them a head fake, now they are on the record and all of the major media outlets are covering it. When it gets brought to the Senate floor the wind is in our sails & the media will continue to cover the story.

I sat here tonight after the press conference and watched ALL of the news coverage...we are on our way:)


:kick:
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:00 PM
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11. I hope so.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:07 PM
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13. The trick is to continue with the full court press {no pun intended}
We can't just let it slide solely onto the shoulders of our elected officials and the lazy media, we must continue with our letters & phone calls. If I ever get the printer fixed, I intend to print handbills and distribute throughout the city!! :)


I'm a little excitable right now, it's just that I have this incredible feeling that the impossible may just be possible.


NEVER GIVE UP
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