My friend is killed : Hit by a robbery get-away car at the mall.

[liberalnurse]

He was at the Mall shopping with his aged mother and girlfriend. John was always a man who would help a friend out of a jam just for the adventure, a little impish, a rebel, a biker, a successful farmer, a prankster, a Patriot, a Democrat, a beloved friend to me.

His family is renoundly know since they owned one of the larger farms in the north end of Clark County. His father use to work at the local hospital for health insurance and to pay his farm taxes. These girls are in deep shit!

Authorities: Man Dies After Being Hit By Robbery Suspects

POSTED: 4:53 p.m. EDT June 7, 2005
UPDATED: 12:54 a.m. EDT June 8, 2005


SPRINGFIELD, Ohio -- Authorities in Clark County are searching for four females who allegedly robbed the Macy's store in Springfield. The robbery happened Tuesday afternoon at the Upper Valley Mall.

Investigators said the females fled the store carrying clothing and jumped into a waiting car. They said the women then struck a man in the parking lot. The man later died. He is identified as 49-year-old John Deselem of Springfield.

http://www.whiotv.com/news/4580718/detail.html>
http://www.whiotv.com/news/4580718/detail.html


Massive Manhunt Continues For Robbery Suspects

POSTED: 6:01 am EDT June 8, 2005
UPDATED: 6:09 am EDT June 8, 2005

SPRINGFIELD, Ohio -- A massive manhunt for four women continues on Wednesday morning in Springfield.

Authorities said the women are accused of shoplifting from the Macy’s store at the Upper Valley Mall and then, during their getaway, hitting a pedestrian in the parking lot. The pedestrian died from his injuries.

Police said three women took several clothing items without paying for them from the store on Tuesday. Authorities said the women ran to a fourth woman who was waiting in a getaway car in the parking lot.

Investigators said as the women made theie escape, they struck a pedestrian, 49-year-old John Deselem, of Springfield, in the parking lot, who later died from his injuries. The women then fled the scene and crashed their car in German Township and fled the scene on foot in a nearby wooded area.

Deputies from Clark County searched the car and discovered it had been reported stolen from Columbus from an Enterprise Rental lot.

Detectives said they used K-9 dogs to track the suspect’s in the woods. They discovered items that appeared to belong to the women, along with their footprints


http://www.whiotv.com/news/4582615/detail.html


Man killed as theft suspects flee store
49-year-old hit by car carrrying 4 accused of shoplifting
By Kelly Baker

Cox News Service

GERMAN TWP., Clark County | Four women accused of shoplifting from Macy's in the Upper Valley Mall on Tuesday fled in a stolen car that struck and killed a Clark County man as he stepped off a sidewalk leading to the mall's parking lot.

John Deselem, 49, was killed when the sedan struck him about 3:45 p.m. His mother and his girlfriend saw the car hit him, according to deputies.

"They hopped in the car, and the car sped away and hit a man in the parking lot."

Witnesses were able to get a license plate number to the car, which was traced to a stolen rental out of Columbus.

Surveillance video from Macy's showed four women believed to be in their 20s wandering through the men's section of the store.

The women, carrying arm loads of clothes, got into the car, which sped off.

[Bunny]

1. Oh gosh, sorry to hear that.

My condolences. Way too young to die. :hug:

[liberalnurse]

74. Evening Update: One suspect turns self in

while two others, "Lawyer-Up" and soon to be arrested.

One Suspect Surrenders; Others Expected Soon

POSTED: 5:03 pm EDT June 8, 2005
UPDATED: 5:14 pm EDT June 8, 2005

SPRINGFIELD, Ohio -- There are new developments in a shoplifting spree that turned fatal at a local mall on Tuesday.

On Wednesday afternoon, one woman surrendered to authorities and the others are expected to give themselves up soon, according to investigators. Investigators said a 21-year-old woman from Columbus turned herself in on Wednesday.

Detectives said of the remaining three who are still on the run, two have them have contacted attorneys and are expected to surrender soon.

Authorities said four women who shoplifted clothes from the Macy's store at the Upper Valley Mall hit and killed a man with their getaway car.

Three of the women who were seen in surveillance video allegedly shoplifting from the Upper Valley Mall have been identified. Sheriff Gene Kelly said they are a part of a group that stole thousands of dollars' worth of clothing.

[TeeYiYi]

76. Thank you for the update . . .

. . . and keep us posted.

I'm so sorry for your loss. :hug:

TYY

[mopaul]

2. my sympathies

[Magrittes Pipe]

3. I'm sorry to hear about your friend.

I grew up in Springfield; hate to hear about shit like this. :(

[zulchzulu]

4. So sad! My condolences to his family and friends

What a waste.

[xultar]

5. I'm very sorry to hear about your friend. I hope his mom and girlfriend

are o.k. They must be really hurting to have been through that type of situation.

[Marnieworld]

6. So sorry for your loss

What a tragic and senseless way to die. My deepest condolences.
:hug:

[Bluzmann57]

7. Boy that really sucks

Hope they catch and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law those women who were in the car. My sympathies to you on the death of your friend. I hope his family is bearing up ok too. As I said, I hope those women are made to pay and pay dearly.

[ewagner]

8. So sorry to hear

about your friend.

No punishment to the girls can ever make up for the loss of your friend.....but I hope they are caught and brought to justice.

[Desertrose]

9. Damn...I'm so sorry liberalnurse

How sad...its all beyond words...what a shame.....I'm just so sorry.
Damn.

:hug:
DR

[theboss]

10. How awful...I'm sorry for your loss

Amazing that something as stupid as shoplifting could lead to this.

I wonder if this could somehow be shoe-horned into a felony murder charge against the women.

[liberalnurse]

55. Update......they have identified at least three of the women.

http://www.whiotv.com/news/4584161/detail.html


SPRINGFIELD, Ohio -- Authorities in Clark County said they have identified three of the women who are accused of robbing a Macy's store in Springfield Tuesday and hitting and killing a pedestrian during their getaway.



Three of the women who were seen in surveillance video allegedly shoplifting from the Upper Valley Mall have been identified. Sheriff Gene Kelly said they are a part of a group that stole thousands of dollars' worth of clothing.

Authorities said the women ran out of the store, into a waiting car and then struck and killed a pedestrian. Kelly said a car chase between the women and authorities ended in a crash in German Township.

Investigators said the women then bailed out of the car into a wooded area on foot. The search for the women continued overnight in the wooded area and in Columbus, where police said the women are from.

Deputies said they got the break in the case with some help from authorities in Columbus. They said the women reportedly stole a car from a rental company and traveled to Springfield.

Kelly said they hope to identify the women who was driving the car. He said hopes to get arrest warrants sometime on Wednesday.

[liberalnurse]

68. Here is a link to a slide show video clip

http://www.nbc4i.com/news/4582594/detail.html

[Walt Starr]

11. From the sounds of it, your firend was the victim of felony murder

I will keep his family in my thoughts.

[liberalnurse]

21. Felony murder indeed.

These girls...oh they are in deep shit.

Thanks Walt.......:hug:

[Walt Starr]

26. They could forfeit their lives.

IIRC, Ohio has a death penalty. If this gets much attention and the local DA is up for re-election next year, the DP could be sought in the case.

[liberalnurse]

31. You take the words

right out of my mouth......John and the Deselem family have strong ties to the everyday, life long Springfield native.

[LisaL]

42. It's not a death penalty case.

I believe the murder needs to be pre-mediated for it to be a death penalty case. Regardless, it's a horrible thing that had happened to this poor guy.

[Walt Starr]

44. In most states, killing somebody in the commission of another felony

is capital murder.

[theboss]

47. True

Not sure there is another felony here though. At least not a felony that triggers capital murder.

But I don't know Ohio.

[Walt Starr]

51. Neither do I. If there is a felony

it would be the fleeing the scene. I would also suspect teh dollar value of the merchandise stolen will probably rise to the level of felony. There actually might be multiple felonies in addition to the murder.

[liberalnurse]

65. Thats what the word is out in the community.....

and the news reports now.....They want this one BAD! Sheriff Kelly is also a childhood friend of the family as are a few of the Judges now that I think of the gang.

[liberalnurse]

66. Prison for a long, long time

is okay with me. Marysville Womens Prison is a tough house to hang. Sometimes, it's better to let the confinement be a long moment of private reflection. They'll be old hags by the time they get out....thats quite satisfying to me anyways.

[theboss]

40. Of course, it depends on the type of crime committed

I doubt shoplifting is a felony unless they were violent or stole above a certain dollar amount.

Though it's probably a bit crass to turn this into a law school hypo. (Even though I did it first).

I will say that the girls may have gone from a few weeks in jail to a few decades.

[Walt Starr]

46. At the very least

It also depends upon the other crimes involved, too. Proscutors generally tend to rack up the charges because that usually leads to a plea bargain and no court time. Of course, high profile cases will almost always not have anybody plea out.

[formernaderite]

48. They also stole the vehicle they were driving....

looks pretty bad for them. To the original poster, Sorry for your loss.

[theboss]

50. Oh...well...game on then

I didn't know that part.

[rocktivity]

78. They stole a vehicle, had a "wheel woman" waiting outside

and didn't try to conceal the stolen goods--THERE'S your premeditation. A charge of robbery rather than shoplifing would be felonious enough. Getaway drivers in bank robberies aren't charged or punished less because they kept the motor running while their partners did the actual robbing.

My condolances to you and your friend's family.

:headbang:
rocknation

[Modem Butterfly]

12. My deepest condolences

I am so sorry for your loss.

[progmom]

13. i'm truly sorry to hear about your friend

:hug:

[welshTerrier2]

14. what a waste ...

i'm so sorry about the loss of your friend ...

fucking materialism takes another life ... what the hell are we teaching people ???

it's incredible that life can be so easily snuffed out by such stupidity ... there truly is no justice in living and dying ...

[Straight Shooter]

15. It sounds like he lived his life well. I wish him peace.

For you, a hug. :hug:

[ET Awful]

16. Wow. I'm so sorry to hear it :(

My deepest condolences to you and to your friends family :cry:

[Love Bug]

17. This is terrible

My condolences on the tragic loss of your friend. And the fact his mother and girlfriend had to witness this -- there are no words.

Hope they find the people who did this and put them away for a long time.

[liberalnurse]

33. He has had many a girlfriend

but only one, really sweet mom. She is a good old gal who put up with her frisky boys, laughing and loving them more each day. This is devastating. John died doing what he always was doing....something for somebody else. His elderly mom wanted to go shopping...so he took her there.

[babylonsister]

18. Hugs to you, liberalnurse. It's so

tough to lose friends, especially in such a senseless way. :hug:

[TX-RAT]

19. I'm so sorry for your loss. Must be heart wrenching.

[MasonJar]

20. What an awful way to die. I am so sorry for your loss.

[liberalnurse]

24. At least it was some what quick......

I'm still stunned....I've had a rough week so far in some ways.....The funny thing is, John was the kind of guy who would of paid for the clothes if they wanted them that bad....then have a beer with them.

[Rowdyboy]

22. How desperately sad....These butchers killed a man for cheap "fashion"

Hope they enjoy their prison clothes for many, many years.

[liberalnurse]

28. They are lucky they are girls.....

Yet, we don't know if the driver was male or female......

[etherealtruth]

23. I am so incredibly sorry n/t

[Hobarticus]

25. God rest you, John...

Sorry for your loss, liberalnurse. Peace.

[City Lights]

27. How awful.

Please accept my condolences. :hug:

[Selatius]

29. My sympathies for your loss

All of this over stolen pieces of clothing. It must be a tough time for you. I hope they face justice for murder.

[formernaderite]

49. Unfortunately retail theft rings,

are incredibly lucrative. They drive up the cost of most retail sales to the consumer.

[trotsky]

30. Very sorry to hear.

Why does the old saying, "Only the good die young" keep having to be re-proven?

[liberalnurse]

34. John would of said that......

:cry: O8)

[Blue Diadem]

32. I am so sorry LN,

Your friend sounds like he was a wonderful person.

I hope they catch the women and prosecute to the fullest extent. Some people don't realize just how dangerous fleeing shoplifters can be. This is a prime example of what can and does happen.

My heartfelt condolences to you and to his family.

[mogster]

35. I'm sorry to hear that, liberalnurse

He sounded like a person I would like to know.

Hugs to you, I am sorry for your loss :-)

[redqueen]

36. I'm so sorry, liberalnurse.

Will keep you and his family in my prayers.

Hope they catch the murderers.

[GreenPartyVoter]

37. I am so sorry! *hugs*

[liberalnurse]

38. I can't tell you all how comforting it is

to get your hugs and support. To die of natural causes or even an accident is much easier to accept than a senseless, careless murder of an innocent bystander at the mall with his mother.

[peekaloo]

39. I'm sorry for the loss of your friend.

:hug:

Geez did his poor mom witness this?

[liberalnurse]

72. Yes she did.......

:banghead: :cry:

[demodonkey]

41. I'm so sorry, LN...

(((Hugs))) to you from PA. Your friend John was a wonderful person and he will never be forgotten. His death seems senseless but hopefully something good will come of it in ways we can't know right now.

Love from MB

[liberalnurse]

58. Thanks demdonkey.....

:hug: :cry:

[Maru Kitteh]

43. Why isn't THIS on the news? Four girls knock over a Macy's and

kill your friend and it gets ZIP........... but one bug-eyed little girl skips out on her rich white wedding and


SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN FOR THE LIVE PRESS CONFERENCE.

Sickening.

Our prayers are with you, your friend and his family. Especially his MOM. Good Lord, can you imagine what she must be going through?

[liberalnurse]

56. It is on all the stations here in the

Dayton/Springfield Ohio area. It's the lead story.

[jonnyblitz]

45. big hugs for you libernalnurse

:hug:

[merh]

52. Sorry for your lose, liberalnurse.

:hug: I will say prayers for you and his family. :hug:

[liberalnurse]

57. Thanks merh......

:pals:

[merh]

60. I'm here if you need.

:hug: :hug:

You are in my prayers too. If you need someone to talk to, please feel free to pmail me. Or, if you need to fight to get out the anger, I will post another taser thread. :pals:

:cry: Take care of yourself. :hug:

[liberalnurse]

63. Now you know I can't resist a good

old knock down-drag out Taser thread! That just may be my therapy prescription. I may be in the mood tonight. Damn I feel powerless today.


:pals:

[merh]

69. Just let me know, I'll play Battle-Taser with you whenever you want.

Just be sure not to try to ignore your feelings and be sure to get rest. Your body kicks in to that numb state as a safety mechanism, the body's own sedative to help deal with the situation. Just take things easy and take care of you. :pals:

[progressivebydesign]

53. My sympathies to you, and his family and friends. n/t

[progressivebydesign]

54. My sympathies to you, and his family and friends. n/t

[Vladimir]

59. I'm sorry to hear that

my condolences liberalnurse...

[Kingshakabobo]

61. Wow. That's awful.

My condolences.

[Terran]

62. Good god, how awful.

I'm so sorry you lost your friend--what a senseless waste.

[goodboy]

64. My deepest sympathies. Let us know if there's anything we can do.

[liberalnurse]

67. Thanks goodboy.

:hug: O8)

[tallahasseedem]

70. My deepest sympathies...

This is a horrible tragedy.

[myrna minx]

71. I am so sorry for your loss.

:cry: hug:

[nonconformist]

73. This is so tragic.

My deepest sympathies.

[deadparrot]

75. I'm so sorry.

There are no words. :(

[ComerPerro]

77. God, I'm sorry. Very sorry to hear that.

[JohnLocke]

79. Rest in peace, John Deselem.

I never knew you, but if liberalnurse was your friend you are a friend of mine. :hug: