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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 01:06 PM
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AP account of Downing Street question differs from that of White House....
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http://rawstory.com/news/2005/AP_account_of_Downing_Street_question_differs_from_White_House_Wash._Po_0608.html

AP account of Downing Street question differs from that of White House, Washington Post

AP account of Downing Street question differs from that of White House, Washington Post
RAW STORY


The Associated Press appears to have errantly revised a question asked by a Reuters reporter about the Downing Street minutes, RAW STORY has discovered.

The AP transcript says the reporter asked a question which included the phrase, "intelligence and facts remain fixed" around the policy of removing Saddam Hussein, whereas the official White House transcript and account by the Washington Post asserted the reporter said "intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy of removing Saddam through military action."

The difference, while semantic, seems to have entirely changed the question the reporter asked. Neither the Associated Press or reporter Steve Holland were immediately available for comment.

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The AP copy distributed to the papers was:

Q: Thank you, sir. On Iraq, the so-called "Downing Street Memo" from July 2002, says, "Intelligence and facts remain fixed around the policy of removing Saddam through military actions." Is this an accurate reflection of what happened? Could both of you respond?

BLAIR: Well, I can respond to that very easily. No, the facts were not being fixed in any shape or form at all. And let me remind you that that memorandum was written before we then went to the United Nations.

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The official White House / Washington Post account stated:

Q Thank you, sir. On Iraq, the so-called Downing Street memo from July 2002 says intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy of removing Saddam through military action. Is this an accurate reflection of what happened? Could both of you respond?

PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: Well, I can respond to that very easily. No, the facts were not being fixed in any shape or form at all. And let me remind you that that memorandum was written before we then went to the United Nations.

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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 01:10 PM
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1. ---------------- ----------------- ------------------ > MP3
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Mark Williams Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 01:12 PM
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2. Video
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 01:16 PM
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3. Steve being placed before the firing squad.
That was fast.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 01:17 PM
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4. Yep, both in the mp3 and video it follows the WH transcipt,
so why did AP get it wrong?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 01:19 PM
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5. i dunno
hungover?:shrug:
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 01:44 PM
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8. Huh? He said 'remain'.... I'm watching the video from Democracy now today
let me hit rewind... yup, he says remain... rewind again... he still says 'remain'


I guess I'll download the mp3 provided in this thread and watch it... I'm confused...
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 02:00 PM
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9. He says remain in the mp3, he says remain in the video
from Democracy Now... the AP story also says 'remain'... unless my ears are deceiving me, that is correct... I don't understand the comments of the other posters in this thread... could someone please chime in?



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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 02:04 PM
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10. I am hearing "were being" in the mp3
the point in that either the WH or AP have an incorrect quote of the question by Holland. The question is, was this just a simple mistake, or possible intentional and has other motives (discredit the question) ?
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 02:14 PM
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11. Well you and I are hearing two different things. I hear 'remain'
Edited on Wed Jun-08-05 02:16 PM by cestpaspossible
clear as a bell. Are you listening to this mp3: http://news.globalfreepress.com/mp3/DSM/DSM-Bush-Blair.mp3

Is there someone out there besides Sabra who hears him say something other than 'remain'? Please chime in.


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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 02:17 PM
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12. yep, may I ask how old you are (j/k)
let's say it is 'remain', then the official WH/WP transcript is wrong...
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 02:22 PM
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14. What an insulting comment. What does my age have to do with anything?
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 02:30 PM
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15. (j/k) = just kidding
just messing around, my intentions were not meant to insult you. I am sorry if I did.

Maybe it was just transcribed wrong, like you just stated...

But we have to be careful with this kind of stuff....
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 02:35 PM
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17. If I insult you and then say I was 'just kidding' it would be alright?
Edited on Wed Jun-08-05 02:36 PM by cestpaspossible
Saying it wasn't your intention is disingenuous, imho. If you were unaware the comment was insulting, you wouldn't have felt the need to add 'j/k'.

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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 02:21 PM
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13. OK, on the 20th listen, I can hear it.
however, since it sounded like 'remain' to me on the first 19 listens, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that they just transcribed it incorrectly, just as I would have.

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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 02:32 PM
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16. But we should expect more from AP....
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 02:44 PM
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18. Listening through headphones, he did say "were being" but
he said it so quickly "being" sounds almost like one syllable. No pause between "were" and "being", so together they sound like a single 2 syllable word. Also, the w, b, and g aren't very clear so it sounds more like "rrr-ein". I can understand someone hearing "remain".

"'scuse me, while I kiss this guy!"
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 01:37 PM
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6. Because the AP is slanted towards the right! I wrote at least 3
different letters to them (zero responses) on stories and their chosen words over the last 8 months. One was that John Kerry 'claimed' to have been awarded 3 purple hearts.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 01:39 PM
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7. but this a direct quote that they are getting wrong ?
pretty crazy ?!?
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