Was this what DU was like during the primaries, after the Dean "scream" ?

[sabra]

Wasn't a member yet, just wondering...

[derby378]

1. Well, I was a a Deaniac myself...

Still am, actually. But we swallowed our pride and resolved to work with the Kerry campaign and were good sports about it.

[dryan]

2. Media ...

made to much of that. Howard Dean is a great man and has the makings of a great chair. Some of his recent comments have been incindiary, but that is part of his job.

[Norquist Nemesis]

12. And the media is making too much of it again.

Day after day hammering away at it. "They" essentially admitted to being responsible for making 'the scream' an overblown incident. After it was all calmed down again, there were plenty of news and commentaries how they had reviewed their coverage and found it excessive; but it was too late and what was done was done.

You would think they would learn from their 'mistakes'. (Or perhaps they viewed it as a 'success'.)

[underpants]

3. The what? I must have missed the news that day

:eyes:

[Justitia]

4. It was very painful. We were screaming at each other. I hated it. -eom

[Catherine Vincent]

5. No, it was much worse.

I have to confess, I was online at the time when the "Scream" happened. And I partook in giving Dean a hard time about it. I didn't think the msm would go ape shit over it.

[deutsey]

9. Yes. DU was embroiled in trench warfare during the primaries

I think by the time of "The Scream" I was too shell shocked to participate in political discussions here for a while. I could be wrong, I just don't recall discussing much political stuff here after Iowa. Maybe I've blocked it. Not a happy time for me.

[theboss]

6. It was ugly here for a while

I was actually online as the scream speech was taking place and some of us thought it was going to hurt Dean. His supporters thought it was the greatest thing ever.

The primaries in general were ugly. But they are supposed to be.

[SouthernDem2004]

7. I was a Kerry supporter so I thought it was amusing.

The whole thing was blown out of proportion even here. I saw nothing wrong with him getting excited and trying to motivate his supporters. You should hear me at a football game....

[BurtWorm]

8. There was, oddly enough, more division then.

Dean people and a few friends against members of other campaigns who claimed the "scream" and aftermath were the equivalent of dodging a bullet. There seems to be more people now who not only aren't as willing to pile on but are inspired to defend him, including many who weren't fans during the primaries.

[blm]

10. I was as tough as anyone on Dean during the primaries, but would never

fall for the media's characterization of him. I felt the media was building him up throughout the primaries to take out Kerry, and then when they thought they had him as the nominee, they turned against him to tear down the nominee. It was all about manipulating the voters for their masters at the WH.

Iowa proved the media had been overstating Dean's support on the ground for months.

This wasn't Dean's fault or the fault of his supporters. They were as manipulated by press reports as anyone. The blatant lying and exaggeration of the scream just brought it home for them in the rudest way possible. The press was a tsunami of bias against Dean and his supporters that week.

The blame belongs to the liars and exaggerators in the press. It did post Iowa and it does now.

[seaglass]

11. It was worse but it started before the Dean scream. I think

some of what happened during that time hardened people forever. The arguments haven't changed, nor many of the actors.

I came here in 2001 and it felt great that we were all in this together (for the most part - there were a lot of Green-Dem wars).

Once the campaigning started things that I thought I'd never see from my fellow Dems were commonplace (I mean people were actually using Drudge as a credible source - principles went out the window as long as you could tear down your opposition).

So be happy you weren't here then, this is nothing compared to the primaries.