Ohio evangelist:"Homosexuals are anything but happy and anything but fine"

[rainbow4321]

As TX Gov Perry sat in the audience.....

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/061105dntexperrysbase.135e45c34.html


"Homosexuals are anything but happy and anything but fine," said Ohio evangelist Rod Parsley, who called gay sex "a veritable breeding ground of disease" and said lesbians can expect to live only to age 45 in the United States.

Perry spokeswoman Kathy Walt later sought to distance the governor from the white-hot rhetoric at Sunday's bill-signing arranged by the governor. But she also reasserted Mr. Perry's opposition to gay marriage and abortion.

"People know where he stands," said Ms. Walt. "What others who participated in that event chose to say was entirely up to them."

Political analysts say the episode underscores a dilemma for the Republican governor as he seeks re-election next year. Mr. Perry's active pursuit of social conservatives could attract new voters but come at a cost – alienating moderates uncomfortable with the religious right.

[cdb]

1. and how would he know

the state of homosexuals? hmm?

[quaoar]

2. I guess gay veterans from the Iraq war

will be asked to leave Ohio, too.

[FreedomAngel82]

24. These people

so piss me off. :mad:

[Jade Fox]

Right-wing Christians are anything but happy, and anything but fine....

That is why they are attracted to such a warped, simplistic, judgmental
form of "Christianity".

[rainbow4321]

41. Perry: "One myth of our time is that you can't legislate morality"

I soooo hope this guy doesn't even make it thru the repuke primary...then he can go do his morality thing on someone else's dime instead of taxpayers' $$.



http://www.mysanantonio.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D8ALD4QO0.html

Now some wonder whether Rick Perry overplayed his hand last week trying to stick to the playbook used by old friend George W. Bush and political whiz Karl Rove, to mobilize evangelicals in last year's presidential race.

"Gov. Perry and his people are just not as good as Bush and Rove," Southern Methodist University political scientist Cal Jillson said. "Gov. Perry knows the steps, but he's got no rhythm."


"One of the great myths of our time is that you can't legislate morality," the governor told the ministers, according to a transcript provided to The Associated Press by his campaign. "If you can't legislate morality, then you can neither lock criminals up nor let them go free. If you can't legislate morality, you can neither recognize gay marriage nor prohibit it. If you can't legislate morality, you can neither allow for prayer in school nor prevent it," he said. "It is a ridiculous notion to say you can't legislate morality. I say you can't NOT legislate morality."

"We could have signed it in a lot of different locations," Perry said on Fox News. "We could have signed it in a Wal-Mart parking lot, and those who are against people of faith being involved in the electoral process would still have been very much against this bill."

[getmeouttahere]

3. No, Kathy, you don't get to slither away that easily....

I didn't hear her or this so-called governor say anything about not agreeing with what the evangelist said!

[rainbow4321]

23. Church voter drive finds ally in Perry--(looking for "value voters")

He knows better than to open his mouth before the next gov election--wouldn't want to undo his "networking".

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/religion/stories/060305dntexvaluesvoters.10cb147f7.html

Gov. Rick Perry is taking an active role in the development of a network of Christian pastors who seek to register at least 300,000 new "values voters" in Texas and elect candidates who reflect their moral agenda.

Dubbed the "Texas Restoration Project," the network constitutes the most ambitious effort by conservative religious leaders in Texas to mobilize churches, conduct voter-registration drives and turn out voters on Election Day.

About 500 ministers gathered last month in Austin for a closed-door session in which Mr. Perry, top members of his administration and influential religious figures touted the involvement of churches in political affairs. Mr. Perry is expected to attend future gatherings as well.

Organizers, while reluctant to describe their effort in any detail, say the project is nonpartisan and not aimed at helping any specific candidate. Critics say it appears to be part of Mr. Perry's re-election campaign

[FreedomAngel82]

26. Isn't that illegal?

Holding closed door political meetings in church?

[rainbow4321]

38. "Re-electing Rick Perry seems to be religious obligation now"

Yuck..looks like Parsley is going to have his slimey hands in TX next election.



http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/columnists/bud_kennedy/11834144.htm

To prove that his re-election campaign still has a prayer, he'll team up with TV preachers. At an event that was part state-government ceremony and part healing revival, Perry stood coiffure-to-coiffure with one of the darlings of TV-religion Sunday, then signed into law a bill protecting the unborn.

On an all-star lineup of political preachers, Perry shared top billing with Daystar TV personality Rod Parsley, here from Ohio to help organize 500 Texas ministers for the upcoming political campaign.

But the setting and purpose became issues when Perry's campaign and the Tarrant County Republican Party mistakenly announced that the signing would be in the church and invited "pro-family, Christian friends.... We really need for you to help us turn out a very large crowd. We may also film part of this to be used later for TV."

The gym crowd of about 1,000 included about 150 ministers. Many are already aligned with Perry's campaign in a new religious activist network, the Texas Restoration Project. The ministers say they want to restore Texas' "Judeo-Christian heritage." But the project also seems timed to restore Perry to the Governor's Mansion.




And look what state they are modeling it after:

http://www.jregrassroots.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14857&hl=

http://ohiorestorationproject.com/plan.php

[Chovexani]

4. Parsley's a goddamn closet case

My mom watches this assclown all the time on the fundie channels on satellite. Dude pings my gaydar something fierce.

Hey Rod, just 'cause you're self-hating doesn't mean everyone else is...

[rainbow4321]

7. This guy is a scary freak

http://www.family.org/cforum/feature/a0036178.cfm


Q.What do you say to those that believe the Church shouldn't get involved in politics?
A.When we give our lives to Christ, we don't immediately go to heaven. We have to engage the culture. Separation of church and state is in the Soviet Union's constitution, not ours, and I don't think we want to model ourselves after them


Q.Your ministry is based in Ohio. What was that like during the November election, considering that Ohio was the state that tipped the race in President Bush's favor?
A.Ohio is a hotbed. I believe very much in the geographic locating abilities of the Holy Spirit. Everything in my life prepared me for this project, and I feel very privileged to have traveled throughout Ohio with Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, setting up crusade meetings in big churches where more than 50 percent of the congregation were African Americans. As we traveled I saw people literally changed when they were informed. They were no longer intimidated.


Q.What's happening between the left and right today?
A.The right "got it," the left didn't get it. They still don't get it. They are astounded that when they issue a decree, everyone doesn't bow down. We have a mind of our own, and we stand for justice and the culture of life.

[Chovexani]

25. Whose Vote Would Jesus Steal?

Holy shit, I didn't know about him palling around with Blackwell, and I try to keep an eye on these bastards.

It would be heinous enough if it was just any elected official, but this man was in charge of conducting a fair and accurate election and he's running around having crusades with a reich-wing Fristian freak? :wtf:

On edit: That stuff about separation of church and state and the Soviet Union has got to be some kind of fundie talking point, 'cause Pat Robertson's been saying the exact same thing on the 700 Club for years.

Hey, you moneychanging assclowns: separation of church and state is RIGHT THERE IN THE BIBLE. "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and unto the Lord what is the Lord's". If that's not separation of church and state I don't know what is.

It also means you should pay your damn taxes. Bastards. :banghead:

[FreedomAngel82]

28. I remember

once on Malloy not long after the election someone called in and told how people from the Bush camp would give black church's money in return for votes. :mad: They purely are blackmailing these people spiritually and emotionally. It's disgusting. And then they turn around and in private don't give a damn about anything except power and corporation's.
Someone needs to "out" this man. He deserves it for all the hell he's doing!

[Chovexani]

34. The gay issue

They are using GLBT rights, especially gay marriage, as a wedge issue in the black churches and it is starting to work. GLBT blacks are only tolerated in the church if they stick to their appointed niches (the choir director, etc.). There's an undercurrent of homophobia there that Repukes are beginning to exploit successfully. Many fat cat preachers are also selling out their people by taking faith-based initiative funding--largely to maintain their Mammonite lifestyles (the church I grew up in had FOUR freaking offerings per service, not to mention the "Building Fund" and of course the "Love Offering" for the pastor). Shit like that is why I got out of it years ago.

It is up to GLBT people and allies within the black church to speak out and expose this crap for what it is: divide and conquer tactics. Lie with down with dogs and you get up with fleas. At least that's what my country ass grandma always used to say (and I call her that with love, bless her soul).

[FreedomAngel82]

27. Sounds like this guy

should read Jim Wallis book "How the Right Gets it Wrong and the Left Doesn't get it". I haven't read it myself (but am interested) and have heard good reviews. He was on the Daily show earlier this year and did a good interview.

[Arkana]

5. A "veritable breeding ground of disease," eh?

Well, it seems to me that some of those Southern churches where 5-year-old kids are taught to protest gay rights by holding signs that say "God Hates Fags" are breeding grounds for mental disease and decay.

[FreedomAngel82]

29. And of course

they said the exact same things about interracial marriages in the 50's and 60's. Earlier this week someone posted some really great quote's from that. It was the same old bullshit.

[LeftyMom]

40. That's Kansas

and really just one sick extended family.

[bobbieinok]

6. Rod Parsley is very scary..everyone here should watch him a few

minutes on TBN

[Maat]

14. A relative of mine watches him .. much to my dismay.

When the heck is he on? Or should I google it?

[ohio_liberal]

8. Heh

The Pastor and his wife

[tanyev]

22. They have holy auras!

:eyes:

[yewberry]

9. My dyke mom will be happy to learn that

she can expect to pass away 17 years ago.

[FreedomAngel82]

30. *snicker*

So now they're scientists.

[Bluebear]

10. Rod Parsley writes books with suggestive titles! BOYCOTT!

No more Rod books for my pious home!

[Maat]

16. Now THAT was funny.

LOL!

[Chovexani]

35. Juice, meet monitor

:rofl:

[Canadian Socialist]

11. What I don't understand

is the lack of understanding between cause and effect. For example, if I had been told all my life (as I was growing up and impressionable) that something that was intrinsic to me (say, heterosexuality) was wrong and sinful, don't you think that it would have an effect on me as I matured? Of course it would. Ergo, being told (explicitly or implicitly) that homosexuality is "wrong and unnatural" would have an effect on a person's mental health. The sexuality itself is not to blame, the constant demeaning of one's own self is to blame. So, if society accepted and embraced the many colours (so to speak) of human diversity, then a lot of mental pain and suffering could be alleviated.

[FreedomAngel82]

31. I think so too

It's not a big surprise that the US is number one in mental illness eh? Now you know why.

[mtnester]

12. Rodney better be careful, or them photos of him holding a big fattie

will resurface....the same unscrupulous bastards you hung with in high school STILL hate your guts Rodney, you idiot, and they are STILL unscrupulous bastards...and some of them are broke...it is just a matter of time buddy.

Anyone want to hear about the multi million dollar gated home with super duper security he has, and the one right next door he built for his mother, or the way they LOCK the doors during services at his church if they do not get enough money during plate passing? All of this on the backs of people living 10 to a house, moving to Ohio and tithing everything they make to him?

How about the old man on Wright Road you used to terrorize for years bubba?

Rod Parsley is human scum who prays on other people. What kind of Christian is like this? Anyone?

[rainbow4321]

19. Crap..who gives this guy $$$$????

http://www.pfo.org/parsley.htm

LIFESTYLES OF THE RICH AND SHAMELESS

Parsley tells his people they should believe for millions. He makes no apology for being mercenary:

“Parsley is upfront with his congregation about the church’s need for money. ‘I just love to talk about money,’ he told them. ‘I just love to talk about your money. Let me be very clear — I want your money. I deserve it. This church deserves it.’”

Regarding Parsley’s personal holdings, the Columbus Monthly magazine further discloses:
“Parsley, his wife, Joni, and their two young children live in a five-bedroom house they have built next to his parents’ house on a 21-acre compound in northwest Fairfield County. The compound has an electronic gate at the road to discourage uninvited visitors, and stables and a corral have been built in one corner. Rod Parsley’s home is worth $857,090, say records at the Fairfield County recorder’s office. His parents’ home, also new, is valued at $831,480. Each was built with a $200,000 mortgage taken out in 1990. ... Parsley also owns a $500,000 jet, a seven-passenger Hawker Siddeley 125.”

[FreedomAngel82]

36. I bet you anything

that he probably takes some of the money for himself. He's probably like Pat Robertson and a scam artist.

[rainbow4321]

39. And unlike the Dem supporting churchs....

The repuke supporters/churches won't be investigated by the IRS or have their tax exempt status threatened.

[mitchtv]

21. What kind of Christian is like this?

these are what should be known as "so called Christians". Don'r start me.

[FreedomAngel82]

32. Not any I know

They really lock the doors of the church??? My gosh. I've never heard of that happening before! Sad. Sick ass.

[Deja Q]

13. Don't tell that to my friend's 68 year old mother! She's a lesbian.

She won't like to hear she's been dead for 23 years. :eyes:

[FreedomAngel82]

33. Nah

She's a ghost living on our plane who has yet to pass over. Heh heh. These people never cease to amaze me.

[ruggerson]

15. But but but

they used the exact opposite argument on Kerry when he sat listening to Whoopi.

Which is it?

[misanthrope]

17. Come now...

...Does this jackass even merit rebuttal?

[jonnyblitz]

18. come on you guys, we are trying to win these people over

to our side. :eyes: didn't your hear all the DINO's who criticized Dean? geesh. How will we ever win an election if we insult these good christians when you know it's possible to just ignore our base and convince these guys we are just as white and christian as they are? :sarcasm:

[Iris]

20. He's met and questioned every homosexual in the country?

Well, if he thinks lesbians die before age 45, he's missed a few folks I know.

[FreedomAngel82]

37. And if the rumors are true

then it must mean he missed himself too.

[Straight Shooter]

42. Right wing evangelists are anything but happy and anything but fine.

I'm just sayin'

[SalmonChantedEvening]

43. Same exact excuse Bush gave in 2000

When he stood at the podium in South Carolina with the slanderers of McCain. And the SwiftBoatLiars4Troof.

Funny how they always sound the same when defending their complicity with hateful lies.