Do Republicans have some Romantic notion about war because most

[Toots]

have never served or if they did they were never in combat. I think a substantial number of Democrats have served in the military and in actual combat situations. I believe it is because of this service that Democrats are usually so opposed to launching a war. Especially any not done as a last resort. Republicans on the other hand seem to have some Reomantic idea about war as seen through the eyes of John Wayne. They want soo badly to be thought of as a hero but have never and will never do anything heroic. The only thing they really know about war is from watching John Wayne "kick some butt" as an American war Hero. Someone they can idolize. I think we need to bring up their lack of service as often as possible because it definitely reflects on their complete lack of respect for our service men and their deaths. How many funerals has Bush* or Cheney or Rumsfeld attended? Bush* would not even visit the returned flyers from the Chinese spy plane incident.

[cdb]

1. Funerals?

If you mean military funerals from Bush's war-- 0. None. They have attended NO funerals to the best of my knowlege... but they did vist arlington cemetary on memeorial day

[Retired AF Dem]

2. I agree with repugs shirking their duty

But you need to read history when it comes to which party has gotten us into more wars.

[B Calm]

5. I started a list on which political party has gotten us into more wars!

War of 1812 / James Madison / Democratic- REPUBLICAN
Mexican War / James K. Polk / Democrat
Civil War / Abe Lincoln / REPUBLICAN
Spanish-American War / William McKinley / REPUBLICAN
World War I / Woodrow Wilson / Democrat
World War II / Franklin D. Roosevelt / DEMOCRAT
Korean War / Harry Truman / Democrat
Vietnam War / Dwight D. Eisenhower / REPUBLICAN ( first to send troops into harms way)
Gulf War / George Bush / REPUBLICAN
Gulf Wear II / George W. Bush / REPUBLICAN

[yurbud]

7. good quote at the bottom--yours or who said it?

[B Calm]

8. Something my dad always said to me...

[yurbud]

11. Was your dad Will Rogers?

Hillbilly Hitler art:



Blog:

[B Calm]

12. No, but he is 88 years old and still hates republicans! A person

who works for a paycheck and votes for republicans, is equivalent to a deer joining the NRA!

[yurbud]

14. 88 is old enough to remember pre-FDR. We should do commercials with

these guys about the Depression

[Retired AF Dem]

10. The civil war is a little tricky

Yes Abe was Republican but what started the war was the south leaving the union. And which party ran the south? Vietnam also tricky, yes Eisenhower sent some advisor's in, Kennedy wanted to end it and Johnson turned it into a full fledge debacle.
I would also have to include Clinton when it comes to Somalia and the Balkans. No, neither party could ever be called the anti-war party.

[yurbud]

15. didn't Ike end Korea? Problem is, foreign policy has been bipartisan &

pro-business.

I support actually doing what Bush talks about--support democracy.

But not with the barrel of a gun and rigged elections to get the guy who will play ball with our corporations.

[reality based]

3. They want new scenery for the fantasy movies they like to watch

from their recliner with drink and cigarette in hand.

[PurityOfEssence]

4. It's an extension of the "tough love" and "no nonsense" crap

There's nothing more blunt and straightforward than war: it's the concerted effort to kill others and make their people bend to your will. When you have all the answers, you have the right to do so.

That many have never served certainly helps by keeping it all an abstraction, and by having a monarchic view of the world, inferiors should do the dying. Such people commodify life, and there are varying degrees of rights accorded people. Everything is a class system to the true Republicans, and people just need to buck up and face it. Regardless of the protections enjoyed by the rich, there should be no protections accorded anyone; it's feudalism writ large.

[yurbud]

6. Colin Powell fits your model, served and less eager to launch war

Hillbilly Hitler art:



Blog:

[Protagoras]

9. "War is delightful to those who have had no experience of it. "

-Desiderius Erasmus-

The poems of Wilfred Owen http://www.hcu.ox.ac.uk/jtap/warpoems.htm#12

and Siegfried Sassoon pretty much exposed the mentality even during the first world war.

"THE Bishop tells us: 'When the boys come back
'They will not be the same; for they'll have fought
'In a just cause: they lead the last attack
'On Anti-Christ; their comrades' blood has bought
'New right to breed an honourable race,
'They have challenged Death and dared him face to face.'

'We're none of us the same!' the boys reply.
'For George lost both his legs; and Bill's stone blind;
'Poor Jim's shot through the lungs and like to die;
'And Bert's gone syphilitic: you'll not find
'A chap who's served that hasn't found some change.'
And the Bishop said: 'The ways of God are strange!'"

[chaska]

13. Janeane would say it's low emotional intelligence. There's...

a disconnect with reality too. Is it television that makes us able to see without feeling the reality of the situation? War is painless on tv. Reality is something entirely different.

There is something wrong, literally wrong, with these people.