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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:55 PM
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Headsup: STOP H.R. 1316, the "Make Congress More Corrupt" Bill
I've posted info and text on this blatantly crooked bill in GD-P, along with a link to a site that facilitates emailing Representatives to urge them to oppose it. Here's the thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1847357#1847759

Please come and join the discussion. You won't BELIEVE the brazen provisions of this bill - and those are the ones that are obvious even to a non-legislative maven. I'm hoping some mavens take a closer look at this thing, because I have a suspicion that some of the provisions are even worse than they look. It would obviously open the door to all kinds of corrupt politics that is a bit inconvenient now - we need to lay it all out into clear talking points and publicize it.

This is an important one! Do we really want a whole Congress full of little DeLays, free of ethics legal restraints, plus corporations and labor unions putting the squeeze on their people to campaign for the boss's favorite candidates or laws?

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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 01:01 PM
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1. The provision about employers being able to contact you
Any way they want to solicit donations. :scared:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 01:05 PM
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2. Please go to the main thread for the whole thing - and there is a link to
a site that facilitates emailing Reps about this horrible bill.

You absolutely won't believe the provisions. I've put the summary and the text from Thomas at the main thread.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 01:44 PM
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6. Done. n/t
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DeepGreen Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 01:21 PM
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3. Signed ! Thanks
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 01:31 PM
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4. Get a load of the provision where political parties can use non-federal
funds for sample ballots and voter registration.

And the sky's the limit for the money coming in. Please look at the provisions of this bill in the main thread. Like the way Sensenbrenner stormed off in the middle of a bipartisan hearing, these guys clearly thing they can have ANYTHING with no accountability whatsoever. They're not even PRETENDING to support democracy now.

This bill MUST be defeated. No "compromises."
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 01:40 PM
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5. kick - please come to the main thread - this is an IMPORTANT BILL n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 02:20 PM
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7. kick n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 02:40 PM
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8. kick - please come to the main thread and participate
I don't understand why there has been so little interest. This bill, if passed, would have a MAJOR corruptive impact on Congress and the electoral process.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 02:58 PM
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9. kick n/t
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savannahana Donating Member (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 03:12 PM
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10. needs massive attention
thank you again, Hope

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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 03:57 PM
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13. You're certainly welcome. We also need a legislative expert to go over
this thing in DETAIL. It may even be retroactive in places, to get DeLay off the hook - we won't know till it's gone over very, very carefully in comparison to the law for which it would be a major amendment.
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savannahana Donating Member (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 06:41 PM
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23. in agreement 100%, re need for legislative-savvy person...
...& surely there's more than one here among us on DU,
to look over this bill in detail and in context of others
that may have already been passed, or related matters that yet may be pending in committee.

this is where I feel my own deficits of comprehension most keenly,
in legislative matters of nuts & bolts interpretation.

....working on email to my Rep, in midst of a dozen other personal things...

NWHope, here's my sincere apology that these ongoing personal matters
have distracted me from the entire Darfur initiative; please forgive, but know that yours and wesdem's and applegrove's and others' work toward attention and response for Durfur are central to my heart & intentions, & that won't change.

ASAP, I hope to bring back something useful &/or just more light on the Darfur issues ... in the midst of all the rest we're looking at right now.

*Never Give Up*

peace
ana
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:07 PM
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25. Thanks ana, my health has interfered a lot for me. But we do what we
can and keep moving forward. That's all anyone can ask.

If I KNEW a person who was a legislative expert at DU, I'd PM them about this bill, but I don't know to whom I should write. Only that this is very, very important and we need to get the fight OFF THE FRIGGING GROUND.

I still think this bill could be used as convincing evidence for the public of the very corrupt plans of the GOP. I mean, how much more obvious could you get? These changes are NOT intended to enhance democratic representation, despite the typically Orwellian title.
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savannahana Donating Member (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:28 PM
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26. how about posting all you've got in the Legislative forum?
and your posts are always just first-rate as to clarity of info & form of presentation... i don't really know anybody appropriate here either, but i've no doubt this just needs a ton of quick flogging & pushing to attention... i'll check back in here later tonight & check that forum - if you move it forward there, i'll give it all the support i can!

Ben Chandler of KY has got one steamin' email coming first of the week from this fed-up constituent.

thank you so much for your understanding, Hope - with me it's my own health issues, family health issues & trying to support from an intractable distance the main supporting relatives there; and just the mounting $$$-pressures & human-challenges of daily life...

if i get any madder i will blow a gasket, and render meself useless to anybody or anything LOL ... thus, trying to keep a bit of personal balance, but some days that is *not easy* to do. i know you know already.

hang in there, you're not alone, my friend!!
:hug: from ana to hope :hug:

:patriot: NGU :patriot:

:yourock: peace & justice and each & every worker for peace & justice :grouphug:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:37 PM
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27. Thank you, ana. Here's the headsup I posted this AM in the
Legislative Forum:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=308&topic_id=241&mesg_id=241

That looks to be a very sluggish forum, unfortunately. And no responses.
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savannahana Donating Member (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 08:26 PM
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28. well, it's got one response now :-)
so it's the weekend, and with so much going down generally,
maybe people aren't "minding their specialties" too closely at present

we'll just keep on trying to raise the alarm, & find the minds we need!

must "go to ground" again here for a bit, but will catch up with you again asap, Hope - tomorrow, for sure!

why don't we have a "NEVER GIVE UP" smilie, huh???!?

:NGU smilie: :-)

ana
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 10:24 PM
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29. Thanks for your help and your spirit, ana. It's looking like I'm going to
have to repost the whole thing early next week and try again. So few people were interested, and i cannot understand it when this bill is so important. I'll have to try to think of how to present it better.

Thanks again and be well.
:pals:
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PaulaFarrell Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 03:31 PM
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11. kick n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 03:56 PM
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12. kick n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 04:48 PM
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14. kick n/t
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 04:52 PM
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15. Kick!
:kick:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 04:53 PM
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16. They're trying to change the rules again?
Oh brother. *sigh*
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 04:56 PM
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17. You won't believe it - come and see at the main thread:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 05:03 PM
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18. SO INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING!!! This bill is IMPORTANT!
Please come to the main thread and join the discussion, then media-blast and email your reps.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 05:07 PM
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19. You got it
:kick:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 05:20 PM
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20. kick! n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 05:36 PM
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21. kick n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 06:15 PM
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22. kick - still not much attention. Why? n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:04 PM
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24. kick - this is really important people, where are you? n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 11:56 PM
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30. kick - if passed into law, this bill could make the DSM moot. n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:05 AM
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31. done thanks!
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:00 AM
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32. one more kick for the night - then another cool shower and bed. n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:38 AM
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33. kick! n/t
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 05:37 AM
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34. Kick!
:kick:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:15 AM
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35. Thanks for the post! I just signed it.
Edited on Sun Jun-12-05 07:16 AM by in_cog_ni_to
Not that my asshole rep will give a shit. :grr:

:kick:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:45 AM
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36. kick n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 03:30 PM
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37. kick n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 04:33 PM
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38. kick n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:25 PM
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39. kick n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 02:48 AM
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40. kick - will post again on this Tues night
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:58 AM
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41. kick n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 04:17 PM
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42. WAKE UP, PEOPLE!!! No hope of clean, fair elections if this passes!!! n/t
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 07:09 PM
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43. Indeed.
:kick:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 08:12 PM
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44. Kick! n/t (Will repost tomorrow)
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 12:31 AM
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45. kick n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 11:20 PM
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46. Found a lot more info in HR 1316 - can't post tonight, will do tomorrow
:kick:
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 02:14 AM
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47. Kick
:kick:
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