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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 11:17 PM
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Now I understand why shrub took us out of the ICC in May of 2002
...two months before he told the British he was going to war with or without legal reasons

Bush 'unsigns' war crimes treaty

Too bad it took the UK's press to explain it to me.

Where the f**k was my media?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 11:18 PM
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1. Up Bush's butt!
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 11:23 PM
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2. Nothing showing but the soles of some wing-tips.
:rofl:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 11:33 PM
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4. ROTFL
:rofl:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:13 AM
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6. I thought they all wore Justins or Tony Lamas these days.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:17 AM
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9. Nah...them's "gittin' around" shoes,
and who needs "gittin' around" shoes to sit at a desk copying and pasting White House press releases as "news"?
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 11:23 PM
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3. So that's why PNAC and their leaders wanted it....
They wanted to be out of there before the crap hit the fan.....

Impeachment time!!!! :mad: :mad: :banghead:

Illegal wars, religious dictatorships, outstanding insanity and calling it all in the name of moral values.....Theft and deception in the name of MORAL VALUES!!!!! :banghead: :banghead:

:wow:
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 11:42 PM
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5. This is all I needed to read:
A simple three-sentence letter to U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan formally ended U.S. participation in an agreement to create the world's first permanent tribunal to prosecute war crimes, genocide, and other crimes against humanity. In the letter, Undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security, John Bolton, asserted that Washington "does not intend to become a party to the (Rome Statute of the ICC)" and that it "has no legal obligations arising from its signature (to the treaty) on December 31, 2000."

The ICC treaty -- which was signed by President Bill Clinton -- has been signed by almost 140 countries and ratified by 66 and takes formal effect July 1.

Right-wing hawks in the Bush administration have been gunning for the ICC even before the inauguration. The author of the U.N. letter, John Bolton, was perhaps the most outspoken foe of the Rome Statute in Washington even before his appointment to the State Department. As vice president of the neo-conservative American Enterprise Institute and a trusted adviser of Sen. Jesse Helms, Bolton argued that the Court compromises U.S. constitutional guarantees, U.S. sovereignty, and could be used to pursue politically-motivated prosecutions of U.S. troops stationed overseas.

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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:13 AM
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7. Yup, John Bolton. The dude's everywhere in this.
And the neocons want him in the UN.

It's all getting pretty obvious now that someone in Great Britain is playing Deep Throat for the Sunday Times.

Whoever it is, he or she is a hero.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:17 AM
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8. Bolton
forget the UN, how about the Hague?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 05:25 AM
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11. Hmmmm...
such a NICE ring to it... The Hague.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:19 AM
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10. Not to worry!
It would have never gotten a 2/3's majority in the Senate to ratify the treaty. There are many among them who are scared shitless as well!
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 05:31 AM
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12. I was close to den haag recently
and I told myself that maybe....just maybe....I'll get to come back for the trials....It gave me such a wonderful feeling to think along those lines
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:02 AM
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13. Is there a public gallery
at a war crimes trial? If so they should consider moving it to a stadium.
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