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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:08 AM
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"Secret papers show Blair was warned of Iraq chaos" 9/18/2004
earlier articles from the same author as the DMS-2



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=XMHIRTFETCUUTQFIQMGCM5WAVCBQUJVC?xml=/news/2004/09/18/nwar18.xml

Secret papers show Blair was warned of Iraq chaos
By Michael Smith, Defence Correspondent
(Filed: 18/09/2004)

Tony Blair was warned a year before invading Iraq that a stable post-war government would be impossible without keeping large numbers of troops there for "many years", secret government papers reveal.

The documents, seen by The Telegraph, show more clearly than ever the grave reservations expressed by Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, over the consequences of a second Gulf war and how prescient his Foreign Office officials were in predicting the ensuing chaos.

Out of focus: Bush's grudge match war in Iraq

They told the Prime Minister that there was a risk of the Iraqi system "reverting to type" after a war, with a future government acquiring the very weapons of mass destruction that an attack would be designed to remove.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/09/24/wus124.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/09/24/ixhome.html

Ministers were told premier was seen as stooge
By Michael Smith, Defence Correspondent
(Filed: 24/09/2004)

British officials gave warning more than two years ago that Iyad Allawi, the interim Iraqi prime minister, was seen as "a western stooge" who "lacked domestic credibility", secret documents seen by The Telegraph reveal.

The Cabinet Office told ministers a year before the war in Iraq that the external opposition, made up of Mr Allawi's Iraqi National Accord and Ahmad Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress, was "weak, divided and lacks domestic credibility".

Mr Allawi, who was closely aligned with the CIA, and Mr Chalabi, who was initially the choice of many within the administration as Iraqi leader, were regarded by most Iraqis as "western stooges", warned a "Secret UK Eyes Only" options paper.

A coup attempt in 1996 allegedly organised by Mr Allawi, a neurosurgeon who was trained in Britain, in tandem with the CIA ended in "wholesale executions", according to the paper, which was prepared by the Overseas and Defence Secretariat in March 2002.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:14 AM
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1. Allawi was connected to Chalabi? Hahahahahaha!
No fucking wonder he's head of the OIL MINISTRY in Iraq now! My, my my...what a web we weave when we practice to deceive.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:25 AM
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2. lots of this info came (within dsm 1-2 came out in these Sept, 04 articles
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:33 AM
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3. these secret and personal memos were in the news last Sept already




from the first post:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=XMHIRTFETCUUTQFIQMGCM5WAVCBQUJVC?xml=/news/2004/09/18/nwar18.xml

Secret papers show Blair was warned of Iraq chaos
By Michael Smith, Defence Correspondent
(Filed: 18/09/2004)

......The documents further show that the Prime Minister was advised that he would have to "wrong foot" Saddam Hussein into giving the allies an excuse for war, and that British officials believed that President George W Bush merely wanted to complete his father's "unfinished business" in a "grudge match" against Saddam.

But it is the warning of the likely aftermath - more than a year in advance, as Mr Blair was deciding to commit Britain to joining a US-led invasion - that is likely to cause most controversy and embarrassment in both London and Washington.

Mr Straw predicted in March 2002 that post-war Iraq would cause major problems, telling Mr Blair in a letter marked "Secret and personal" that no one had a clear idea of what would happen afterwards. "There seems to be a larger hole in this than anything."

Most of the US assessments argued for regime change as a means of eliminating Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, Mr Straw said.......
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:35 AM
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4. brits knew this long long before we did.
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